Caught in the Apple hype machine (iPhone 6s)

[Tig Bitties]

Still baffles me why anyone would even want the iPhone 6S, when there are AMAZING phones available like the Nexus 6P, Note 5, OnePlus X, etc...

It's iOS is so dated feeling, like still stuck in 2007 cell phone world, and nowhere near what Marshmallow feels to operate.

I guess just different strokes, for different folks.

But for me to come back to an iPhone again, iOS needs a MAJOR overhaul

 

[ackmondual]

10 mighty annoying Apple iPhone 6s / iOS 9 features that need fixing ASAP

Read more at http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-m...-need-fixing-ASAP_id74629#oVCVHKcFbByb7jhJ.99


Number 7 blows my mind.

Again, the way iOS' organizes settings needs so much retooling. I always hated the convoluted main Settings menu, and hated that some apps have their settings within the app, and others have it within the main Settings menu. You'd have to hunt it down. I hear it's getting better, but the inability to change video settings in the actual camera app blows my mind. #10, too, to some extent.

Life is simply easier on an Android...

Interesting list. Some of these are why I switched to Android and happier for it. Others I either don't know of, never heard of, or just don't care about personally.

Amongst those that I care about....
1. Cannot freely arrange icons on desktop
I like how android has an apps section where they reside, and then a "desktop" or "shortcuts" page where you can launch them. Keeps things much less cluttered. For the former, you can reorganize them by any order you want, or have them in alphabetical order. For the latter, being able to set where you want the icons to do is a small, but nice gesture

2. No way to freely drag and drop files to iPhone (you still have to sync via iTunes)
When I was on my IpT3, before I upgraded my dumbphone to a Samsung Galaxy s2, I ended using Documents To Go with the desktop component to create my own file system and folders for images and docs. Needed Wifi to do that, which I had, and which I'll admit had its conveniences over popping in an SD card into an micro SD card reader, or hook up a USB connection. However, Since my gs2, I've done it the "USB way" or the "external card" way. I can specify folders and put stuff anywhere I want

3. No way to fast type numbers and punctuation with the keyboard
I can understand the 4" or less iPhones and IpT. However, I'd figured they'd move to a 5 row keyboard (with the extra line for numbers) with any of the iPads, or the Iph6/s and beyond, as those have much larger screen real estate. It took a while for me to get used to that extra row when I switched to my Galaxy s4, but it's been one of those things that isn't non-trivial things, but still nice to have.

7. No way to easily switch between video recording modes (4K, 1080p, etc)
WOW! This is JUST AWFUL! I was annoyed when going from my Galaxy s2 to gs4 how flash settings now required 2 taps, with the 2nd one being a toggle mechanic. This one has to be the worst amongst the list IMO! TBF, it takes 4 taps in my camera app for my gs4 though, even if I get to do it within the app itself

8. No indication of live photos in gallery
This would bother me if I used live photos. I like how I get to see thumbnails of pics in Windows, and can clearly see which ones are videos

10. You cannot easily choose a Wi-Fi network to connect to from Control Center
I wish it would automatically take you to the wifi settings screen like Android. I've gotten used to this on iOS, but still, I can see it as being an issue, even if there's a solid workaround for it.


I'm not really seeing these as being issues, at least for me anyways....
4. Clearing notifications requires tedious double tapping (and there's no clear ALL button!)
On the contrary, I actually agree with having to double tap. However, I can understand why folks may prefer single tap

5. No screen dimmer apps!
I've gotten used to doing this manually. IIRC, both iOS and And (depending on model and brand of course, but with the Samsung IIRC) used to have auto-brightness settings, but not anymore.

6. Disproportionately small fonts
Never used these settings on either platform. I've heard mixed reactions on iOS citing 35% it works fine, vs. 65% saying it's not enough.

9. Changing wallpapers on iOS is still a ridiculously tedious task
I don't find it to be THAT MUCH more tedious. Then again, I can picture some folks who change it often as their kids grow or whatever. I've stuck it out with just a single one all this time, so go figure whey it wouldn't bug me [shrug]

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I'm still happy in the Apple hype machine another few months on. Having set up an android device for my aunt at Christmas, I am reassured the iPhone is the best phone for me. As long as iOS continues to operate along the path it has gone and the iPhone 7 impresses like the 6 did, I can't see myself considering any other phone in September. The least faff the better for me.

 

[JackieInCo]

Still baffles me why anyone would even want the iPhone 6S, when there are AMAZING phones available like the Nexus 6P, Note 5, OnePlus X, etc...

It's iOS is so dated feeling, like still stuck in 2007 cell phone world, and nowhere near what Marshmallow feels to operate.

I guess just different strokes, for different folks.

But for me to come back to an iPhone again, iOS needs a MAJOR overhaul

Exactly, different strokes for different folks. Try to not let it baffle you too much.

I still use a Note 4 and a Note Edge and was so excited to buy a 6S+ and a 6S in December. To me, nothing beats the experience on what I get in my iPhone. I love the music player over the Google Music app and I love when I buy a song, it gets downloaded to all my other iPhones and Macs. Everything stays in sync with my Mac and Text messages get sent to my Mac while I'm using it so there's little chance I will miss any.

I love my 6S+ and 6S and I have that excited feeling that I had when the iPhone first came out in 2007. I feel that it's come a long way since and it's headed in the right direction.

There are things my Android phones do that I wish my iPhone could do and there are things my iPhone does that I wish my Android phones could do. No one phone does everything and that's why I still use both platforms.

 

[billy the fish]

Yea you're not helping me feel like less of a crazy person for planning to drop $800 on a phone.

I have to keep mentally justifying that it is really a computer and a phone, so in a way it is a good value

It's no way a computer, it hadn't got a file system accessible by the user.. it launches apps, no more no less like a kids fisher price tablet...

 

[MRU]

It's no way a computer, it hadn't got a file system accessible by the user.. it launches apps, no more no less like a kids fisher price tablet...

Please don't become one of those posters who throw out silly tag-line insults to validate a bias, it really isn't clever and there are enough of them on the forum without needing another..

 

[billy the fish]

Please don't become one of those posters who throw out silly tag-line insults to validate a bias, it really isn't clever and there are enough of them on the forum without needing another..

Who or what am I insulting...I wasn't aware you could offend a mobile phone.. what part of my post is incorrect.. all be it more shiny, the iPhone launches apps, that's about it.. there's no computer aspects to it at all.. chill out mam.

 

[MRU]

Who or what am I insulting...I wasn't aware you could offend a mobile phone.. what part of my post is incorrect.. all be it more shiny, the iPhone launches apps, that's about it.. there's no computer aspects to it at all.. chill out mam.

Don't play coy, it insults everyone's intelligence. You know exactly the tone you were using.

And if you want to play that game, you need to learn what a computer is because all modern technology that computes data can be called a computer. User accessible file manager or not, the iPhone and likewise android phones are technically computers.

Likewise 'launching applications' are the cornerstone on any computer - whether it's a home, office, laptop, tablet or mobile. The iPhone may not have a traditional user accessible file manager / system (though most apps which support saving their data externally can save to iCloud Drive which is accessible on any device), however Stock android likewise doesn't come with any file manager nor do Google supply or even produce one. Third party file managers exist and apps are allowed more freedom to save to their own folders - but fundamentally files are meant to be managed more through the application in use.

But this is by the by as it doesn't change the fundamental aspect which is despite your silly assertions - smart phones are computers. A third party file manager or user accessible file system doesn't govern their definition.

 

[JackieInCo]

It's no way a computer, it hadn't got a file system accessible by the user.. it launches apps, no more no less like a kids fisher price tablet...

I bet that not even half of the people using Android phones even know or would even care that they could access a so called file system. All they care about is that they can launch apps, text and make calls. Android phones and iPhones have processors in them that are capable of doing just about anything your Mac can do at home. Both are still limited by what the apps can actually do.

 

[billy the fish]

Don't play coy, it insults everyone's intelligence. You know exactly the tone you were using.

And if you want to play that game, you need to learn what a computer is because all modern technology that computes data can be called a computer. User accessible file manager or not, the iPhone and likewise android phones are technically computers.

Likewise 'launching applications' are the cornerstone on any computer - whether it's a home, office, laptop, tablet or mobile. The iPhone may not have a traditional user accessible file manager / system (though most apps which support saving their data externally can save to iCloud Drive which is accessible on any device), however Stock android likewise doesn't come with any file manager nor do Google supply or even produce one. Third party file managers exist and apps are allowed more freedom to save to their own folders - but fundamentally files are meant to be managed more through the application in use.

But this is by the by as it doesn't change the fundamental aspect which is despite your silly assertions - smart phones are computers. A third party file manager or user accessible file system doesn't govern their definition.

...and breathe....

 

[MRU]

...and breathe....

So we are playing the class clown ... Looks like my request to not turn into "one of those posters" was already too late.

 

[billy the fish]

So we are playing the class clown ... Looks like my request to not turn into "one of those posters" was already too late.

Can I put a request to you sir, firstly don't take this site too seriously, it's just a bit of fun, 2ndly, don't take every criticism of an apple product so personally. . It's all bants. Peace!!!

 

[gotluck]

It's no way a computer, it hadn't got a file system accessible by the user.. it launches apps, no more no less like a kids fisher price tablet...

I jailbreak so it definitely is a computer by any sane definition I can think of

Stock ios is close enough that I would argue it is a computer though. it is just limited in certain ways and those ways don't effect many people meaningfully

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

It's no way a computer, it hadn't got a file system accessible by the user.. it launches apps, no more no less like a kids fisher price tablet...

It is a computer by the very definition of what it does and can do. Having an accessible file system is irrelevant to many people and does not govern whether or not it can be called a computer.

 

[I7guy]

It is a computer by the very definition of what it does and can do. Having an accessible file system is irrelevant to many people and does not govern whether or not it can be called a computer.

The man himself said don't take this site seriously so you have your marching orders. Now what was this thread about? Oh yeah, op didn't like iPhone 6s and it's not a computer.

 

[ackmondual]

I don't know if I can safely say I was caught in both hype machines. However, I'm staying put for now...

Long story short
I'm done with buying new hardware for the time being. One thing I do like about desktop PCs (and game conosles) is you can use them far longer before they show their age... 7 to 10 years!


iOS
When I got my IpT3, I wasn't ready to get a smartphone. It was PDA-like, and more importantly, didn't cost an arm and a leg (contract vs. $650+). It couldn't replace an actual Palm OS PDA that I still use, but it was neat for gaming.

When the IpT4 and IpT5 came out, they were insta-buys! For the former, I had an Amazon gift card to use up. For the latter, I originally told myself I was fine with a 4th gen, but eh... reward yourself for a milestone! A major push for both purchases were the improved screens... Retina, followed by 4" + the same screens iPhones use.

With the IpT6 having the same screen, this was the first time I wasn't interested in buying one right away. I'm aware it's got other good bumps in specs, but to me, a 4.7"+ screen was an absolute requirement (much like how for some folks, they got it b/c it was still only 4"). My IpT5 has reduced battery life going past 2 years. I have to charge it about 2.5x more often than usual, but it's still usable. I'll revisit my options when it does croak, like just to move all my gaming to my Ipad Air, get an IpT6 then, see if there's a cheap Iph6/p, or just retire my foray into handheld iOS.

Android
I already had an IpT3. I felt an Iph would've just been an IpT that I can just use on cellular internet. Plus, I really did want to try out the Android OS, and more importantly, I wanted a phone with something far larger than a 3.5" screen, which iOS didn't have at that time! Samsung Galaxy s2 had some quirks, but for GPS, photos, and one Android only game, it was an excellent choice. I've updated to a Samsung Galaxy s4 years later, and the improvements there continue to exceed my expectations.

It's been running 2 years. I'm not interested in a gs5 since they changed the capacitive menu button into the "list of apps" button. The gs6... they took away the user replaceable battery and memory card slot! When my gs4 runs out of battery, I'm going to buy a new battery and swap that in (thanks to its user replaceable battery ). If it's the phone itself, I'll either buy a replacement gs4, or start looking into other alternatives on Android. At least one advantage with Android is, if one model line doesn't suit you, you can always consider other model lines and manufacturers.

 

[macjunk(ie)]

The man himself said don't take this site seriously so you have your marching orders. Now what was this thread about? Oh yeah, op didn't like iPhone 6s and it's not a computer.

The iPhone is a computer but to me an Android feels more like a computer than the iPhone. I think this is because of what you can do on a iPhone vs what you can on an Android. I can do anything on my "real" computer, my Mac. Similarly, I can do anything on my Note 5. The iPhone, not so much.

This is less because of lack of a file system and more because of Apple's imposed restrictions. Some examples -

chromecast audio: On an Android, you can choose to direct system audio if you do not like the chromecast enabled apps
On iOS: it has to be done within an app.

Call prefixer. In Singapore, there is a need to prefix a dialled number with a code when dialling international numbers. On an Android, this can be done dynamically. On an iPhone, you will need to pollute your address book with two copies of the number - one with the prefix and one without (for times when you are in the country you were calling from Singapore )

Don't get me started on Tasker. That thing makes my phone do "magical" things.

Anyway, billy is right...this is not worth getting agitated over. We are all just a bunch of nerds trying to justify our indulgences in silicon...the chip variety I mean ;-)

 

[Drewski]

Picked up an iPhone 6s plus on launch day. Been playing around with it for the past few days trying to justify the cost, and have come to the conclusion that i just can't do it. It's a lovely phone, don't get me wrong. But it's just not worth what it costs.
Back to my more than acceptable Note 4.
Apple,you almost had me.

Similar story here. I really enjoy my 2011 iMac (despite being a MS person for the previous 25+ years) and the transition to Apple OS was almost instantaneous and complete. I thought the Android to iOS switch would be the same, but it wasn't at all. I returned my 6 at a penalty, since battery life was a high priority.

I got a iPhone 6-64GB because of the hype and for the ease of compatibility with our Macs at home. The trial period lasted all of 2 weeks, after which I returned it to TMo, even with the $50 fee. All the hype, the features (gadgety and otherwise), and even the compatibility with the Macs don't mean much without the battery life especially at that price point. My uses, which I didn't find particularly excessive, required 2 charges per day. Unacceptable for a device that cost as much as it did. Adding a $100 piggyback battery to shore up a fundamental design problem is a poor solution.

I ended up with a $250 brand new LG G2 which beats the 6 hands down in that critical comparison - battery life. It's not the most "advanced" (i.e., has the most gadgets) phone but does everything I think I need with battery to spare.

Honestly if Apple cures itself of the design anorexia and beefs up the battery - substantially - I'd be happy to learn iOS and wall in my garden a bit more with an Apple phone.

 

[gadgetgirl85]

I have both Note 5 and iPhone 6S+. I find the iPhone 6S+ boring as heck but reliable. Note 5 is fun but slow/buggy at times. I really should do a reset of the software to see if that helps....

 

[billy the fish]

I have both Note 5 and iPhone 6S+. I find the iPhone 6S+ boring as heck but reliable. Note 5 is fun but slow/buggy at times. I really should do a reset of the software to see if that helps....

When you say buggy , what exactly do you mean. I've an edge plus which is basically the same phone, and it flies 100% of the time. Sounds like you have a duff one

 

[Zaft]

Still baffles me why anyone would even want the iPhone 6S, when there are AMAZING phones available like the Nexus 6P, Note 5, OnePlus X, etc...

It's iOS is so dated feeling, like still stuck in 2007 cell phone world, and nowhere near what Marshmallow feels to operate.

I guess just different strokes, for different folks.

But for me to come back to an iPhone again, iOS needs a MAJOR overhaul

It comes down to integration really. Having imessage and facetime right there built in and ready to use.
Trying to explain to my parents how to use skype would be tough, they love IOS for its simplicity and ease of use.
I dont need them trying to set something up when all they want to do is see my 2 year old daughter.

Stuck in 2007 is a pretty extreme definition, but im assuming your just putting some sarcasm in there.

I dont really see what android has that much over IOS to make IOS feel so dated to you?

 

[The Game 161]

Still baffles me why anyone would even want the iPhone 6S, when there are AMAZING phones available like the Nexus 6P, Note 5, OnePlus X, etc...

It's iOS is so dated feeling, like still stuck in 2007 cell phone world, and nowhere near what Marshmallow feels to operate.

I guess just different strokes, for different folks.

But for me to come back to an iPhone again, iOS needs a MAJOR overhaul

Quite frankly IOS and the iphone is still a much more dependable phone than on android for me. It is a brand that more often than not people would choose apple over android for alot of these reasons. Everybody is different and has different needs in terms of how they use their tech.

imessage, facetime are big advantages and the way it does sync with every device is certainly now a deal breaker for me. having no lag at all on my iphone is alot different to what I had on my edge. Some get lag and some don't. That however is a big factor for many.

software and updates is a big advantage apple has over samsung for example.

Android have many outstanding phones but If you like buying your phones every year then iphone is the way to go. You will not get anything worthy back for one year old android tech. Thats one issue I found.

 

[MRU]

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Android have many outstanding phones but If you like buying your phones every year then iphone is the way to go. You will not get anything worthy back for one year old android tech. Thats one issue I found.

Yeah resale on Android is pee poor here too. O guess there are just so many Android phones and manufacturers as well as dozens of flagships from each of them that the 'demand' for any particular handset pretty much disintegrates about 8 weeks after launch ....

I lost a lot of money especially on Samsung devices last year ...

 

[Shanghaichica]

It is a computer by the very definition of what it does and can do. Having an accessible file system is irrelevant to many people and does not govern whether or not it can be called a computer.

You could argue that it does have access to a filling system via iCloud Drive.

Anyhow my iPhone can do 95% of the tasks I would use a computer for so I consider it to be a pocket computer. It's my primary device because it's the one that I always have with me and the one that I use the most.

I used android for 2.5 years. High end android phones are very nice and have a lot more functions than the iPhone. However where they fail for me is in reliability, fluidity, software support, after care sales, battery life, integration with other devices, the ecosystem etc.

This is what keeps me with the iPhone. Also most of the these extra functions I don't even use anyway. The iPhone has more than enough.

 

[billy the fish]

You could argue that it does have access to a filling system via iCloud Drive.

Anyhow my iPhone can do 95% of the tasks I would use a computer for so I consider it to be a pocket computer. It's my primary device because it's the one that I always have with me and the one that I use the most.

I used android for 2.5 years. High end android phones are very nice and have a lot more functions than the iPhone. However where they fail for me is in reliability, fluidity, software support, after care sales, battery life, integration with other devices, the ecosystem etc.

This is what keeps me with the iPhone. Also most of the these extra functions I don't even use anyway. The iPhone has more than enough.

95% really.. wow.. cool aid much.. you are obviously still running a commodore 64 Then
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