Caught in the Apple hype machine (iPhone 6s)

[The-Real-Deal82]

All the points on the list are valid but minor annoyances rather than issues. I can't say I've ever been annoyed by any of them.

Number 9 on the list is misleading though. It says to change a wallpaper you have to go through the settings menu. Settings-General-wallpaper. That is one way of doing it but a quicker way is to set them from the gallery. Why it doesn't suggest that is anybody's guess? Not written by a long term iOS user obviously.

 

[gotluck]

the only thing holding me back still is the price, I can deal with everything else. ~$800 after tax for a 64gig 6S is just too much. It's not that I cant afford it, moreso the principle of it. My last two phones were $700 after tax, not sure why another $100 is such a mental hurdle for me, probably because my current phone is just fine and I just really want the 6S because it is awesome.

 

[AustinIllini]

the only thing holding my back still is the price, I can deal with everything else ~$800 after tax for a 64gig 6S is just too much. It's not that I cant afford it, moreso the principle of it. My last two phones were $700 after tax, not sure why another $100 is such a mental hurdle for me, probably because my current phone is just fine and I just really want the 6S just because it is awesome.

When you see what Google offers in a 64 GB Nexus for $550 or less, the $800 for an iPhone is becoming more and more outlandish.

 

[gotluck]

When you see what Google offers in a 64 GB Nexus for $550 or less, the $800 for an iPhone is becoming more and more outlandish.

if only they made a nexus 5premium

Iphone 6S plus (900 for 64gb!) vs Nexus 6P should be a true battle

 

[tbayrgs]

When you see what Google offers in a 64 GB Nexus for $550 or less, the $800 for an iPhone is becoming more and more outlandish.

Yet the difference is a consumer can get an iPhone for $30-35/month vs having to pay the full $550-600 for the 6P upfront. Even if the former is ultimately more expensive, at face value most consumers are going to choose the latter. Google really needs to adopt a program similar to what Apple just launched, or at least a financing plan.

 

[MRU]

Yet the difference is a consumer can get an iPhone for $30-35/month vs having to pay the full $550-600 for the 6P upfront. Even if the former is ultimately more expensive, at face value most consumers are going to choose the latter. Google really needs to adopt a program similar to what Apple just launched, or at least a financing plan.

Yep. The folks buying Apple phones without subsidies are certainly in the minority.

 

[gotluck]

Yet the difference is a consumer can get an iPhone for $30-35/month vs having to pay the full $550-600 for the 6P upfront. Even if the former is ultimately more expensive, at face value most consumers are going to choose the latter. Google really needs to adopt a program similar to what Apple just launched, or at least a financing plan.

I probably would have bit on the apple financing plan for 64gig 6S @ $800 if you werent forced to include $130 apple care.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I would only ever buy an iPhone on contract. I couldn't justify £700 for a phone outright. I don't know anybody in my social group that buys a phone off contract to be honest.

 

[gotluck]

in the US it is cheaper to be on prepaid service (ATT Gophone in my case) and buy your phones outright, thats my perspective at least.

 

[TechGod]

in the US it is cheaper to be on prepaid service (ATT Gophone in my case) and buy your phones outright, thats my perspective at least.

It's like that in every country.

 

[Toltepeceno]

in the US it is cheaper to be on prepaid service (ATT Gophone in my case) and buy your phones outright, thats my perspective at least.

Yep, the same here. Only about 15% buy on plans here as it takes a couple hundred up front and 2 years of up towards 100.00 a month. Far more than buying the phone and paying 10.-20 bucks a month pay as you go. Less difference in the us but you are still paying far more than the phone is worth that way. I will never buy on a plan unless it's t mobile in the us and you pay a fair price.

 

[MRU]

It's like that in every country.

Not true.

In Western Europe contract subsidised flagship phones are vastly more popular / bigger selling than bought off contract.

Generally PAYG devices tend to be low to mid tier devices which can often cost more than the subsidised flagship at least initially.

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Likewise the cost of buying a phone here specifically on subsidised contract often isn't as big buying off in the long term. At €35 per month contract the 64gb iPhone 6S Plus will still cost €599 (as opposed to €979)

The average spend here on PAYG (pay as you go) to get the same units of data, calls & texts as the €35 plan would be around €20-25 regardless. (Indeed most PAYG plans here make you top up by a minimum of €20 otherwise you won't get free unit incentives such as data and would end up spending far greater each month.)


Therefore in the example the contract subsidised phone has the additional cost of €15 per month for 24 months, which is at most €360 over two years.

€599 + €360 = €960 is in the end.

Which actually works out €20 cheaper than buying the phone direct unlocked and carrier unsubsidised. The subsidised phone is cheaper than the unlocked phone direct from Apple.

Now this is applicable here in Ireland and of course the situation will vary country to country, carrier to carrier - but it does clearly show that NO, not all carrier subsidised phones are more expensive.

 

[TechGod]

Not true.

In Western Europe contract subsidised flagship phones are vastly more popular / bigger selling than bought off contract.

Generally PAYG devices tend to be low to mid tier devices which can often cost more than the subsidised flagship at least initially.

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Likewise the cost of buying a phone here specifically on subsidised contract often isn't as big buying off in the long term. At €35 per month contract the 64gb iPhone 6S Plus will still cost €599 (as opposed to €979)

The average spend here on PAYG (pay as you go) to get the same units of data, calls & texts as the €35 plan would be around €20-25 regardless. (Indeed most PAYG plans here make you top up by a minimum of €20 otherwise you won't get free unit incentives such as data and would end up spending far greater each month.)


Therefore in the example the contract subsidised phone has the additional cost of €15 per month for 24 months, which is at most €360 over two years.

€599 + €360 = €960 is in the end.

Which actually works out €20 cheaper than buying the phone direct unlocked and carrier unsubsidised. The subsidised phone is cheaper than the unlocked phone direct from Apple.

Now this is applicable here in Ireland and of course the situation will vary country to country, carrier to carrier - but it does clearly show that NO, not all carrier subsidised phones are more expensive.

Hmmm. That's very interesting and I guess that generalisation wasn't accurate and I was basing it off only three countries so I guess that was a bit foolish.

 

[AppleRobert]

OT but the way the new iPhones perform I cannot wait to check out the IPad Pro and see how the beast rates.

 

[MRU]

OT but the way the new iPhones perform I cannot wait to check out the IPad Pro and see how the beast rates.

yeah I'm ordering a 128gb one as soon as they are available not too long now before they're available

 

[gotluck]

Oh for gods sake the jailbreak was released and now I'm drooling. It will be very hard not to bite the bullet and just do the damn Apple upgrade program. Both Orlando stores have 6s 64gig space grey sim free model available. I am caught in the hype machine

 

[HiDEF]

Oh for gods sake the jailbreak was released and now I'm drooling. It will be very hard not to bite the bullet and just do the damn Apple upgrade program. Both Orlando stores have 6s 64gig space grey sim free model available. I am caught in the hype machine

I'm consider using my JoD and trading the Note 5 for the iPhone 6s.

The Note 5 has been great but I get more value with the iPhone.

 

[FFR]

I'm consider using my JoD and trading the Note 5 for the iPhone 6s.

The Note 5 has been great but I get more value with the iPhone.

Go for the 6s plus

 

[Truefan31]

A jb iPhone is really a great device. Add in 3d touch and extra ram with the beast a9 and developers can get really creative.

 

[Danoc]

iPhones are excellent products but of course going from an Note 4 which is already an high end smartphone is going to be tough.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Yet the difference is a consumer can get an iPhone for $30-35/month vs having to pay the full $550-600 for the 6P upfront. Even if the former is ultimately more expensive, at face value most consumers are going to choose the latter. Google really needs to adopt a program similar to what Apple just launched, or at least a financing plan.

I know a ton of people with iPhone's; Family, friends, coworkers, clients... not one of them paid full price for their iPhone, not one, no way. They are all on some carrier plan using an upgrade to get their new phone. And these are people that could easily afford to pay cash for a new iPhone 6S, but they just think of $800 outright for a new phone is outlandish. Even if you give them the math it's cheaper in the long run, they look at me like I'm crazy, would never buy a phone full price no contract.

So even the cheaper Nexus 6P at $500, they think is crazy to spend that kind of cash on a phone.

 

[gotluck]

Yea you're not helping me feel like less of a crazy person for planning to drop $800 on a phone.

I have to keep mentally justifying that it is really a computer and a phone, so in a way it is a good value

 

[tbayrgs]

Yea you're not helping me feel like less of a crazy person for planning to drop $800 on a phone.

I have to keep mentally justifying that it is really a computer and a phone, so in a way it is a good value

Don't feel bad, I paid for mine upfront...and I bought a 128GB 6S+, w/ Applecare.

I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford it and if the phone isn't passed down to another family member when I upgrade, I sell it, usually for a pretty nice return. The installment plans offered by the carriers and Apple, which are basically 0% financing, are good deals--I just prefer not to be beholden to anyone for my phone.

 

[WarcraftWidow]

Yea you're not helping me feel like less of a crazy person for planning to drop $800 on a phone.

I have to keep mentally justifying that it is really a computer and a phone, so in a way it is a good value

Don't feel bad. I get much more enjoyment out of my phone than I would many other possible uses for $800.

 

[Broadus]

I care, going back to android phone but keeping my ipad and mac. Not worth paying over 900.00 (well over 1000. Here in mexico) and feeling like things are missing.

My reasoning is not going to be the same as everyones. I started with computers in the 80's and have always been a "tweaker". I like messing with the systems, etc. To me android is a "tweaker" system and ios is just a vehicle for apps and games, well plus being a phone. When i had android I always had my phone in hand doing things, with my iphone it's mostly for phone calls. Lanchers, widgets on the home screen, a file system, sdhc card and being able to back the phone up on it. I didn't realize how much i missed it until we got the kids new 3rd gen mogo g's with lolipop. I am just uninspired with the iphone and i miss the android experience. It's not just about apps and phone calls.

On the other hand my ipad is all about games and apps so it's perfect. OSX is not closed down so I like it a lot. Who knows in a few years though, I also like windows 10.

So, again my experience is mine and to me it IS all about the hype to pay more for an iphone. I am waiting for best buy to get the moto x pure 32 in stock again and I will have one forwarded. Believe it or not my iphone is going to a 10 year old niece because nobody else wants it over their android. The wife still has an iphone but she wants to go back also, mostly for itunes and no file system.

I have a great distaste for hype and for buying something that others deem trendy. However, I just replaced my iPhone 4S that I bought in October 2011 with an iPhone 6s. I tried to find something somewhat comparable for less money that would integrate well with my iPad Air and rMBP, but many things require some 3rd party workaround that, from what I've read, don't always work well.

I don't care for tweaking, so that aspect of Android doesn't really appeal to me. When they are released, flagship Samsungs cost about the same if not more than iPhones, so it's not like iPhones are starkly overpriced. Still, if a Moto X Style (though I'd prefer smaller than the Style) could integrate smoothly with my Air and rMBP, I would have bought it. I do have a visceral reaction to paying almost $800 for a 64GB 6s.

the only thing holding me back still is the price, I can deal with everything else. ~$800 after tax for a 64gig 6S is just too much. It's not that I cant afford it, moreso the principle of it. My last two phones were $700 after tax, not sure why another $100 is such a mental hurdle for me, probably because my current phone is just fine and I just really want the 6S because it is awesome.

I know the feeling. I realize that I'm in the minority around here, but I intend to keep my 6s for four years as I did my 4S. Looking at it that way, it costs me some $200 a year, and someone else will eventually use it. Were I to save $250 buying an Android, that would be a savings of less than $65 a year. That difference is worth the seamless integration I get with the 6s.

Yep. The folks buying Apple phones without subsidies are certainly in the minority.

in the US it is cheaper to be on prepaid service (ATT Gophone in my case) and buy your phones outright, thats my perspective at least.

I also use a prepaid service and buy my phone outright. It's less expensive than being on a subsidized plan, but even those plans are being phased out except for current customers of the postpaid carriers that still do subsidizing.

Yea you're not helping me feel like less of a crazy person for planning to drop $800 on a phone.

I have to keep mentally justifying that it is really a computer and a phone, so in a way it is a good value

All the justifying that I can do fails to make me really satisfied about the cost. Still, no one put a gun to my head and forced me to buy the 6s. I just didn't see a better option, given the whole scheme of my setup and usage.