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I found sending photos on the note 5 and Moto x pure more annoying than on the iPhone. When I text photos on android they always get compressed and lose quality. On iMessage the photos don't get compressed retaining quality.

I also prefer to send photos in text message, with my wife so sending emails would be annoying.
This is only true if you send to another iPhone. If people want photos uncompressed you use something like Dropbox or Google Drive and give access to those that want to see the photos (send a link to the folder, so they can see all the photo's, or send a link to just one photo. Ultimately, this saves time and bandwidth). No texting or emailing pf photos required. Apple is trying to get people to do this with iCloud.
 

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How is the iPhone using midrange parts? Please enlighten me.
Comparing iPhones to flagship Android phones:

Android is utilizing 4gb or RAM and able to fully utilize 64bit operations on screens displaying 2k or higher resolution. Flagships on Android have ditched the base 16gb models in favor of a minimum 32gb.

Apple is utilizing 750p and 1080p screens. They only have 2gb of RAM (and only because people have been complaining for 2 years about the constant refreshes due to limited RAM!). And Apple is still trying to get people on to 16gb phones. I should say, Apple is still using old parts on new phones to minimize costs on their end and maximize profits at the expense of customers. Why is Apple selling a phone that cost them $234 to manufacture for over $1000? That is just wrong.
 
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Comparing iPhones to flagship Android phones:

Android is utilizing 4gb or RAM and able to fully utilize 64bit operations on screens displaying 2k or higher resolution. Flagships on Android have ditched the base 16gb models in favor of a minimum 32gb.

Apple is utilizing 750p and 1080p screens. They only have 2gb of RAM (and only because people have been complaining for 2 years about the constant refreshes due to limited RAM!). And Apple is still trying to get people on to 16gb phones. I should say, Apple is still using old parts on new phones to minimize costs on their end and maximize profits at the expense of customers. Why is Apple selling a phone that cost them $234 to manufacture for over $1000? That is just wrong.
It's hilarious how you ignore the most important aspect of the phone. The CPU/GPU combo which DEVASTATES all android phones. Furthermore, screen quality isn't just dictated by resolution. You know this, right? Contrast, viewing angles, efficiency, max brightness etc are WAY more important. The 16GB thing is reasonable but the iPhone does NOT use mid range components. Just please don't spread that garbage.
 
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Who is holding a Igun to your head? Don't like it move on, stop saying you are stuck cause it ain't true.
Yes it is true. I'm not an adult yet, I cannot sell my phone. I do not have a source of income and the phone isn't on a plan per say but rather a deal where it can be paid off over two years interest free. It's NOT a contract but my dad would have to pay the difference left in the account and he doesn't want to. Besides, I'm a teenager. I'm very thankful that I even have a premium smartphone. Don't you dare use a condescending and rude tone if you don't know the other person.
 

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Probably because of a contract upgrade cycle. I could see being stuck in that case, but contracts are not big here. That's why only about 6% have apple products here.
My point is it's a choice not forced, pay it off sell the phone get what makes you happy. Vs whining that i'm forced to endure an inferior product.
 

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Yes it is true. I'm not an adult yet, I cannot sell my phone. I do not have a source of income and the phone isn't on a plan per say but rather a deal where it can be paid off over two years interest free. It's NOT a contract but my dad would have to pay the difference left in the account and he doesn't want to. Besides, I'm a teenager. I'm very thankful that I even have a premium smartphone. Don't you dare use a condescending and rude tone if you don't know the other person.
Grow up it's fun and rewarding. :)
 

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This is only true if you send to another iPhone. If people want photos uncompressed you use something like Dropbox or Google Drive and give access to those that want to see the photos (send a link to the folder, so they can see all the photo's, or send a link to just one photo. Ultimately, this saves time and bandwidth). No texting or emailing pf photos required. Apple is trying to get people to do this with iCloud.

yes, or if you have ios devices, you can just use native imessage again. seamless, fluid.

Comparing iPhones to flagship Android phones:

Android is utilizing 4gb or RAM and able to fully utilize 64bit operations on screens displaying 2k or higher resolution. Flagships on Android have ditched the base 16gb models in favor of a minimum 32gb.

Apple is utilizing 750p and 1080p screens. They only have 2gb of RAM (and only because people have been complaining for 2 years about the constant refreshes due to limited RAM!). And Apple is still trying to get people on to 16gb phones. I should say, Apple is still using old parts on new phones to minimize costs on their end and maximize profits at the expense of customers. Why is Apple selling a phone that cost them $234 to manufacture for over $1000? That is just wrong.

Apple is a business so I imagine they want to be profitable. Price is a reflection of demand so if people are willing to buy it then Apple will sell it at the price they deem right. It's not like Samsung who charged high prices for their s6/note line, then suddenly because of lackluster sales/low demand they slash prices in order to sell them.

The 16 gb is an annoyance for us on this forum but obviously there's millions who are fine with it. I personally get 128 gb but there's plenty of people who aren't power users and 16 gb is fine for them.

The Android phones with 4 gb ram look great on paper, but is the software really optimizing them like it should? Aggressive ram management has hindered its benefits on devices like the s6. I'm sure it'll get better but things like this are an indication of how software can turn high grade specs into a step down experience.

It's hilarious how you ignore the most important aspect of the phone. The CPU/GPU combo which DEVASTATES all android phones. Furthermore, screen quality isn't just dictated by resolution. You know this, right? Contrast, viewing angles, efficiency, max brightness etc are WAY more important. The 16GB thing is reasonable but the iPhone does NOT use mid range components. Just please don't spread that garbage.

yeah it's like people can't give credit to apple for what they did with the 6s/6s plus. The cpu/gpu is right now tops in the industry. It's basically being benchmarked next to a surface pro 3 because it's ahead of other smartphones. I'm sure the future will bring beasts from samsung and qualcomm but it's hard to deny apple outdid expectations with the performance of the A9. And another unexpected advancement is the fast storage. They basically put the macbook controller inside. The speeds are pretty impressive, and according to anandtech ahead of everything else by a wide margin.

I thought i read somewhere too where they benchmarked the 6s plus @1080p against other flagships, even downscaling the resolution to 1080p and it still beat them considerably. Gotta find that link.
 
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yes, or if you have ios devices, you can just use native imessage again. seamless, fluid.
Or anyone can use Google Drive (regardless of platform) and do the same thing. Seamless, fluid.


Apple is a business so I imagine they want to be profitable. Price is a reflection of demand so if people are willing to buy it then Apple will sell it at the price they deem right. It's not like Samsung who charged high prices for their s6/note line, then suddenly because of lackluster sales/low demand they slash prices in order to sell them.

The 16 gb is an annoyance for us on this forum but obviously there's millions who are fine with it. I personally get 128 gb but there's plenty of people who aren't power users and 16 gb is fine for them.

The Android phones with 4 gb ram look great on paper, but is the software really optimizing them like it should? Aggressive ram management has hindered its benefits on devices like the s6. I'm sure it'll get better but things like this are an indication of how software can turn high grade specs into a step down experience.
Not disagreeing with anything you said. Was simply pointing out things and why people give the iPhone the "midrange" hardware label.
 

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I've been on Android for 6+ years, and decided to see what all the fuss was about with the iPhone so I pre-ordered the 6s 64GB. The phone is designed beautifully and feels great in hand. The display, while small, is fantastic.

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  • The homescreen layout is so cluttered with useless apps that Apple even has an "extra" folder by default. Either let us hide/disable apps we don't need, or change the way apps are displayed. Also, why can't I simply organize apps on all other pages alphabetically? I hate how it puts them in by default in order of when they were installed, it's so much easier to find apps on Android when everything can be sorted.
i think this can be done. its in the settings > reset > reset homescreen layout. that kind of puts apps in alphabetical order.

btw, try copying a file to iphone. storage is not accessible. ios puts "files inside app". so if you delete app, precious files are gone too! its a total artificial restriction placed by apple in the name of security. so all that 64gb is only for music/pictures. 16gb space on any droid provides more utility than 64bg on ios.
 
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i think this can be done. its in the settings > reset > reset homescreen layout. that kind of puts apps in alphabetical order.

btw, try copying a file to iphone. storage is not accessible. ios puts "files inside app". so if you delete app, precious files are gone too! its a total artificial restriction placed by apple in the name of security. so all that 64gb is only for music/pictures. 16gb space on any droid provides more utility than 64bg on ios.
That's what iCloud is for and if I lose my device or it gets stolen my files are still there. Anyway the 100s of millions of idevice users all are in the same boat.
 

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That's what iCloud is for and if I lose my device or it gets stolen my files are still there. Anyway the 100s of millions of idevice users all are in the same boat.
Yep.....that is a how a cloud service works. You use your data plan to copy file to the cloud.
But i have 64GB on my 6s plus and 40GB is free space. I wish I could connect to my iMac and copy files to that free space to utilize the storage as I see fit.
Then......just because the herd does something........doesn't mean you have to follow.....
 
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10 mighty annoying Apple iPhone 6s / iOS 9 features that need fixing ASAP

Read more at http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-m...-need-fixing-ASAP_id74629#oVCVHKcFbByb7jhJ.99


Number 7 blows my mind.

Again, the way iOS' organizes settings needs so much retooling. I always hated the convoluted main Settings menu, and hated that some apps have their settings within the app, and others have it within the main Settings menu. You'd have to hunt it down. I hear it's getting better, but the inability to change video settings in the actual camera app blows my mind. #10, too, to some extent.

Life is simply easier on an Android...
 
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I7guy

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10 mighty annoying Apple iPhone 6s / iOS 9 features that need fixing ASAP

Read more at http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-m...-need-fixing-ASAP_id74629#oVCVHKcFbByb7jhJ.99


Number 7 blows my mind.

Again, the way iOS' organizes settings needs so much retooling. I always hated the convoluted main Settings menu, and hated that some apps have their settings within the app, and others have it within the main Settings menu. You'd have to hunt it down. I hear it's getting better, but the inability to change video settings in the actual camera app blows my mind. #10, too, to some extent.

Life is simply easier on an Android...
Couldn't really care about their list although I don't disagree some things should be different. Enjoying, for now, my new 6s.
 

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Just because you don't care does not mean others shouldn't either!
I care, going back to android phone but keeping my ipad and mac. Not worth paying over 900.00 (well over 1000. Here in mexico) and feeling like things are missing.

My reasoning is not going to be the same as everyones. I started with computers in the 80's and have always been a "tweaker". I like messing with the systems, etc. To me android is a "tweaker" system and ios is just a vehicle for apps and games, well plus being a phone. When i had android I always had my phone in hand doing things, with my iphone it's mostly for phone calls. Lanchers, widgets on the home screen, a file system, sdhc card and being able to back the phone up on it. I didn't realize how much i missed it until we got the kids new 3rd gen mogo g's with lolipop. I am just uninspired with the iphone and i miss the android experience. It's not just about apps and phone calls.

On the other hand my ipad is all about games and apps so it's perfect. OSX is not closed down so I like it a lot. Who knows in a few years though, I also like windows 10.

So, again my experience is mine and to me it IS all about the hype to pay more for an iphone. I am waiting for best buy to get the moto x pure 32 in stock again and I will have one forwarded. Believe it or not my iphone is going to a 10 year old niece because nobody else wants it over their android. The wife still has an iphone but she wants to go back also, mostly for itunes and no file system.
 
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tbayrgs

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10 mighty annoying Apple iPhone 6s / iOS 9 features that need fixing ASAP

Read more at http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-m...-need-fixing-ASAP_id74629#oVCVHKcFbByb7jhJ.99


Number 7 blows my mind.

Again, the way iOS' organizes settings needs so much retooling. I always hated the convoluted main Settings menu, and hated that some apps have their settings within the app, and others have it within the main Settings menu. You'd have to hunt it down. I hear it's getting better, but the inability to change video settings in the actual camera app blows my mind. #10, too, to some extent.

Life is simply easier on an Android...

The list ranges from very valid to trivial. Changing camera setting in the Settings app is the biggest flaw in that list for sure and no free floating icon arrangement on the home screen is a long standing criticism as is the no 'clear all' notification option, both which I agree with, but some of the others...seems like the author is being a bit nitpicky.

Changing wallpaper isn't as complicated as he describes (it's not under General settings--his screen shot even shows it, and IIRC, you can't set separate wallpapers for home and lock screen on stock Android), I find font size much better than many experience on Android (especially Samsung, which is often excessively large), and lack of screen dimmer apps? Really? (Never heard a public clamouring for that...ever). Dragging and dropping files is becoming less relevant everyday with the rise of cloud storage--much easier and efficient to keep any shareable files on Dropbox, Google Drive. If I'm out away from my computer and need something from my home Mac/PC, drag and drop isn't going to help. I never plug any of me devices into my Mac, because I can get to everything without needing to. Not saying some use it but the cases where there is no other way to get files moved only via direct link are fewer and fewer.

The keyboard and wifi selection are solved using the hallmark of Android--3rd party apps. There are a number of launchers available for the drop down shade that allow direct access to wifi settings. And don't like the iPhone keyboard, head to the App Store.

Again, there are certainly any number of valid criticisms of iOS but some of these barely register, IMO.
 

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Dragging and dropping files is becoming less relevant everyday with the rise of cloud storage--much easier and efficient to keep any shareable files on Dropbox, Google Drive. If I'm out away from my computer and need something from my home Mac/PC, drag and drop isn't going to help. I never plug any of me devices into my Mac, because I can get to everything without needing to. Not saying some use it but the cases where there is no other way to get files moved only via direct link are fewer and fewer.

I know it's much less of a problem in the first world, but there are probably more of us in the world that do not have access to internet good enough to rely on for cloud storage for normal, daily use. Me for example. My upload speed is .10 Mb and download is typically .80. Using cloud storage for anything other than storage is out of the question, it has to be on the phone and moving things from computer to phone. My speeds are not unique, the only really fast internet here is in the major cities and then only certain sections.

People in the 1st world seem to forget there are a lot of us out here. I do agree with you on a few items on the list though.
 

tbayrgs

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I know it's much less of a problem in the first world, but there are probably more of us in the world that do not have access to internet good enough to rely on for cloud storage for normal, daily use. Me for example. My upload speed is .10 Mb and download is typically .80. Using cloud storage for anything other than storage is out of the question, it has to be on the phone and moving things from computer to phone. My speeds are not unique, the only really fast internet here is in the major cities and then only certain sections.

People in the 1st world seem to forget there are a lot of us out here. I do agree with you on a few items on the list though.

Fair enough..of course, none of the criticisms on the list, or the my suggestions will apply to everyone. I do this many of the criticisms the author outlined are trivial while others probably to apply to the majority of uses.
 
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