Comparing 2 Operating Systems - OS X and Windows 10

[username:]

And Yosemite is only free for existing OS X users owning a recent Mac. Otherwise the price starts at $499

OS X is completely free for every mac user forever. The current OS X runs on macs from 2007 onwards. 8 year old machines are not exactly recent.

 

[dyn]

It's not exactly free. It is only free for existing windows 7 and 8 users, and only for one year.

Not entirely correct. The upgrade is free if you upgrade before 29-7-2016. The upgraded system still stays free after that date. The only difference is that people who want to upgrade after that date will have to pay for it. This also only applies to ordinary consumers. Business users have different licensing and might have to pay. The licensing and pricing still is a complete mess.

 

[campyguy]

Actually, Microsoft plans to update the OS with new features and changes. According to Microsoft, this is their last operating system and they plan to keep Windows 10 and use it indefinitely. Whether that proves to be true or not is another thing entirely, but you have to understand they could and will add features to the OS when they are ready. Windows 10 is never going to be a finished product.

I'd read about what you posted about. My only add to this is I noted a changed in their naming of ISO images over the past couple of weeks - I had been checking out the technical previews and also DLed the initial "official" ISO as part of that program from the insider program early access link provided by MS - the ISO files were named "Windows 10" with other relevant naming text. Last night I DLed the 64-bit Pro ISO for archiving - the file I burned to a DVD was simply named "Windows". I've nothing more to add to this.

 

[businezguy]

I interpreted that as a change of strategy, to one similar to OS X. Rather than making structural changes to Windows every few years, they use the Windows 10 brand as the foundation for future updates. That doesn’t mean that they are filling every update with new features now. Technically, they could still just release service packs, only release them more frequently in bits. Cumulatively, this doesn’t put Windows is a different position than OS X.

Moreover, this isn’t at all different from what Apple is doing and I see no evidence that Microsoft is doing something different or better than Apple. As long as Microsoft hasn’t announced what they are going to do with Windows 10 after the first year, it is not unlikely that there will be some paid upgrades or subscriptions at some point, unless the profits in other product markets are sufficient to cover the costs and fortify the ecosystem. They seem to be ramping up the data collection within the system and I fear that Windows 10 is going the way of Android instead, not OS X or iOS, which is technically monetised almost entirely by advertising revenue.

I didn't say they were going to add new features with "every update", that would be silly. They update Windows 10 sometimes multiple times per day. What I'm saying is that Microsoft plans to update the features of Windows 10 on a more regular basis. I say this simply because Microsoft has said they plan to do so. Hopefully that clarifies things. Since this is the case, Microsoft will be updating the features of their OS more quickly than Apple.

Microsoft may very well be attempting to compete with Google. I've read that before and certainly their terms and conditions tend to infer as much. I think right now Microsoft is keeping their options open. While they may have a direction, it doesn't seem they have everything ironed out. While I find the quality of Windows 10 to be pretty good, I found the release of the OS to be somewhat rushed and with surprisingly little fanfare on the part of Microsoft.

I also found the fact that Microsoft basically closed the Nokia division days before the release of Windows 10 a bit surprising. It's almost like the CEO was sending a message to his employees that the release of Windows was just the beginning of the work they had to do, and not a reason to celebrate.

 

[lagwagon]

I didn't say they were going to add new features with "every update", that would be silly. They update Windows 10 sometimes multiple times per day. What I'm saying is that Microsoft plans to update the features of Windows 10 on a more regular basis. I say this simply because Microsoft has said they plan to do so. Hopefully that clarifies things. Since this is the case, Microsoft will be updating the features of their OS more quickly than Apple.

Microsoft may very well be attempting to compete with Google. I've read that before and certainly their terms and conditions tend to infer as much. I think right now Microsoft is keeping their options open. While they may have a direction, it doesn't seem they have everything ironed out. While I find the quality of Windows 10 to be pretty good, I found the release of the OS to be somewhat rushed and with surprisingly little fanfare on the part of Microsoft.

I also found the fact that Microsoft basically closed the Nokia division days before the release of Windows 10 a bit surprising. It's almost like the CEO was sending a message to his employees that the release of Windows was just the beginning of the work they had to do, and not a reason to celebrate.

How does MS claiming they want to update Windows on a more regular basis mean that it will update features more often than OS X? It means they won't wait years to do major updates like they always have done. Not suddenly major updates every couple months to add features.

 

[Evren Carven]

Windows 10 has better compatibility. I upgrade my Windows 8.1 to 10 without any problem and all my programs run normally. But recently, I encounter a display problem that I cannot set up the resolution to 1680*1050 for my asus 22 inch VW224 monitor.

For OS X El Capitan, I'm running 10.11 Beta (15A234d) now. My most feeling for the new OS is the new font, it looks like beauty really. I have not encountered any problem up to now.

 

[KALLT]

What I'm saying is that Microsoft plans to update the features of Windows 10 on a more regular basis. I say this simply because Microsoft has said they plan to do so. Hopefully that clarifies things. Since this is the case, Microsoft will be updating the features of their OS more quickly than Apple.

Your conclusion is illogical and I already discounted your assumption that Microsoft is updating the system more regularly, because it just doesn’t follow from the sources (that they update the system daily at the moment is not proof that this will continue, they have lots of bugs to fix at the moment). I think you are falling for the marketing pitch. All I see is a wee shift of focus and a major rebranding effort: instead of separate major releases, Microsoft is treating Windows 10 as the only system for the time being and will be updating it instead of preparing a ‘Windows 11’. That has nothing to do with the frequency and magnitude of updates and I don’t see at all what gives Microsoft the edge over OS X in this case. It would be very foolish of Microsoft to push too many updates over a short timespan, that is something not even Apple would dare to do. They will have an ongoing insider program (like Apple, by the way) and will collate improvements into several bigger patches throughout Windows 10’s lifetime.

 

[agaskew]

I flattened my rMBP and ran an internet based restore - Mavericks was the OS it gave me. So much snappier. Shame I had to then bump up to Yosemite just to run the latest MS-Office

 

[businezguy]

How does MS claiming they want to update Windows on a more regular basis mean that it will update features more often than OS X? It means they won't wait years to do major updates like they always have done. Not suddenly major updates every couple months to add features.

Don't know where I said "major updates". Simply updates that include new features whenever they get completed and tested.

 

[businezguy]

Your conclusion is illogical and I already discounted your assumption that Microsoft is updating the system more regularly, because it just doesn’t follow from the sources (that they update the system daily at the moment is not proof that this will continue, they have lots of bugs to fix at the moment). I think you are falling for the marketing pitch. All I see is a wee shift of focus and a major rebranding effort: instead of separate major releases, Microsoft is treating Windows 10 as the only system for the time being and will be updating it instead of preparing a ‘Windows 11’. That has nothing to do with the frequency and magnitude of updates and I don’t see at all what gives Microsoft the edge over OS X in this case. It would be very foolish of Microsoft to push too many updates over a short timespan, that is something not even Apple would dare to do. They will have an ongoing insider program (like Apple, by the way) and will collate improvements into several bigger patches throughout Windows 10’s lifetime.

If you want to claim what Microsoft has said is just a marketing tactic I fell for, that's fine. Let's leave it at that. Have a good day.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/10/windows-10s-very-different-way-of-updating/

Here's an example of an article where somebody else fell for Microsoft's marketing technique.