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Robbosan

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Not weather, but temperature. 31C outside and then going inside to 21C aircon will also do the trick.
I wouldn't be using them outside if it's 31c, our house is cooled at around 24c, 21c would be a icebox lol.
Anyway will find out tomorrow.
 

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After four hours of using them ? Just sitting in front of computer... no exercise or cold weather etc.
 
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kirk.vino

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After four hours of using them ? Just sitting in front of computer... no exercise or cold weather etc.
I’ve been saying this all along: it’s the trapped sweat. The cold/hot temperature has nothing to do with this, as they remain completely dry after an hour or so (at least, in my case).
Most closed-back headphones would experience that too, we just can’t remove their ear pads easily to to take a look at what’s going on inside the cups and on the drivers.
 
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JasonHB

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I’ve been saying this all along: it’s the trapped sweat. The cold/hot temperature has nothing to do with this, as they remain completely dry after an hour or so (at least, in my case).
Most closed-back headphones would experience that too, we just can’t remove their ear pads easily to to take a loot at what’s going on inside the cups and on the drivers.
Ever felt like you’re flogging a dead horse and being ignored?

Jason
 
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SBruv

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I’ve been saying this all along: it’s the trapped sweat. The cold/hot temperature has nothing to do with this, as they remain completely dry after an hour or so (at least, in my case).
Most closed-back headphones would experience that too, we just can’t remove their ear pads easily to to take a look at what’s going on inside the cups and on the drivers.
Why are you so sure it’s sweat? It obviously isn’t, and the fact that yours are dry just means you haven’t been in the right environment to make it happen. And where does your expertise on ‘most’ headphones come from? Total speculation.
 

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Why are you so sure it’s sweat? It obviously isn’t, and the fact that yours are dry just means you haven’t been in the right environment to make it happen. And where does your expertise on ‘most’ headphones come from? Total speculation.
Isn’t the idea that this “issue” will cause problems total speculation at this point?
 

kirk.vino

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Why are you so sure it’s sweat? It obviously isn’t, and the fact that yours are dry just means you haven’t been in the right environment to make it happen. And where does your expertise on ‘most’ headphones come from? Total speculation.
And do you have a pair or do you just comment for the sake of commenting? Adding even more speculation based actually on nothing LOL
Maybe read some other messages from me and others before commenting.
Who said I don’t have that “issue”?
This “condensation” doesn’t appear in the headphones until after 3-4 hours of constant listening sessions.
Clearly, pointing at the sweat being accumulated inside over time.
If it was temperature related, it wouldn’t take that long to happen.
 
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Mikeeee

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I’m not sure why this is only happening with some people and not others. I received my Max yesterday and the first thing I did was wear them for a long time to test comfort and this issue. So I wore them for 8 hours straight yesterday and no condensation. Also wearing them for 6 hours so far today. Again no condensation.
 

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I’m not sure why this is only happening with some people and not others. I received my Max yesterday and the first thing I did was wear them for a long time to test comfort and this issue. So I wore them for 8 hours straight yesterday and no condensation. Also wearing them for 6 hours so far today. Again no condensation.

Because the amount of sweat varies substantially between individuals and further on based on activity and environment in each one. Hair further complicates things, probably much less evaporation with longer hair.
 
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MathersMahmood

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I just wanted to chime in and let you all know I bought a new pair of headphones and wore them all day literally while at my desk.

Took the earcups off and zero sweat or “condensation”.

I think it’s the cold aluminium casing mixed with the material of the APM earcups that causes more heat or sweat or condensation. Whatever you want to call it.

So no. It isn’t an issue that “all” headphones have. And I’ve owned dozens.
 

SBruv

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And do you have a pair or do you just comment for the sake of commenting? Adding even more speculation based actually on nothing LOL
Maybe read some other messages from me and others before commenting.
Who said I don’t have that “issue”?
This “condensation” doesn’t appear in the headphones until after 3-4 hours of constant listening sessions.
Clearly, pointing at the sweat being accumulated inside over time.
If it was temperature related, it wouldn’t take that long to happen.
Yes, I have a pair, and I've had the condensation issue (inside the cups and on the drivers) after about 45 minutes walking in the cold. You, on the other hand, haven't had the condensation issue, despite presenting yourself as an expert on it anyway, so I guess I'm not the one commenting for the sake of it. Er… 'LOL'.
 

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After four hours of using them ? Just sitting in front of computer... no exercise or cold weather etc.
Holy cow, that is a lot and is definitely cause for concern. I have mine on and have had them on for a little over an hour and am going to check them before I leave in about an hour to see if there is any condensation.
 

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I’ve been saying this all along: it’s the trapped sweat. The cold/hot temperature has nothing to do with this, as they remain completely dry after an hour or so (at least, in my case).
Most closed-back headphones would experience that too, we just can’t remove their ear pads easily to to take a look at what’s going on inside the cups and on the drivers.

I don't think its the headphones, its the person. I have worn my H95's for hours and then removed the magnetic cups and there is zero condensation inside them. I picked up another pair of APM and have been wearing them for a while and am going to see if its just the APM that do this.
 
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kirk.vino

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Yes, I have a pair, and I've had the condensation issue (inside the cups and on the drivers) after about 45 minutes walking in the cold. You, on the other hand, haven't had the condensation issue, despite presenting yourself as an expert on it anyway, so I guess I'm not the one commenting for the sake of it. Er… 'LOL'.
It’s still speculative, as condensation related to differences in temperature tends to happen within the first couple of minutes. 45 mins sounds too long for that.
 

SBruv

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It’s still speculative, as condensation related to differences in temperature tends to happen within the first couple of minutes. 45 mins sounds too long for that.
“This “condensation” doesn’t appear in the headphones until after 3-4 hours of constant listening sessions.”

45 minutes isn’t 3-4 hours though, is it, so what’s your insightful explanation now, as someone to whom it hasn’t actually happened at all?
 

kirk.vino

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“This “condensation” doesn’t appear in the headphones until after 3-4 hours of constant listening sessions.”

45 minutes isn’t 3-4 hours though, is it, so what’s your insightful explanation now, as someone to whom it hasn’t actually happened at all?
You clearly don’t read my posts at all. I suggest you re-read them.
3-4 hours is my case and many other people’s on this forum.
Take 10 LOL
My issue is sweat-related and only happens after long listening sessions.
Once again, anything temperature-related tends to cause condensation within the fist couple of minutes, not 45 mins or 3-4 hours.
So you trying to argue that you have this issue related only to the cold temperature outside based on the aluminum casing of the headphone doesn’t hold the ground either. It’s most likely sweat-related as well, 45 mins is too long for basic temperature-related condensation.
 

SBruv

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Once again, anything temperature-related tends to cause condensation within the fist couple of minutes, not 45 mins or 3-4 hours.
The amount of time it takes condensation to form depends entirely on how long it takes for the air temperature to reach the dew point, which in turn depends on the temperature of the earcups and your head. It could take two minutes or 45 minutes. Or two hours. Or whatever. It’s variable, based on ambient temperature, body heat, wind chill, etc.

It’s not sweat, it’s condensation.
 
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