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ActionableMango

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Sep 21, 2010
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Most of all, is this dangerous that the Mac Pro is not performing the fans "full speed check" at boot anymore?

I don't see the danger as long as the fans are working when the GPU is under load.

My 680 doesn't do the "boot time blast". Frankly I take that as an improvement over the 5770, and not as a problem at all.
 

Req75

macrumors newbie
Apr 8, 2009
7
0
France
Actually I was just wondering if the GTX 680 was drawing too much power at boot, causing this no "fans blast" issue, possibly ending to some damage. Sounds like it's not, all fans are indeed working at normal speed after login.

Just got used to this huge startup fans noise after 4 years of Mac Pro use, got worried it suddenly disappeared.

Thank you!
 

jsts

macrumors member
May 20, 2011
41
7
Georgia
I confirm

EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SuperClocked SIGNATURE == 02G-P4-2683-KR ==

Work fine.
 

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jsts

macrumors member
May 20, 2011
41
7
Georgia
Hello everybody,
I get the PCI fan speed issue which has been reported in many threads here, but nobody is mentioning this case (at least didn't find any one who did).

P.S. : I did a NVRAM and SMC reset few times, following Apple site procedure, with no change.

Same issue :( If login and open any image file, PCI-fan comes speed to 2070 rpm, and then decreased to 800. PSU-fan also grows up to 1300, then dropped to 600 rpm. And until next switch off/on a MacPro fans spinning normally.
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
I just bought this card.

Asus GTX680-DC2O-2GD5
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX680DC2O2GD5/

Have not got hold of the mini pcie 6 pins cables though so I have not yet tested it. I'm going for a 6-pin to 6-pin + and 6 to 8-pin to the card.

Any problems you think? I'm going to flash it later on when I get all the needed cables that I've ordered.

Mac Pro 2009 with 5.1 FW and upgraded with a Intel Westmere Xeon W3670 3.2Ghz CPU.
 

xcodeSyn

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Nov 25, 2012
548
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Any problems you think? I'm going to flash it later on when I get all the needed cables that I've ordered.
This is one of the more exotic GTX680 models that could be significantly different from the reference design, especially the triple slot width. I am quite certain that no one on this forum had reported flashing this model before and I'd strongly urge you to save a backup copy of the original ROM before flashing. Please keep us updated on this one.
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
What is different than just the better cooling solution and clock speeds? :)
The triple height is just for the better and larger fans.

The MSI Twin Frozr seems to be kind of the same and that one worked as reported.

It will just end up with the ref. clock speeds.

Well... on the other hand....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFMQ0poFifk

This will be an expensive flash if it goes wrong.
 
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xcodeSyn

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Nov 25, 2012
548
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What is different than just the better cooling solution and clock speeds? :)
The triple height is just for the better and larger fans.
The video you linked mentions a feature called "VGA Hotwire", and that alone would give me a long pause before considering flashing. It's a proprietary feature not in the reference design, and no idea how the ROM was altered just to accommodate this function.
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
Yes, I know. All these features will be lost with the EFI ref. ROM.

The mystery is if the card still will work as a ref. card but with a better cooling system.
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
Question:
Can I "underclock" that Asus card back to ref. clock speeds? Just to be safer with the TDP?

This if I decide not to do the risky EFI flash. :-O
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
Have some issues.

Playable games:
BF Bad Company 2 : many hours on maxed out settings.

Crashing:
BF3
BF4
COD MW2

The settings do not seem to matter if I max them out or not. Freezes and sometimes black screen. Getting 2 kind of errors signs.
Some DirectX error and some that the gf driver stopped working.

Do your ref. 680's play BF3 and BF4 without "issues"?

Will try with a sep. PSU today. Is it just to connect it to the card and then power on, then start the Mac Pro?
 

Gav Mack

macrumors 68020
Jun 15, 2008
2,194
23
Sagittarius A*
Have some issues.

Playable games:
BF Bad Company 2 : many hours on maxed out settings.

Crashing:
BF3
BF4
COD MW2

The settings do not seem to matter if I max them out or not. Freezes and sometimes black screen. Getting 2 kind of errors signs.
Some DirectX error and some that the gf driver stopped working.

Do your ref. 680's play BF3 and BF4 without "issues"?

Will try with a sep. PSU today. Is it just to connect it to the card and then power on, then start the Mac Pro?

I've yet to find a rock solid stable bf4 on anything never mind just a Mac Pro with a 680 unless you turn the settings right down - had black screens on both nvidia and ati cards, most recently an ati at the weekend that ran fine on low yet bombed out and bricked the system totally on medium. Needed a 3/4 hour chkdsk /r to fix the disc corruption after!

It needs a good few months more to get stable before I will even consider playing it on mine or even for the boy. He can stick with black ops 2 for a while longer!
 

ActionableMango

macrumors G3
Sep 21, 2010
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Do your ref. 680's play BF3 and BF4 without "issues"?

BF4, yes. 140+ hours and no crashing issues.

I've yet to find a rock solid stable bf4 on anything never mind just a Mac Pro with a 680 unless you turn the settings right down - had black screens on both nvidia and ati cards, most recently an ati at the weekend that ran fine on low yet bombed out and bricked the system totally on medium. Needed a 3/4 hour chkdsk /r to fix the disc corruption after!

Yikes!

I know this isn't helpful, but it works for me (2010 MP and GTX 680). I did the campaign on Ultra settings and do multi-player on High settings.
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
Sigh. Guess I have to buy another 680 then.
Which ones do work without fan issues and 10 sec delay at startup?

I also tried to run the card with an external PSU today and still BF3 and BF4 crashes on me.

Uniengine benchmarks also runs flawless even with overclocked original rom.

Damn you Dice! :)
 

GP-SE

macrumors 6502
Feb 27, 2013
344
52
Sigh. Guess I have to buy another 680 then.
Which ones do work without fan issues and 10 sec delay at startup?

I also tried to run the card with an external PSU today and still BF3 and BF4 crashes on me.

Uniengine benchmarks also runs flawless even with overclocked original rom.

Damn you Dice! :)

get an EVGA PC model 02G-P4-2680-KR
then flash the MAC EFI ROM, that card is identical hardware wise to the Mac Edition.
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
get an EVGA PC model
then flash the MAC EFI ROM, that card is identical hardware wise to the Mac Edition.

Just ordered a brand new 02G-P4-2680-KR. 3000 SEK! :p
The Asus card I got for only 1900 SEK.

Will report back when I get it. :)
 

Gav Mack

macrumors 68020
Jun 15, 2008
2,194
23
Sagittarius A*
BF4, yes. 140+ hours and no crashing issues.



Yikes!

I know this isn't helpful, but it works for me (2010 MP and GTX 680). I did the campaign on Ultra settings and do multi-player on High settings.

Works for some and bricks others, a lottery cos I've seen it happen to old and new Windows installs and Nvidia and ATI. Monster game with knock-out amazing leading edge graphics when it is working great, but not stable enough for me to risk the brick lottery for my systems in the house despite all having SSD's so the disk check wont take that long!
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
get an EVGA PC model 02G-P4-2680-KR
then flash the MAC EFI ROM, that card is identical hardware wise to the Mac Edition.

Got it today.
Still 10 sec delay before grey screen.
Still fans go crazy on cold start.
:confused::(

Will do some game tests now.
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
Some people have fixed this by putting the card in slot 2.

That actually seems to work! =D No more crazy fans at cold start!

All games also runs fine now! No more freezes and crashes on any game!
BF3, B4, Skyrim etc. all runs fine at ULTRA.


All smooth except the 10 sec delay before grey screen then =)
 

drifter7508

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2008
39
3
Any ideas why the 10 sec delay happens?
Do this happen to all flashed cards?
If not which card, mac pro and output are you using?

I'm using a 2009 mac pro with 5,1 FW.
 

xcodeSyn

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Nov 25, 2012
548
7
Any ideas why the 10 sec delay happens?
Do this happen to all flashed cards?
It's not supposed to have a 10-second delay especially when using the EVGA reference card. Where did you get the Mac ROM? if I were you, I'd download from here and reflash it again.
 
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