Night Shift is their biggest offense. NO reason why that button should be so big.
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Control Center on iOS 10: stupid.
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Lol, that's a good one!It's so that it's easier to find it at night.
I swear I've heard that so many times for the USB-C videos
I think the beta's are more concerned with bugs than design decisions.
turn on auto brightness?
Yeah. Whatever panel you use last is what will come up on your next pull.
It's not exactly random.
It's not exactly random.
There is customisation in Apple phones. And this control panel is the sort of lace it is necessary. You don't understand design so how would you know bad design? Not bashing anyone for lack of insight - just using mine.
Hahahaha! That's so stupid
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That's not true. Apple's feedback application allows testers to provide UI/UX feedback in the form of bug reports.
I agree that their primary goal is to fix bugs but feedback on UI/UX is part of their beta programs.
Problem when this result in media player control panel showing up when you are already in a media app. There is no point in hyping up Apple want to anticipate user needs with Siri etc, and they cant even design a UX that uses the information it already has to properly anticipate my navigation needs.
That might change. Night Shift + Dark Mode + True-Tone will all be able to be activated. Not necessarily in iOS 10. Might change in iOS 10.1 or iOS 11.
And you honestly thing Apple doesn't know that? I mean seriously? Try to get a job in Apple's Design team.. yeah, exactly, you won't get one.
Next you should also explain to Volkswagen how to build a car.
Let me get this straight: you think all of Apple's UX choices have been perfect and needed no change? Yeah, sure.
So all in all, a three-sentence reply. And not a whit of substance in any one of them, from sentence 1-3.
In fact they will have been making choices here, some of them calculations on what might they be able to get away with not addressing substantially. Some of them giving a try at certain things. Once it's past a certain point in a release cycle, they will just launch it, even if doubts remain. This would be one of them things. It's no good. Adding complexity and multi-stage action to what is supposed ti be a simplification tool is just poor. It should never have reached beta stage.
I'd probably make night shift a smaller square button and put it the flashlight maybe then just bring music controls back but it's not killing me this way either.
Trying using control center with Maps which itself has the same sliding gesture so you have to swipe the Maps search bar then swipe control center. Obviously different teams didn't communicate.
I never said that their choices were perfect. Read again.
Because this simple point needs no further explanation. It was a simple question. Do you really believe Apple's Design team doesn't know the simple basics of UI design?
And you clearly don't get the new CC. First off, as someone before already said, CC remembers the last pane. Second the only real difference is that music has an own pane. Third home automation will soon really kick off so it's a very SIMPLE interaction method for the user via the Home pane. Fourth if you really are in the wrong pane it probably takes about 0.5s longer than before but it's still adding the new Home quick interactions which saves you a lot of time.
And wow, I didn't even work at their Design team and still can make sense to it.
So you "paid for the most expensive phone on the market" so YOU could decide how its gonna be designed? Wow should have thought that through a little more. Just sayin
And sure a customized CP would solve all this and folks could put what they needed there. But Apple apparently isn't doing that so either we decide we like iDevices or get something else we like better.
1) The were slow to have an easy access control panel compared to the competition. And no, havent mastered it so far.
2) Funny you talk about 0.5 secs - clearly you havent gotten the point of why this functionality
3) Music does not have own pane. That pane is a media player pane. Used by podcast. and should not show up if you came from a media player. When you have your own OS and your own built in apps, they should work….together. That’s the point of design.
Sorry, but Apple doesnt walk on water. If they release a turd, am going to call it like it is. You can worship the turd if you like. That's a choice.
And again I never said Apple walks on water. I just try to explain to you why it still makes sense and that it's NOT a complex user interaction which takes years to master.
It' way better than Android's CC which you pull from the top and can't be accessed one handed with your thumb (also the reason why increasing the height of CC would be bad @OP).
Ah? So you need a few minutes to realise it's the wrong pane? Poor you.
It's still also for music (and probably most used case).
But it's okay, keep thinking Apple's UI Design team is retarded and makes things up on the fly.
A person doesn't have to know design to recognize bad design. I don't think you've watched Steve talking about design.
Apple iterates, backtracks and or goes back to the drawing board all the time.
-Thin fonts in iOS 7 (even thinner in betas) get gradually thicker
-"Missed notifications" in iOS 7 Notification Center
-the whole notifications and widgets shuffle in 10
-complete reworking of watchOS and tvOS
-shuffling Spotlight search back and forth
-adding and removing Favorite contacts from App switcher
-change of recent apps from left to right to right to left
That doesn't mean Apple lacks good UI designers. But user needs change and even the most wealthy company in the world doesn't know and cannot anticipate user behavior (which is most visible in complete redesign of watchOS 3). It's just not possible. So they make changes and have a lot of missteps. I consider splitting Control Center one of them and I think there will be reshuffling in upcoming updates.
As for Night Shift button - I think for most users, it's set it and forget it, from dusk to dawn, isn't it? Or do people really toggle it manually?
-Thin fonts in iOS 7 (even thinner in betas) get gradually thicker
-"Missed notifications" in iOS 7 Notification Center
-the whole notifications and widgets shuffle in 10
-complete reworking of watchOS and tvOS
-shuffling Spotlight search back and forth
-adding and removing Favorite contacts from App switcher
-change of recent apps from left to right to right to left
That doesn't mean Apple lacks good UI designers. But user needs change and even the most wealthy company in the world doesn't know and cannot anticipate user behavior (which is most visible in complete redesign of watchOS 3). It's just not possible. So they make changes and have a lot of missteps. I consider splitting Control Center one of them and I think there will be reshuffling in upcoming updates.
As for Night Shift button - I think for most users, it's set it and forget it, from dusk to dawn, isn't it? Or do people really toggle it manually?
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I like the new Control Center. In iOS 9 with the advent of Nightshift the panel was becoming too cluttered and had reached or surpassed the amount of controls available to display comfortably. By splitting this up, Apple is reducing clutter and allowing for future additions to Control Center.
I always find this type of argument weird. Yes, they are professional designers, but they are designing for the customer, you know us, even the OP.
I work for a fashion company, I'm a professional person with decades of experience. When we design, we design for our customer. We have to think about wearability, comfort, QA, etc. And even us professionals get it wrong sometimes and the customers tell us. If we don't listen to them, if we think we know better, we continue to fail.
A customer doesn't have to be a designer to know a pair of pants are ill-fitted.
Designers can over-design and over-think. They can be "too close" to the product and lose track of an end user, even in large professional organizations with a bunch of layers of people approving things. It happens all the time.
In this thread, OP, albeit a bit on the ranty side, laid out his legit concerns about the Control Panel. I'm not on beta, but even I can see the visual weird decisions made -- that night shift button, really? I love night shift, use it every night, but I certainly don't need a giant old person's button for it.
Anyways. Looking forward to the new phones and even the new OS. But also looking forward to seeing how the world reacts to both.
Cheers.
You are also free to sell your iPhone and find an OS/phone that is more suited to your desires.
The fretting over such a small thing is ridiculous.
It's a swipe up and at worst a swipe left or right. No puppies have been tortured or drowned. The world is not going to end. That said, if it's that big of an issue for you, there are other options. You should utilize them.
Good friend, this as a beginning point for your comment, does not exactly scream volumes about clear thinking or insight. It's like the worst cliche.
We are talking about what is the design philosophy of a quick control panel. Should we need to swipe several times, in different directions no less, to do a "quick" action? Is that intuitive? Or should it be immediate and singular action - and thus create more value than double tapping the home button and clicking into the card for the app?
Thinking about this carefully is more productive than bad copies of "why dont you move to...."..