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Phones Convert to android and loving it?

lordofthereef said:
Apparently you can send an email and get your money back on the appstore as well, though I have tried thrice with success only once. When you had a refund within 12 hours (or was it 24, I don't remember) that made sense. 15 minutes isn't a whole lot better than nothing at all, unless of course the app is completely unusable immediately (which I am sure does happen). It's pretty tough to judge the quality of an app, especially one designed for productivity, in a piddly 15 minutes. JMO :)
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True....but it is still better than nothing at all. BTW, it used to be 24 hours. I think going from there to 15 min is ridiculous myself. I think we need at least an hour but would love to have a 12 hour window.
 
Vegastouch said:
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True....but it is still better than nothing at all. BTW, it used to be 24 hours. I think going from there to 15 min is ridiculous myself. I think we need at least an hour but would love to have a 12 hour window.
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Frankly I don't like the 15 minutes is better than nothing argument myself. I guess people were abusing the 24 hour range somehow, which is why it was changed. I think an hour would still be too short for some applications, but likely long enough for most. Problem is if you have a fairly large app that takes a few minutes to download and install you are already well into your 15 minute "trial" window. I know this has been the major complaint with some games that are over a gig in size. It is unfeasible for most people to have a game that is thousands of megs in size installed and tested in a matter of 15 minutes.
 
lordofthereef said:
Frankly I don't like the 15 minutes is better than nothing argument myself. I guess people were abusing the 24 hour range somehow, which is why it was changed. I think an hour would still be too short for some applications, but likely long enough for most. Problem is if you have a fairly large app that takes a few minutes to download and install you are already well into your 15 minute "trial" window. I know this has been the major complaint with some games that are over a gig in size. It is unfeasible for most people to have a game that is thousands of megs in size installed and tested in a matter of 15 minutes.
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You dont have to like it but it is true. Also, many games that cost money have a free version you can try first. And if it costs more than you want to pay, you can find it somewhere free to try if you really want to test it.

I agree with you that an hour is really pushing it but im just saying it should AT LEAST be an hour. 15 minutes is really BS ,....but it IS better than nothing. I think 8-12 hours should be the window.
 
Vegastouch said:
You dont have to like it but it is true. Also, many games that cost money have a free version you can try first. And if it costs more than you want to pay, you can find it somewhere free to try if you really want to test it.

I agree with you that an hour is really pushing it but im just saying it should AT LEAST be an hour. 15 minutes is really BS ,....but it IS better than nothing. I think 8-12 hours should be the window.
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Well, if we are going to get picky, I suppose 60 seconds would also be better than nothing. Hell, so would one second. Strictly speaking, something is always better than nothing. Realistically speaking, they aren't doing you any favors.

I think strict rules like this are what lead to piracy in the first place. I have no problem admiring it. I pirate most things before I buy. I had mentioned, I think, that I have been burned too many times. If the app sucks it gets deleted. If it's good, it gets purchased. Of course, if there is a free version, I try that first.
 
mrbutters said:
Its really not fair to blame Android because you chose a sub par device and didn't research the apps you downloaded ahead of time. Thats like blaming Windows because you bought a sub par PC and you also downloaded things that give it a virus. As for battery life, I have a Razr Maxx and it still has 40-50% battery life by the time my 4s needs a charge. Thats with it having a larger display and running on LTE too.
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Makes sense to me! Android is an operating system. Choosing the correct hardware makes the difference. Sort of like buying a windows based PC. Buy a cheap one and too often you get just what you paid for. Android on a great piece of hardware runs beautifully. I currently use a Sammy Galaxy Note and love it.
Waiting to see what Apple brings us this Fall though!
 
I have a spare 64GB 4S that I'll probably flip for an SIII. I feel like I passed judgement on Android without giving it a real chance - so I'll give it a couple weeks. If I like it, I'll hang on to it and sell my other 4S. Most likely can hold me over until the 2012 iPhone is released in Octoberish.
 
nooaah said:
I have a spare 64GB 4S that I'll probably flip for an SIII. I feel like I passed judgement on Android without giving it a real chance - so I'll give it a couple weeks. If I like it, I'll hang on to it and sell my other 4S. Most likely can hold me over until the 2012 iPhone is released in Octoberish.
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We may not see the SIII in the states until Oct either. Took about 4 months for the SII to hit the US after is Euro release.
 
There are rumors that Samsung will make it a worldwide launch to coincide with the Olympics. That would be a first.
 
mrbutters said:
This ones better :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayx4XsBaJBI&feature=relmfu
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I have Android and iOS and I hate to say it, but these sorts of video's are nothing but clickbait. No one in their right mind uses Dropbox for live interaction between two people. You would just text message a grocery list. And not only that, but Dropbox on iOS has several additional links to open files, that he neglected to show.
After I saw his ridiculous app store example, how you have to pay for Angry Birds space for each ios device but not for Android, I turned off the video. He neglects to tell the viewer that Angry Birds Space is not priced by Apple, but by the developer, nor does he explain the reason for it being free on Android.

I like Android, love my SGS2, but I can't stand fanboism like this. I would have enjoyed seeing him use the Samsung Galaxy Tab on Honeycomb. That's an exercise in pure frustration! Can't wait for ICS to come to my Tab!
 
nooaah said:
I have a spare 64GB 4S that I'll probably flip for an SIII. I feel like I passed judgement on Android without giving it a real chance - so I'll give it a couple weeks. If I like it, I'll hang on to it and sell my other 4S. Most likely can hold me over until the 2012 iPhone is released in Octoberish.
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Give it a good month..I made the switch and it took me a few weeks to get used to the Android operating system. But now that i am, i love it.
 
0m3ga said:
I like Android, love my SGS2, but I can't stand fanboism like this. I would have enjoyed seeing him use the Samsung Galaxy Tab on Honeycomb. That's an exercise in pure frustration! Can't wait for ICS to come to my Tab!
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I wouldn't call it fanboism really, a lot of what he shows is true. One thing he didn't show that drives me crazy about iPhone is the dialer. I much prefer Android's smart dialer that starts bringing up contacts as you type. On my iPhone, I had to download a different dialer however, that app won't let me add a number I dial as a contact. I can only call it. I also dislike the fact that if I am looking at a Gmail message on my iPhone and I tap a phone number, the only option I get is to call that person. If I want to text or add them to contacts, I have to copy and paste it, highly annoying. On my Android phone if I tap the number, it takes me into the dialer and I have a choice to call, text or add them as a contact. I could go on but those are two big gripes I have along with some he mentions.
 
kdarling said:
We see the same kind of thing on Apple's own support forums.

Battery, charger, screen, Home button, app issues... you name it. Literally hundreds of thousands of posts about something going wrong.

Nowadays, with tens of millions of smartphone owners, even a tiny percentage of problems adds up to a lot of unhappy people.

Personally, I've had no more unexplainable crashes on my dozen Android devices than I've had on my half dozen iOS devices. The biggest difference is that iOS hides crashes so much better by just popping back to the homescreen without saying a word. Smart!
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I notice 2 major differences.

- The biggest is the crashes on Android very frequently affect the entire OS, either locking up the device or causing it to reboot - and they are very frequent. I have 5 Android devices and 4 iOS devices in the family and I find the Android OS locks up or crashes at least 10 times as often as iOS. I cannot even remember the last time one of our iPhones crashed.
- the second is the customer support. I got an iPhone for my Mom because I know she can get support from an Apple Store tech who knows the device really well. Having tried to get support for an Android device from the Verizon store has always been a disaster. The only things they know to do are install an app killer or replace the phone.
 
mrbutters said:
I wouldn't call it fanboism really, a lot of what he shows is true. One thing he didn't show that drives me crazy about iPhone is the dialer. I much prefer Android's smart dialer that starts bringing up contacts as you type. On my iPhone, I had to download a different dialer however, that app won't let me add a number I dial as a contact. I can only call it. I also dislike the fact that if I am looking at a Gmail message on my iPhone and I tap a phone number, the only option I get is to call that person. If I want to text or add them to contacts, I have to copy and paste it, highly annoying. On my Android phone if I tap the number, it takes me into the dialer and I have a choice to call, text or add them as a contact. I could go on but those are two big gripes I have along with some he mentions.
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It's not what he says that isn't true, he just leaves out a lot of info, to give the impression Android is so much better than iOS. I was actually surprised he didn't have any Force Closures, or he did some editing. the iOS app store is better and updated a lot more frequently with new apps compared to Google Play. iOS doesn't have near as many FC's or screen freezes as my Galaxy Tab has had. And my Tab isn't rooted, it's all stock. I differentiate between the OS's, but I can't quantify that one is better than another.

And I do like the add or text or edit feature for contacts via various apps. I was just using that feature a few minutes ago.
 
I don't buy into any study, or any reviews really.

There are far to many variables with any study (maybe the phone was a dud, maybe that specific version of that app on that device was buddy and an update from the developer corrected it. Apps and devices are only as good as the humans behind them. Nothing is perfect.

You choose the device based on your needs. Experiment with both and come to your own conclusions.
 
I have had many apps crash on both.

The difference is how they handle it. iOS pops right back to the home screen, Android often hangs for a while and requires a reboot or manually killing the task. That being said, Android apps have gotten a lot better from where they were.
 
BiggAW said:
I have had many apps crash on both.

The difference is how they handle it. iOS pops right back to the home screen, Android often hangs for a while and requires a reboot or manually killing the task.
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Not true at all. Most of the time a dialog box pops up and says the app has forced closed and you click ok. Very rarely do you have to reboot the phone because of a crashed app.
 
mrbutters said:
Not true at all. Most of the time a dialog box pops up and says the app has forced closed and you click ok. Very rarely do you have to reboot the phone because of a crashed app.
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I have used android for 2 years and find app crashes frequently lead to the OS either locking up or rebooting the phone. I have experienced this on 5 Moto Droids, DX and DX2s, and 4 HTC Incredibles among 3 family members. The reason for so many phones is that they are very trouble prone and most were replaced at least once. If you don't believe me just check return rates of android phones vs iPhone. Android phones are returned 10x as often.
 
c.hack said:
I have used android for 2 years and find app crashes frequently lead to the OS either locking up or rebooting the phone. I have experienced this on 5 Moto Droids, DX and DX2s, and 4 HTC Incredibles among 3 family members. The reason for so many phones is that they are very trouble prone and most were replaced at least once. If you don't believe me just check return rates of android phones vs iPhone. Android phones are returned 10x as often.
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Funny, because this phone has had less crashes than my iphone has had. And basically it has had NONE. So I really find it hard to believe what you say apple fanboy. And this is from someone that loves Apples products.
 
mrbutters said:
We may not see the SIII in the states until Oct either. Took about 4 months for the SII to hit the US after is Euro release.
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Samsung has stated on previous occations that they would try and shorten the time of US release to prevent the 4 month delay like last time.
 
The list of the reasons why Android is better than iPhone (as of April 2012, anyway) could fill a book.

1. More secure screen lock - pattern lock has 389K combinations, vs 10K for the iPhone

2. LED notification light - I can customize the light color for different notifications and know exactly what is waiting for me without having to turn on the screen.
Missed call/voicemail? Green light.
Text/Facebook message? Blue light.
WhatsApp message? White light.
Low battery? Red light.

3. 4G LTE - 12Mbps up, 10Mbps down, 39ms ping, all day every day.

4. Free wireless tethering

5. Widgets and custom Notification Bar status indicators.

6. Google Navigation

7. Firefox/Chrome-to-Phone - Push a website (to the browser), directions (to Google maps), phone number (to the Dialer), or text (to the clipboard) from my PC instantly to my Android's screen.

8. Ability to change default programs/choose from multiple programs to perform a task
 
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