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Bill Gates said:
True, but it still is more cost-effective to use the existing LCD screen found in the MacBook rather than using another. That's how it was done in the past. It would be nice for them to make a 12" though.

Yeah a 12" would be so sweet. I really wonder how they will squeeze in backlighting for such a small computer though.
 
generik said:
Yeah a 12" would be so sweet. I really wonder how they will squeeze in backlighting for such a small computer though.
It's been done in the past so I think we can give Apple a little credit. ;)
 
why would need a pro speed machine that small, anything you need speed for you also need a big screen, e.g. Video & photo editing

anything you need a small screen for the speed of a macbook would be enough, you dont need a macbook pro...
 
timmillwood said:
why would need a pro speed machine that small, anything you need speed for you also need a big screen, e.g. Video & photo editing

anything you need a small screen for the speed of a macbook would be enough, you dont need a macbook pro...

Think of it as a overglorified mobile hard drive with the ability to plug in to a monitor/keyboard/mouse to start workin' :D
 
I think you'd find it pretty hard to view a LCD without a backlight...
 
timmillwood said:
why would need a pro speed machine that small, anything you need speed for you also need a big screen, e.g. Video & photo editing

anything you need a small screen for the speed of a macbook would be enough, you dont need a macbook pro...

It's for portable issues, you can hook it up to a external monitor. Even if you have a 15", video and photo editing will be a pain to work with.
 
heehee said:
It's for portable issues, you can hook it up to a external monitor. Even if you have a 15", video and photo editing will be a pain to work with.

Not true. 15" is the right size for editors who also want portability. 17" is too big and the 12" is just too small. I've tried it and it's an awful experience. Majority of pros use 15". Either way, they are not meant to replace desktop computers for professional use.
 
theWholeTruth said:
Not true. 15" is the right size for editors who also want portability. 17" is too big and the 12" is just too small. I've tried it and it's an awful experience. Majority of pros use 15". Either way, they are not meant to replace desktop computers for professional use.

It really depends on needs I suppose. I have a friend who works in the press and she swears by her x40.
 
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3223 (4th October) said:
Strong notebook demand causes processor shortage

Notebook makers are scrambling to secure a CPU supply for the Q4 season after an unexpectedly high notebook demand. October is a critical month for notebook makers, where they have to supply enough CPUs for the fourth quarter so they can meet seasonal demand.

The first half of this year saw a weak notebook market, and notebook makers, AMD and Intel took a cautious approach to Q4 as a result. Demand is picking up faster than anticipated, and CPU supply is getting tight. Intel's product shortage includes the Core 2 Duo (Merom) series, the lower-end Core Duo (Yonah) T2050 and T2250, and some models of the Celeron M line.
Yay! So even if Apple does release a C2D MBP we won't have them for another month! :D :(
 
Bring back the modem! And serial port!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zeromus said:
I'm not even that interested in the C2D part of the MacBook Pro update. I just want to see if they update the video card like they did with the iMac C2D's.

As an IT guy, losing serial ports on modern laptops is a MAJOR annoyance. Serial ports are very necessary in configuring routers and switches. Having to drag around a silly USB dongle is annoying.

Add to this that Apple decided to eliminate the MODEM as well!!? ARRRRGH! So now I have to drag around a USB modem and a USB serial adapter. The modem was invaluable for faxing. My wife was quite happy I had my G4 when we were house hunting for faxing documents back and forth. The lack of this is one major reason I haven't considered a MBP upgrade.
 
cepler said:
As an IT guy, losing serial ports on modern laptops is a MAJOR annoyance. Serial ports are very necessary in configuring routers and switches. Having to drag around a silly USB dongle is annoying.

Add to this that Apple decided to eliminate the MODEM as well!!? ARRRRGH! So now I have to drag around a USB modem and a USB serial adapter. The modem was invaluable for faxing. My wife was quite happy I had my G4 when we were house hunting for faxing documents back and forth. The lack of this is one major reason I haven't considered a MBP upgrade.


I agree and disagree... I can't remember the last time I used a modem.... but it does kinda feel weird that they are gone. But that is apple for you. The list goes on about the things they say the consumer doesn't need and the things they say consumers do need...

Question even when faxing can't you use the fax machine and send it via a ethernet cable through the computer? just curious.
 
From this thread about Woz, one of the first things he says I really found ironic, because he's talking about something from almost 21 years ago that applies to this very day:

Wozniak: "Apple has just totally almost become a whole different company. When we only had one product -- a computer, a major computer -- our fortunes would go up and down, stock price would go up and down, and people's emotions and hearts would go up and down."

C2D MBP's maybe? :eek: :rolleyes:
 
cepler said:
As an IT guy, losing serial ports on modern laptops is a MAJOR annoyance. Serial ports are very necessary in configuring routers and switches. Having to drag around a silly USB dongle is annoying.

Add to this that Apple decided to eliminate the MODEM as well!!? ARRRRGH! So now I have to drag around a USB modem and a USB serial adapter. The modem was invaluable for faxing. My wife was quite happy I had my G4 when we were house hunting for faxing documents back and forth. The lack of this is one major reason I haven't considered a MBP upgrade.

Perhaps you should buy a PC for your work. While OSX is nice it is obviously not running on hardware that helps in your work, so why fight with it?

I too had the experience of wondering how to connect to a router via the serial interface cable when my computer had no damned serial port before. Do they even work with USB dongles?
 
generik said:
Perhaps you should buy a PC for your work. While OSX is nice it is obviously not running on hardware that helps in your work, so why fight with it?

I too had the experience of wondering how to connect to a router via the serial interface cable when my computer had no damned serial port before. Do they even work with USB dongles?

USB -> Serial adapters are cheap and not a big deal. True, not as convenient as connecting directly without the adapter, but it's not like it's a major problem. I think what's more annoying is that we're not seeing USB connectors on routers and switches vs. legacy serial ports. Although, I rarely come across a router or managed switch or firewall or anything these days that can't just be configured from an ethernet connection.

Lack of a modem in the new Macs... Is that really a problem? Modem sales are pretty low anymore and for most users it's just pointless having it. I personally won't use dial-up internet, can't stand it... There's free WiFi all over the place anymore at most coffee shops, book stores, etc... Who uses a damn modem? Even my brother who lives out in rural nowhere with no high-speed anything available (other than satellite) can't stand dial-up. But his public library has free WiFi and even gives VPN access/accounts for registered members. Fax functionality? OK, I'll buy that... Now even if that's the case, you're still going to want to carry a phone cord with your notebook and it's easy to leave the USB modem (which is about the same size as one of those little inline DSL filters or a line splitter) connected to one end of the phone cord in your bag. I think people are getting a little too picky. But seriously, modems are no longer integrated because the number of people using them is decreasing rather quickly. Fax capability is probably going to be the #1 reason for still having a modem within the next 2~3 years, if it isn't now. But my fax machine is a Brother 7820N all-in-one unit that cost me less than $250 and makes a great B&W laser printer too. I can use it to send faxes from any computer on my network.

OK, it's real late and I'm tired... So I'm probably grumpy and this reads like something typed by a complete ******. Oh, well... I'm still clicking submit and I'm going to bed. :D
 
AppliedVisual said:
USB -> Serial adapters are cheap and not a big deal. True, not as convenient as connecting directly without the adapter, but it's not like it's a major problem. I think what's more annoying is that we're not seeing USB connectors on routers and switches vs. legacy serial ports. Although, I rarely come across a router or managed switch or firewall or anything these days that can't just be configured from an ethernet connection.

Lack of a modem in the new Macs... Is that really a problem? Modem sales are pretty low anymore and for most users it's just pointless having it. I personally won't use dial-up internet, can't stand it... There's free WiFi all over the place anymore at most coffee shops, book stores, etc... Who uses a damn modem? Even my brother who lives out in rural nowhere with no high-speed anything available (other than satellite) can't stand dial-up. But his public library has free WiFi and even gives VPN access/accounts for registered members. Fax functionality? OK, I'll buy that... Now even if that's the case, you're still going to want to carry a phone cord with your notebook and it's easy to leave the USB modem (which is about the same size as one of those little inline DSL filters or a line splitter) connected to one end of the phone cord in your bag. I think people are getting a little too picky. But seriously, modems are no longer integrated because the number of people using them is decreasing rather quickly. Fax capability is probably going to be the #1 reason for still having a modem within the next 2~3 years, if it isn't now. But my fax machine is a Brother 7820N all-in-one unit that cost me less than $250 and makes a great B&W laser printer too. I can use it to send faxes from any computer on my network.

OK, it's real late and I'm tired... So I'm probably grumpy and this reads like something typed by a complete ******. Oh, well... I'm still clicking submit and I'm going to bed. :D

I think the only place a modem should be included is in the MB. Can't see a reason why someone who can afford a 2000+ MBP cant afford DSL. But as above poster said faxing mskrs a little more sense then modem for internnet acess
 
poppe said:
I think the only place a modem should be included is in the MB. Can't see a reason why someone who can afford a 2000+ MBP cant afford DSL. But as above poster said faxing mskrs a little more sense then modem for internnet acess
just get a usb modem, theres no difference, plus there's places in the U.S. that don't have DSL coverage. Those places have satellite, but that's just too darn expensive IMO. $50 a month + $500+ setup fee, i'd be happy with a usb modem if dsl isn't available in my area. I got pretty lucky that AT&T has service out in the middle of nowhere (where i live).
 
stores are down...

first post...

stores are down.
every one ive checked at least.
what does this mean y'all?
 
howsoonisnow said:
first post...

stores are down.
every one ive checked at least.
what does this mean y'all?

I'm pretty sure stores go down once a week or so. Every week someone picks up on it, and expects something cool to happen. It never does. It's just maintenance.

Hopefully I'm wrong. I'd love to see Merom MBPs, and would really, really like to see Merom MBs, but don't expect them at least until tuesday... Apple releasing something on a weekend? Not likely.

Sorry to burst ya bubble...

EDIT: Hmmm... I've never actually seen an Apple store down. Well, you see something new every day! Come on Merom!!! (Joke)

EDIT 2: Welcome to MacRumours! I must admit, I forgot to mention that it was my first post in my first post, and was rather cut when the guy I was trying to help didn't respond...
Anyway, Welcome to MacRumours! (Don't forget the second "u")

EDIT 3: Hmmm, Apple store has now officially been offline for over an hour, assuming when "howsoonisnow" posted, the Australia store was offline. It says they will be back within the hour. But they aren't. MEROM MBPs!!! (joke)

EDIT 4: Nope, was right. Just maintenance. No Merom MBPs. Store back up now.
 
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