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Rocketman said:
I told you so :)

Rocketman

I hope you are right but I've decided to wait till the last days of my Student discount and get whatever pro portable Apple has at that moment.... otherwise I just cant take the rumor cycle. :)
 
iGary said:
Christ, make it stop.

This is ten times worse than G5 PowerBooks.

No joke. Honestly, I was excited about for about a month about the new revision. Because everyone had built the Merom as the holy grail of processors. And I've never owned a Mac before. And it only made sense to wait if they were about to upgrade the models. But after about a month or so of waiting for it and hearing all the b.s. on here it's gotten insane. And after waiting this long I think I'll just wait a few more months until MWSF to make a laptop purchase.

I'm absolutely tired of hearing:

1. The apple store is down!!!! Merom C2D tuesday!, or wed because it's groundhog day this tues, or maybe a suprise silent refresh on Friday
2. OMG the shipping times just changed from X days to X days. Merom MBP's!
3. student discounts they end on the xth day in Scandinavia I bet they're waiting until then and then MEROM MBP'S!!!!
4. I couldn't wait any longer, i broke down and ordered my 15" MBP, they're sure to release the Merom now. How long do I have to return it if it's released?
5. my schoolwork is starting to suffer, i'm having to take notes with a pen and paper if they don't release the Merom MBP soon...
6. Omg Apple and Steve Jobs why are you jerking us around?, we want merom MBP's!!
7. Blu-ray. Any talk of this is just dumb. The forwat war between that and HD-DVD hasn't been decided and it's way to early for this.

I don't understand all the hostility and complete lack of patience. Well i understand the lack of patience part a little, I'm really eager to get my first Mac. But, Apple never promised anyone anything and this is just all rumor. The Photokina rumor was dumb and should go down in rumor history as one of the worst. Also the next big rumor is "Full refresh by the holidays". And it's still a ways off and people talk as if they have expected it to come every tues since photokina. At least wait until Thanksgiving to get hostile. It's looking more and more like MWSF at the earliest for me to get anything. In the meantime I'll read a book, get a Wii and enjoy it and the new Zelda, go outside and breathe some fresh air and save more money(for more accessories or a step up from the macbook i originally had in mind) and then see what if any revisions are made and weigh them against what Steve unviels at MWSF.
 
uNext said:
flock a merom bring on santa rosa PROVEN to be the real upgrade
merom is just a windows me but hardware based get your facts straight people.

Wow. I have no idea what that sentence means. Congratulations on your excellent use of punctuation.
 
AppliedVisual said:
you're still going to want to carry a phone cord with your notebook and it's easy to leave the USB modem (which is about the same size as one of those little inline DSL filters or a line splitter) connected to one end of the phone cord in your bag.

Fax capability is probably going to be the #1 reason for still having a modem within the next 2~3 years, if it isn't now.

Where is there a FREE IP to Fax service? Outgoing calls to fax machines are either free now or VERY low cost to the degree one could pay $24.95 per YEAR for this and the service provider would RAKE IN CASH.

Incoming faxes could have a recipient recognition feature.

Rocketman
 
Rocketman said:
Addresses more memory. >2GB.

Don't count on it... :mad:

Current Core Duo Yonah MBPs are the same as any other 32bit system in that they can only address 4GB total within a system. After you subtract out address space for video memory and all the hardware I/O addresses and resources, you're left with about 3.2GB of free address space for RAM.

With the Merom Core 2 Duo CPU, it has a 40bit memory addressing capability. However, unless Apple and Intel have come up with a new supporting chipset to replace the current i945 series for the C2D update, we'll still be stuck with the same 3.2GB limit and Apple will probably only sell the systems with up to 2GB RAM. Or possibly they will offer them with a mismatched 1GB + 2GB module for 3GB total like they do with the C2D iMac systems. But don't count on true 4GB support until we see a major MBP redesign. The upcoming Santa Rosa platform spec will be based around a new Intel mobile chipset that will have capabilites to address more memory and we will see the ability to install *and actually use* 4GB or more.

Now we can all continue to speculate over why there's been such a long delay on the MBP Merom update. Hopefully we'll get the ability to install and use 4GB. I could really use that... But I'm guessing we won't see that until sometime next year.
 
Rocketman said:
Where is there a FREE IP to Fax service? Outgoing calls to fax machines are either free now or VERY low cost to the degree one could pay $24.95 per YEAR for this and the service provider would RAKE IN CASH.

Incoming faxes could have a recipient recognition feature.

Rocketman

I don't know of a free one, but I know of several providers that offer a dedicated fax number that dumps all incoming faxes to an email address and faxes can be sent by emailing standard file types like JPEG, TIFF, PDF, EPS and Word documents to the proper email address. A few come to mind at about $5 month when added to existing phone service packages or about $20 per month on their own.

FWIW, I forgot to mention it in my last disgruntled post (rant) about modems... It makes more sense to use a cell phone as a modem these days as most cell providers offer web service on top of your normal service plan for about $5/month (that's what Verizon charges) and some even include it as part of the plan. On most CDMA or GSM networks, you can get 140 to 300 Kbps or about 4 to 8 X as fast as a conventional modem and the convenience of being able to use it wherever you have cell service and you don't have to hunt down a Starbucks <like that's tough> to get free net access. I've used my Verizon phone off and on when I travel and it works great for this. Most areas I get about 144Kbps, but when I'm in one of their "Broadband" areas, I get downloads that approach T1 speed at about 1.5Mbps.

So, the only real advantage or use (IMNSHO) for a modem these days is for fax capability. But even that's a stretch... It's true there's lots of places that internet service in the form of DSL, Cable, etc.. is not available. But It's rare that Satellite is the only option giving cellular alternatives or fixed point wireless or shared DS1/T1 options. Full T1/DS1 these days is about $385 in most places anymore. Set one up and share with 10 of your neighbors (even if they're each 1000 yards away) wirelessly and you're all into it for less than $50/month. ...I've seen that done a bunch too and have helped set up a few such arrangements.
 
generik said:
Well... 36 more hours to go :mad:

And then we can be disappointed again as we wait another 168 hours to find out again. :rolleyes:

...Could be Wednesday this week too, Columbus Day on Monday ya, know... So could be
 
AppliedVisual said:
I don't know of a free one, but I know of several providers that offer a dedicated fax number that dumps all incoming faxes to an email address and faxes can be sent by emailing standard file types like JPEG, TIFF, PDF, EPS and Word documents to the proper email address. A few come to mind at about $5 month when added to existing phone service packages or about $20 per month on their own.

FWIW, I forgot to mention it in my last disgruntled post (rant) about modems... It makes more sense to use a cell phone as a modem these days as most cell providers offer web service on top of your normal service plan for about $5/month (that's what Verizon charges) and some even include it as part of the plan. On most CDMA or GSM networks, you can get 140 to 300 Kbps or about 4 to 8 X as fast as a conventional modem and the convenience of being able to use it wherever you have cell service and you don't have to hunt down a Starbucks <like that's tough> to get free net access. I've used my Verizon phone off and on when I travel and it works great for this. Most areas I get about 144Kbps, but when I'm in one of their "Broadband" areas, I get downloads that approach T1 speed at about 1.5Mbps.

So, the only real advantage or use (IMNSHO) for a modem these days is for fax capability. But even that's a stretch... It's true there's lots of places that internet service in the form of DSL, Cable, etc.. is not available. But It's rare that Satellite is the only option giving cellular alternatives or fixed point wireless or shared DS1/T1 options. Full T1/DS1 these days is about $385 in most places anymore. Set one up and share with 10 of your neighbors (even if they're each 1000 yards away) wirelessly and you're all into it for less than $50/month. ...I've seen that done a bunch too and have helped set up a few such arrangements.

I don't think I'd use a free fax service anyway. I remember looking into something like this a little while ago, and there were companies offering this, but the tradeoff was that your faxes included ads, etc. Just not worth it, unless you only send faxes to people where you don't care if they have ads on them.
 
I'm less interested in clock speed an more interested in getting a 160GB hard drive in a MacBook Pro, or larger. I think OWC has 160GB aftermarket drives now, hopefully Apple will follow suit shortly. I really want to upgrade my PB 1.5Ghz to the top-of-the-line 17" MCP when it's out, but not if I have to upgrade the storage with an aftermarket solution. I need my warranty intact!
 
jmelrose said:
I'm less interested in clock speed an more interested in getting a 160GB hard drive in a MacBook Pro, or larger. I think OWC has 160GB aftermarket drives now, hopefully Apple will follow suit shortly. I really want to upgrade my PB 1.5Ghz to the top-of-the-line 17" MCP when it's out, but not if I have to upgrade the storage with an aftermarket solution. I need my warranty intact!
Doesnt the Seagate 160gb HD fit into the MBP? Ive heard its the best replacement as of date.
 
That's true, but also note that i don't want to void my warranty right out of the box by swapping out the hard drive.

How hard are those upgrades anyway for a MCP? It was a sizeable undertaking with my PB G4.

Anyway, I have a 120GB in the PB, which was an aftermarket install. I'd like to get a 160GB with the next one and I should be comfy for at least a while.

Orlando area here too, Next Tues. Hi neighbor!
 
jmelrose said:
That's true, but also note that i don't want to void my warranty right out of the box by swapping out the hard drive.

How hard are those upgrades anyway for a MCP? It was a sizeable undertaking with my PB G4.

Anyway, I have a 120GB in the PB, which was an aftermarket install. I'd like to get a 160GB with the next one and I should be comfy for at least a while.

Orlando area here too, Next Tues. Hi neighbor!
Hey neighbor, bring ur mac over so i can play with it until i get mine. Thanks so much. lol
 
AppliedVisual said:
And then we can be disappointed again as we wait another 168 hours to find out again. :rolleyes:

...Could be Wednesday this week too, Columbus Day on Monday ya, know... So could be

Well there are only so many 168 hours... :rolleyes:
 
i hope also that apple offers the 160 gb hard drive option also.

and the ability for better graphics chip than current model.

want option for best chip on market. not some penny pincher model which is less expensive for apple
 
generik said:
People are all tired of waiting

Or, like me, give up waiting and bought a beatiful MBP CD!!!! expected october 29th,

but, what if it come with Merom? jajajaja, anyway, a ipod nano 2gb for 14€(20 USD) worth the decition!:rolleyes:
 
macman2790 said:
okay just wondering. Why are there 2 threads on the same exact thing. Plus this is a page 2 rumor. why don't we all stay on one thread? https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2924721#post2924721

Heck you are asking to much... I just came from the Photokina one now we are talking moving again... Man oh man... j/k.

Anyways I think this thread needs a poll to add some interest.

One like:

Merom Redesign - 10/10
- 10/17
- 10/24
- 10/31
- Etc.
For choices.

Along with:

Merom No new design - 10/10
- 10/17
- 10/24
- 10/31
- Etc.

I think it'd be fun to see what everyone is thinking though probably is just me again...

Oh and a choice of:

Merom? Who gives a F... about merom anymore
 
iñaki'sonMac'87 said:
Or, like me, give up waiting and bought a beatiful MBP CD!!!! expected october 29th

Don't mean to stir the pot, but is that not a hell of a long time?
 
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