They built a fairly innovative chassis that can do exactly that. And there are users who need a lot of performance. Apple hardware will still be able to do substantially more work at the same power draw than the other hardware, so you argument hardly applies here.
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Could we see M3 before A17?
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They built a fairly innovative chassis that can do exactly that. And there are users who need a lot of performance. Apple hardware will still be able to do substantially more work at the same power draw than the other hardware, so you argument hardly applies here.
You're right. It seems like this forum is just rehashing Mac Pro SoC, 8GB or 16GB, and why can't Apple give us 512GB SSD standard.
That's why I try to make threads about different topics that are a bit more interesting.
Production of 15-Inch MacBook Air Components Underway, WWDC Launch Looking Likely
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Do people really think Apple will use a one-year-old SoC to introduce arguably their most important Mac?
yes, because this time will praise the battery life on this 15" M2 AirProduction of 15-Inch MacBook Air Components Underway, WWDC Launch Looking Likely
Panel production on the larger-screened 15-inch MacBook Air started in February and increased in March, with another ramp up planned for April,...
Do people really think Apple will use a one-year-old SoC to introduce arguably their most important Mac?
I hope im wrong, maybe this 15" Air that can support M2 Pro depends on the thermals and how thin and light Apple wants this to be
If you put an M2 Pro in an Air, it'll just throttle to behave like a normal M2, but less efficient.
Maybe multithread performance might gain a tiny bit or GPU performance might gain a tiny bit. It'll quickly get throttled so that the difference won't be worth it.
People need to stop thinking that a fanless design can support the Pro SoC.
again, like i said, it depends how light and thick they want to do it...2 fans like the 24" imac and it can be done
We dont know the 15" Air will be fanless...and nobody said that fanless can support Pro SoC, or at least i didnt read something like that
So who are those people who are thinking, or is there a topic about it?
Bottom line is that M3 mostly will not be present at the WWDC
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If it isn’t fanless, they won’t call it an Air. They would call it a Pro. There is already a Pro.
The expectation is that it’ll have the same thickness and the same design as the 13” Air but just a larger screen. It’s a formula that works well and sells well. Adding a fan in there is less appealing and makes the base M version worse.
Actually, IIRC, Intel MBA has fan? There are notebook fans that are extremely thin.
Yes, Intel MBA had fans because Intel chips ran hot. If you put fans in a 15" Air, you can't call it an Air anymore in my opinion. People are now accustomed to Air = no fans.
Intel Macs had to have fans because they are incapable of making processors that can survive without some form of active cooling solution. Apple Silicon is a different beast entirely. The fanless and completely silent operation of the AS Airs has become a hallmark of that product line.
Could we see M3 before A17...?
N3B wafers, for which Apple is the sole customer right now, have been in mass production since the end of 2022...?
I am hoping for M3 Ultra / M3 Extreme Mac Pros no later than WWDC 2023...!
N3B wafers, for which Apple is the sole customer right now, have been in mass production since the end of 2022...?
I am hoping for M3 Ultra / M3 Extreme Mac Pros no later than WWDC 2023...!
Although mass production is subjective regarding scale, stockpiling 3-6 months of SoCs suggest a high volume product. I doubt the MP will be that. Even if the studio is included, it seems unlikely unless of course the M3 Ultra have some major features that puts high end AMD/NVIDIA cards to shame. I doubt that even more.
Still hope we get the final piece of the transition revealed ASAP.
Out of touch geeks on enthusiast forums are accustomed
The masses don’t know if an MBA has a fan or not. It’s not like fans are expensive, either.
The masses ask their geeky family members which computers to buy and why.Out of touch geeks on enthusiast forums are accustomed
The masses don’t know if an MBA has a fan or not. It’s not like fans are expensive, either.
Yes, because it it will sell well no matter what chip Apple puts in. Then they can sell an M3 version later in the year and make twice the money off some people...Production of 15-Inch MacBook Air Components Underway, WWDC Launch Looking Likely
Panel production on the larger-screened 15-inch MacBook Air started in February and increased in March, with another ramp up planned for April,...
Do people really think Apple will use a one-year-old SoC to introduce arguably their most important Mac?
Intel's thermal issues only started with Coffee Lake in 2017. Skylake CPUs had great performance and good power consumption. The Y-series chips originally used in the 12" MB used as much power as Mx series (maybe even less), but they were also a good deal slower than other mobile chips. Notice how Apple discontinued the 12" exactly when it was clear that Intel was not able to deliver faster Y-series without increasing power consumption. Already the Kaby Lake models were running hotter than predecessors from what I remember.
Interestingly, Coffee Lake felt rushed because AMD was selling 8-core Zen CPUs with mainstream prices while Intel was selling 4-core variants at the same price point. So Intel upped core count to 6 with Coffee Lake which led to much higher power consumption.
I'm pretty sure most people universally thought the laptop ran too slow and hot. Apple discontinued it after 2 or 3 models.
Why in the past the fan Air was called Air when we already had Pro?
fanless is not the Air...Apple had fan Macbook Air for so long...the first fanless was the 12" Macbook
So you dont know.That said, im not saying you are wrong ! Apple can bring another fanless Air to the table but probably not the 3nm one
ofc...with Intel inside...but with a brand new "3nm" that could be a great addition
Just replace the current 13" Mba in 2024 and go for the 12.3" Mba and the 15" Mba with "3nm"
I know the 12" was loved by many because of what it was from design/dimensions point of view but with a brand new M3 it can be almost without past compromises
I was arguing semantics. Intel did build a chip that doesn't need active cooling (though active cooling would probably make things better).
Out of touch geeks on enthusiast forums are accustomed
The masses don’t know if an MBA has a fan or not. It’s not like fans are expensive, either.
You can't read a review of the Apple Silicon Airs without reading that they are fanless. Also, why would you need a fan in an Air?