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m0bil

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Is there any reason a Xeon 1275 would get about half the score in Geekbench 5 as the I5 2500? I thought this thing would outperform it by a mile, but these results are very disappointing.
Check you CPU clocks and reported temperatures from sensors. It's a common issue that CPU clock will not boost (stay at low clock) if you forgot to connect any of the temperature sensors.
 
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clewis97

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I will double check everything. The CPU temps are pretty stable at about 30-35 C. there is only the sensor on the heat sink, is that correct?
 

clewis97

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Check you CPU clocks and reported temperatures from sensors. It's a common issue that CPU clock will not boost (stay at low clock) if you forgot to connect any of the temperature sensors.
Also...IF I use Macs fan to set the cooling via software, would that affect it?
 

m0bil

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There are no missing cables. Everything is connected
Use an app like HWMonitor to show all temperature sensor values and post result here. Not all is cabling, sometimes the sensor or a component in the main board can be damaged while upgrading CPU.

Also, check CPU clock when under stress, to do so launch a benchmark app like geekbench and at the same time use a tool like Intel Power Gadget to get CPU clock speeds.


Did you upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time ?? I mean did you check the Xeon with the old GPU ?
 

clewis97

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Use an app like HWMonitor to show all temperature sensor values and post result here. Not all is cabling, sometimes the sensor or a component in the main board can be damaged while upgrading CPU.

Also, check CPU clock when under stress, to do so launch a benchmark app like geekbench and at the same time use a tool like Intel Power Gadget to get CPU clock speeds.


Did you upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time ?? I mean did you check the Xeon with the old GPU ?
I upgraded CPU, GPU, and SSD all at once. I will check temps and all else and post results here later today.
 
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m0bil

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I upgraded CPU, GPU, and SSD all at once. I will check temps and all else and post results here later today.
If you upgraded CPU and GPU at once there is also the possibility that the "new" GPU causes a smbus address collision with the logic board temperature sensors.
 
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clewis97

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If you upgraded CPU and GPU at once there is also the possibility that the "new" GPU causes a smbus address collision with the logic board temperature sensors.
Interesting. I am going to rebuild it this weekend. Hopefully things will even out. I'll try 1 thing at a time.
 
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clewis97

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I installed a xeon 1275 in a 2011 27 inch iMac and had some interesting results/. The CPU on ran at 1.6 GHz under load, as opposed to the 3.4-3.8 GHz it is rated at. I do not know why it would perform so miserably. Heat is not an issue and all sensors are correctly connected and fans are spinning normally. Any ideas?
 

clewis97

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If you upgraded CPU and GPU at once there is also the possibility that the "new" GPU causes a smbus address collision with the logic board temperature sensors.
I am going to try a vbios flash this weekend. Hopefully it clears this issue.
 

Greyday23

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Yesterday i updated my 21.5 inch 2011 iMacs CPU from the i5 2500s to the i7 2600s. After that the under right Ram slot stopped working and just gave 3 beeps. If i only put the Ram in the upper slots or in the left under Ram slot it works great. If i change the i5 2500s or i5 2400s back in it works perfectly. What can i do? Has anyone got such problems?
 

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Yesterday i updated my 21.5 inch 2011 iMacs CPU from the i5 2500s to the i7 2600s. After that the under right Ram slot stopped working and just gave 3 beeps. If i only put the Ram in the upper slots or in the left under Ram slot it works great. If i change the i5 2500s or i5 2400s back in it works perfectly. What can i do? Has anyone got such problems?
It's possible that you have a faulty CPU. I never experienced this with SB CPUs, but it has happened to me twice with an i7-860s in an iMac11,2 - one of the DIMM banks was not shown (nor accessible) with those faulty CPUs. (Of course, those faulty CPUs came from a questionable source...)
 
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Greyday23

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Got it fixed. It was an connection issue on the cpu. I tighten the screws more and now its working just perfectly with the new i7 :)
 
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16v

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Does an i7 2600k work?
I know overclocking doesnt work, but they are easier to find then a 2600...

Thx
 

dfranetic

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Does an i7 2600k work?
I know overclocking doesnt work, but they are easier to find then a 2600...

Thx
Depends on how you intend to use it. With High Sierra (and probably earlier) wake from sleep will be broken. If you use OCLP to run Big Sur or Monterey it should work as expected. (Explanation: Those CPUs have different IGPUs - HD2000 vs. HD3000 with device-ids 0x102 vs. 0x112. This breaks sleep/wake with High Sierra. Since OCLP disables the IGPU in 2011 iMacs it also restores wake from sleep as a side effect...)
 

jay508

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Found a very old 2011 27 inch, 10.16.8 system version is also a relatively old bootrom system firmware.

The seller and I are not in the same city due to the new crown epidemic control express shipping is not convenient.

At the right time I will buy for testing whether the i7 3770 can be used directly I now do not have E3 1230 V2 was given to a friend in the field.
 

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16v

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Depends on how you intend to use it. With High Sierra (and probably earlier) wake from sleep will be broken. If you use OCLP to run Big Sur or Monterey it should work as expected. (Explanation: Those CPUs have different IGPUs - HD2000 vs. HD3000 with device-ids 0x102 vs. 0x112. This breaks sleep/wake with High Sierra. Since OCLP disables the IGPU in 2011 iMacs it also restores wake from sleep as a side effect...)
But i7 2600 does work?
 

m0bil

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Found a very old 2011 27 inch, 10.16.8 system version is also a relatively old bootrom system firmware.

The seller and I are not in the same city due to the new crown epidemic control express shipping is not convenient.

At the right time I will buy for testing whether the i7 3770 can be used directly I now do not have E3 1230 V2 was given to a friend in the field.
Recently @Ausdauersportler and I did some testing on an old iMac with bootrom IM121.0047.B25 and an Ivy Bridge i7 3770. It did not work on the B25 bootrom. I also updated latest UEFI with Intel ME version 8 and Ivy Bridge microcodes, but it did not boot (UEFI changes did work on Sandy Bridge, but do not allow Ivy Bridge to boot).

I have later started deeper research on why Ivy Bridge is not working on our Z68 iMacs, will publish my findings soon on this thread, I think it can be made to work, but it is clear further UEFI mods and patching is needed.

Also, if you (or anyone else) have an Ivy Bridge cpu and want to help testing some mods I'm planning (logic board eeprom programming with clip is needed), all help is very welcome!
 
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jay508

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Recently @Ausdauersportler and I did some testing on an old iMac with bootrom IM121.0047.B25 and an Ivy Bridge i7 3770. It did not work on the B25 bootrom. I also updated latest UEFI with Intel ME version 8 and Ivy Bridge microcodes, but it did not boot (UEFI changes did work on Sandy Bridge, but do not allow Ivy Bridge to boot).

I have later started deeper research on why Ivy Bridge is not working on our Z68 iMacs, will publish my findings soon on this thread, I think it can be made to work, but it is clear further UEFI mods and patching is needed.

Also, if you (or anyone else) have an Ivy Bridge cpu and want to help testing some mods I'm planning (logic board eeprom programming with clip is needed), all help is very welcome!
Which version of macOS is the bootrom firmware version IM121.0047.B25?

Which firmware version is older, IM121.0047.B25 or IM121.0047.B0A?
 

m0bil

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Which version of macOS is the bootrom firmware version IM121.0047.B25?

Which firmware version is older, IM121.0047.B25 or IM121.0047.B0A?

The IM121.0047.B25 iMac came with Yosemite installed, but the problem with Ivy Bridge is that the iMac will not POST (no chime), it does not even start to load macOS.

IM121.0047.B0A is older than IM121.0047.B25

There is a single report of a user claiming to have made a working Ivy Bridge update here, using bootrom IM121.0047.B1G. If this is true maybe it's worth checking the B0A bootrom you found, as it is older than B25 (tested not working) and B1G (user said it worked).
 

jay508

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See the linked bootrom IM121.0047.B1G Update i7 3770 screenshot to see the picture information is the same as the i7 2600 3.4ghz No more detailed picture information that is i7 3770

This user bootrom IM121.0047.B1G OSX version is 10.8 I do not know if you can upgrade 10.8 through 10.6.8 installation to complete the update or have to bootrom IM121.0047.B1G

Read the post content discussing how many users have failed to update and upgrade their i7 3770 without success.

If this is the case you need to consider whether you need to buy this model for testing it is a gamble.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
 
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m0bil

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See the linked bootrom IM121.0047.B1G Update i7 3770 screenshot to see the picture information is the same as the i7 2600 3.4ghz No more detailed picture information that is i7 3770

This user bootrom IM121.0047.B1G OSX version is 10.8 I do not know if you can upgrade 10.8 through 10.6.8 installation to complete the update or have to bootrom IM121.0047.B1G

Read the post content discussing how many users have failed to update and upgrade their i7 3770 without success.

If this is the case you need to consider whether you need to buy this model for testing it is a gamble.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
After some research I fully agree with you, regarding 10 year old post from @hackerwayne claiming to make Ivy Bridge work on the 12,2:

- After 10 years there is no trace of B1G bootrom on the internet. Not even searching the geekbench database (where he supposedly uploaded a benchmark), no Apple support or EFI update page, nothing. You can find a lot of hits on every other bootrom version.
- No one has been able to replicate it. Earlier B1F and many later bootroms have been tested and they did not work.
- Screen captures posted did not prove they were made on an Ivy Bridge cpu.

So, sadly I think it was all a scam that made many people loose time (and money). Do not buy the B0A bootrom iMac just for testing IB, I don't think it will work.
 
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TheSynthax

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After some research I fully agree with you, regarding 10 year old post from @hackerwayne claiming to make Ivy Bridge work on the 12,2:

- After 10 years there is no trace of B1G bootrom on the internet. Not even searching the geekbench database (where he supposedly uploaded a benchmark), no Apple support or EFI update page, nothing. You can find a lot of hits on every other bootrom version.
- No one has been able to replicate it. Earlier B1F and many later bootroms have been tested and they did not work.
- Screen captures posted did not prove they were made on an Ivy Bridge cpu.

So, sadly I think it was all a scam that made many people loose time (and money). Do not buy the B0A bootrom iMac just for testing IB, I don't think it will work.
Are you still interesting in patching this BIOS? I'm working on something similar.
 
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