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bbeagle

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Yeah, using an Apple Watch in a hot tub will never end well...

I think you're right.

I'll stop using my Apple Watch in the hot tub, but still swim with it and see how it works.

Sort of scared with all the heat we've been getting recently. Our unheated pool was 89 degrees a few days ago. It was not refreshing - felt like it was a hot tub. Might just not wear my watch in the pool either if it gets above 90 degrees in there.

An off-topic question: How do people in Florida manage with pools? Do they have some way of cooling down their pools? I couldn't imagine swimming in it all the time if it's above 90 in there!
 

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I think you're right.

I'll stop using my Apple Watch in the hot tub, but still swim with it and see how it works.

Sort of scared with all the heat we've been getting recently. Our unheated pool was 89 degrees a few days ago. It was not refreshing - felt like it was a hot tub. Might just not wear my watch in the pool either if it gets above 90 degrees in there.

An off-topic question: How do people in Florida manage with pools? Do they have some way of cooling down their pools? I couldn't imagine swimming in it all the time if it's above 90 in there!

I Think it’s just a matter of using common sense that you don’t want to take a smart watch into a hot tub, because the steam can penetrate pass the water seals and affect the internal components. Others have done so and their watches have failed, not necessarily because of the water exposure or temperature, but the steam alone is problematic.
 

Ascen5ion

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I broke mine a week ago.. Just happened to look down and saw a hairline crack on the perimeter of the bezel. I have hit the watch in the past and not a scratch, was shocked when I didn't appear to hit it and it was broken. I was just like oh well guess I'm doing a screen swap. I have swapped several iphone screens. Didn't expect the screen to cost $200 dollars alone... I have bought iphone screens for $30-$40. So then I went to Apple's site and saw that it was $280 to repair a $400 watch.. What the H. Then while researching part replacement options I'm reading of others who have broken their watches without immediately knowing. I would feel a lot better at least knowing when I did this. That's the disturbing part to me. If it broke without me knowing I suspect the watch is not as scratch/break proof as advertised. I'm seeing a class action lawsuit too in CO. So with that info I was like I'm going to see what Apple says. I brought the watch into the local store and they sent it out to their service center. Got a denial email yesterday. Not surprised but definitely disappointed. I have never broken a watch while wearing it in my life (40 yrs old). I bought another Apple watch when I sent the original out for repair. I didn't think Apple would step up. Idk I'm torn, feel like it may be a defect and then again maybe I hit it while walking around my house and didn't feel it? Maybe it's like waking up with a bruise on your leg and not knowing how it happened. It would have been nice to know though!
 

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ftaok

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I broke mine a week ago.. Just happened to look down and saw a hairline crack on the perimeter of the bezel. I have hit the watch in the past and not a scratch, was shocked when I didn't appear to hit it and it was broken. I was just like oh well guess I'm doing a screen swap. I have swapped several iphone screens. Didn't expect the screen to cost $200 dollars alone... I have bought iphone screens for $30-$40. So then I went to Apple's site and saw that it was $280 to repair a $400 watch.. What the H. Then while researching part replacement options I'm reading of others who have broken their watches without immediately knowing. I would feel a lot better at least knowing when I did this. That's the disturbing part to me. If it broke without me knowing I suspect the watch is not as scratch/break proof as advertised. I'm seeing a class action lawsuit too in CO. So with that info I was like I'm going to see what Apple says. I brought the watch into the local store and they sent it out to their service center. Got a denial email yesterday. Not surprised but definitely disappointed. I have never broken a watch while wearing it in my life (40 yrs old). I bought another Apple watch when I sent the original out for repair. I didn't think Apple would step up. Idk I'm torn, feel like it may be a defect and then again maybe I hit it while walking around my house and didn't feel it? Maybe it's like waking up with a bruise on your leg and not knowing how it happened. It would have been nice to know though!
Looking at those pictures, it looks like that AW has been through a lot. The aluminum case has a lot of chips in it. I don't think that is normal wear and tear on the case.

You probably hit the screen on something at some point that weakened the screen. Then over time, the small chip in the screen becomes a bigger and bigger crack.

Although I do agree with you that the AW repair costs are quite outrageous.
 

Ascen5ion

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Looking at those pictures, it looks like that AW has been through a lot. The aluminum case has a lot of chips in it. I don't think that is normal wear and tear on the case.

You probably hit the screen on something at some point that weakened the screen. Then over time, the small chip in the screen becomes a bigger and bigger crack.

Although I do agree with you that the AW repair costs are quite outrageous.


The case? Yep has a nick and that was there prior to me looking down and seeing it broken. Otherwise the case is in good shape. My issue is I have no idea when it happened. I got up in the morning and it was fine, one hour later I look down and it's broken. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence lol.
 

CasuallyDressed

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Recently noticed a similar crack develop on mine. 42mm S3. Perimeter crack on the top/right/bottom, nothing on the left side. After Googling around it may be a swollen battery? I’m pretty careful with it, though I will admit that I’ve accidentally knocked it a couple times but not left any noticeable damage.

Kinda concerning that some people get theirs replaced under “swollen battery”, yet others with exact looking damage are being denied. No consistency.
 

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Recently noticed a similar crack develop on mine. 42mm S3. Perimeter crack on the top/right/bottom, nothing on the left side. After Googling around it may be a swollen battery? I’m pretty careful with it, though I will admit that I’ve accidentally knocked it a couple times but not left any noticeable damage.

Kinda concerning that some people get theirs replaced under “swollen battery”, yet others with exact looking damage are being denied. No consistency.

Without pictures, it’s difficult to say, I would still have apple assess it and if it is a swollen battery, then it would be covered under warranty., Although, the Series 3 Apple Watch wasn’t really known to have swelling batteries as much as it was affecting the first generation Apple Watch through the Series 3.
 

bbeagle

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Kinda concerning that some people get theirs replaced under “swollen battery”, yet others with exact looking damage are being denied. No consistency.

I've noticed that Apple gives their Geniuses lots of leniency. If you're really nice to them and don't have an entitled attitude, many times they'll perform fixes (that they really shouldn't) for free.
 

CasuallyDressed

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I've noticed that Apple gives their Geniuses lots of leniency. If you're really nice to them and don't have an entitled attitude, many times they'll perform fixes (that they really shouldn't) for free.
So last night the screen detached from the body. I was sitting at home, heard a *pop*, and saw that 3 edges of the screen have detached from the body, creating a hinge. I spoke to Apple on chat and they asked if I could see if the battery was swollen, so I creaked up the screen and took this photo:

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Looks swollen to me, but I don’t know what the Geniuses will say.
 

ftaok

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So last night the screen detached from the body. I was sitting at home, heard a *pop*, and saw that 3 edges of the screen have detached from the body, creating a hinge. I spoke to Apple on chat and they asked if I could see if the battery was swollen, so I creaked up the screen and took this photo:

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Looks swollen to me, but I don’t know what the Geniuses will say.
Looks swollen to me as well. Good luck with Apple on getting a replacement.
 

CasuallyDressed

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Just had the phone call from Apple. The dude saw the picture I sent to chat a couple days ago and he agreed that the battery looks swollen, so he’s putting that in the repair notes and set up a collection box. If when the engineers get it they think otherwise then I will be billed for the repair. I creaked the screen up a bit more (can’t make it worse, right?) and got a few more pics. What do you guys think?

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Just had the phone call from Apple. The dude saw the picture I sent to chat a couple days ago and he agreed that the battery looks swollen, so he’s putting that in the repair notes and set up a collection box. If when the engineers get it they think otherwise then I will be billed for the repair. I creaked the screen up a bit more (can’t make it worse, right?) and got a few more pics. What do you guys think?

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I honestly can’t tell from your pictures if the battery is swollen or not. The technicians will make that decision once they receive your watch and then inspect it for any type of damage or any other considerations. If the battery pouch looks swollen or Puffy like, then chances are that the battery is indeed swollen and causing the display to Detach, which then would in return fall under their warranty replacement if that’s the determination they make.
 
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throAU

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After 2 months, my Apple Watch 3 has a cracked screen (diagonally across the top right corner), the touch function is gone so I can’t enter my passcode - so it is essentially a brick. I’m certain I didn’t drop it or whack it against anything. Apple won’t repair it under warranty and it would cost me $280 for repair. That’s not going to happen. Has anyone else encountered this problem?

I have a similar crack along the bottom right edge.

Apparently its not an uncommon thing and people are claiming they havent knocked it. I didn't knock mine either and there isn't a mark on the case near it...

That said, mine's an S2. I'm waiting for the S4.
 

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I have a similar crack along the bottom right edge.

Apparently its not an uncommon thing and people are claiming they havent knocked it. I didn't knock mine either and there isn't a mark on the case near it...

That said, mine's an S2. I'm waiting for the S4.

Its Difficult to say what’s ‘Uncommon’ just based off what we read on the internet (Which is a very small percentage compared to to those who don’t share their experiences on the internet). But why don’t you have Apple inspect your watch? If they can determine the fault is not caused from impact, then perhaps you have a chance at looking at a replacement device at minimum, or the very worst, they Don’t assist you.
 

throAU

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Its Difficult to say what’s ‘Uncommon’ just based off what we read on the internet (Which is a very small percentage compared to to those who don’t share their experiences on the internet). But why don’t you have Apple inspect your watch? If they can determine the fault is not caused from impact, then perhaps you have a chance at looking at a replacement device at minimum, or the very worst, they Don’t assist you.

Yeah perhaps uncommon is the wrong word of.

I perhaps meant “not unheard of”.
 

Texaggies24

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After 2 months, my Apple Watch 3 has a cracked screen (diagonally across the top right corner), the touch function is gone so I can’t enter my passcode - so it is essentially a brick. I’m certain I didn’t drop it or whack it against anything. Apple won’t repair it under warranty and it would cost me $280 for repair. That’s not going to happen. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
[doublepost=1534207709][/doublepost]Here are some pics of mine. I was talking on it walking. I lost the call and then got on my phone. And when I got back and looked at my watch there was a crack on it. This watch is less than 2 weeks old. I take very good care and there is no impact. I have not contacted Apple yet. But I’m going to be really mad if they blame this on me.



After 2 months, my Apple Watch 3 has a cracked screen (diagonally across the top right corner), the touch function is gone so I can’t enter my passcode - so it is essentially a brick. I’m certain I didn’t drop it or whack it against anything. Apple won’t repair it under warranty and it would cost me $280 for repair. That’s not going to happen. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
 

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44267547

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[doublepost=1534207709][/doublepost]Here are some pics of mine. I was talking on it walking. I lost the call and then got on my phone. And when I got back and looked at my watch there was a crack on it. This watch is less than 2 weeks old. I take very good care and there is no impact. I have not contacted Apple yet. But I’m going to be really mad if they blame this on me.

If your watch is less than two weeks old and accrued a crack without any type of physical damage to the watch or casing, then they should be able to replace your watch if they can prove it’s a defect. If your watch was dropped for example and was smashed on the ground, then that would be a different scenario. But being that there is no other physical damage to your watch as you noted, and it’s literally new, you shouldn’t have an issue with Apple assisting you with the replacement watch.
 

CasuallyDressed

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Welp, Apple received my watch and deemed it my fault that the screen cracked/popped off. Excellent. £226 later I hope a brand spanky new watch comes back and not a refurb.
 

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Welp, Apple received my watch and deemed it my fault that the screen cracked/popped off. Excellent. £226 later I hope a brand spanky new watch comes back and not a refurb.

There is *no* way I would pay that fee for a few reasons. I would sell the watch broken ‘As is’. One of Apples refurbished Series 3 Apple Watches starts at $309 for a 42 MM, which is only a difference of $83 from your repair, which includes a one-year warranty. Then factor that the Series 3 will be be dropping in value again, assuming that a Series 4 is slated to launch in the next few weeks.

In Addition, if you truly believe that the watch was broken not being due to your fault, then you should have escalated this situation and not pay the repair fee, and had Apple ship it back to you, and try to prove your case in a different route. There is no way I would pay for something if you truly believe it’s out of your control what happened to the watch.
 
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jsm280

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I broke mine a week ago.. Just happened to look down and saw a hairline crack on the perimeter of the bezel. I have hit the watch in the past and not a scratch, was shocked when I didn't appear to hit it and it was broken. I was just like oh well guess I'm doing a screen swap. I have swapped several iphone screens. Didn't expect the screen to cost $200 dollars alone... I have bought iphone screens for $30-$40. So then I went to Apple's site and saw that it was $280 to repair a $400 watch.. What the H. Then while researching part replacement options I'm reading of others who have broken their watches without immediately knowing. I would feel a lot better at least knowing when I did this. That's the disturbing part to me. If it broke without me knowing I suspect the watch is not as scratch/break proof as advertised. I'm seeing a class action lawsuit too in CO. So with that info I was like I'm going to see what Apple says. I brought the watch into the local store and they sent it out to their service center. Got a denial email yesterday. Not surprised but definitely disappointed. I have never broken a watch while wearing it in my life (40 yrs old). I bought another Apple watch when I sent the original out for repair. I didn't think Apple would step up. Idk I'm torn, feel like it may be a defect and then again maybe I hit it while walking around my house and didn't feel it? Maybe it's like waking up with a bruise on your leg and not knowing how it happened. It would have been nice to know though!

The same thing happened to me a few months ago. I noticed that there was a weird crack around the perimeter of my watch. I could still use it so I didn't do anything about it at the time. A week later, I (bareley) knocked my watch against a wall and the face cracked enough to render the screen useless. I contacted Apple and their response was "you can buy a new watch at full price." WTF? I am fairly certain that there is an issue with these watches that causes the screen to crack around the perimeter and Apple is being Apple and refusing to acknowledge a flaw in their "perfect" design.

Watches get beat up, right, so don't make a watch with a huge screen if you refuse to use a glass that is not strong enough to withstand daily bumps. I am in the same boat as the OP (minus 30 years) in that I have never broken a watch face. The Apple watch cracked along the perimeter and I do not remember an impact that would cause such a break. I am certain that the initial crack weakened the screen and allowed the second crack to occur. I would love to see a class action lawsuit here as I think Apple is being negligent in creating a flawed product and refusing to address the cracking issues. Again, this is not a smartphone. We don't put our watches in our pockets, they are on an exposed part of our body that is constantly in action. This watch is, supposedly, designed for action/sports.

I had a Fitbit Surge for two years before the Apple Watch 3. Yes, the band came apart (replaced for free), but the screen remained perfect. I doubt my activities were any different when I was using the Surge.

Edit: I just heard about and read the class action lawsuit in CO. The complaint seems spot on and I think the "geniuses" are encouraged to discourage complainers from pursuing the matter. I know that I was definitely discouraged by the "genius" that I talked to on the phone. He said flat out that there was nothing Apple would do other than sell me a new watch - even after I mentioned the known swollen battery issue. After that phone conversation I was left feeling like it was hopeless to pursue the matter. That was before June, before this lawsuit was filed, before more people had spoken out about the perimeter cracks on the AW3.
What a completely untrustworthy company Apple has turned out to be.
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Add me to the list of folks with a cracked screen that *I did not crack*. I was making dinner one night and the watch face was fine, then 20 min later it looked shattered on one side and had a large crack running through it. No whacks and no drops. If there are “invisible” impact cracks that just suddenly shatter your screen, I fail to see how this is the consumers fault. All the pompous Apple acolytes in this thread clearly don’t want to admit that Apple might actually be at fault from a design or manufacturing perspective. How dare you blame the original poster and the growing number of other posters that it’s all they’re fault and are either hopeless bumbling fools or liars? I am a computer programmer - you design to points of failure, not to best case scenarios. Things are going to go wrong and a watch with a $400 price point should not up and shatter for no apparent reason, especially a month old watch (mine) with no visible damage. Who on earth would keep buying things from a company that cannot design enough give in their products to allow normal use without busting randomly? Not me. Last Apple product I’ll buy - I’m a real person, not a robot. If you can’t design your product to withstand normal wear and tear (especially in a waterproof SPORT watch), then you clearly need a fiscal wake up call to make much needed design changes to your products. So, no, Apple, I won’t pay you to replace my brand new under warranty watch. I will, though, call Apple Customer support again on the off chance they’ll replace the screen for free (like a decent company that takes pride in making a quality product should). Perhaps if this was my first issue with Apple, I might play ball but it’s not. Anybody remember when they bricked most of their phones 8 or so years ago when they upgraded the O/S? I couldn’t even call 911 if I needed to...and they tried to tell me it was a hardware issue when I called (on another phone, to boot). Uh, no. And then there is the whole battery life issue that came to light recently for “older” model iPhones. Apple ain’t perfect, folks, and it’s not always the consumers fault when things go wrong with one of their products.

Agreed! The design should take into account normal wear and tear. Honestly, I fully expected the watch to be durable because it needs to be durable. Phones go in pockets where there is a modicum of protection. Watches go on wrists where there is no protection. If Apple was unable to design a watch that could handled daily use then they should have either A) waited until they could create such a design or B) provided screen and watch protectors to the consumer for free. I miss my watch. It was fun to use for the few months that it worked, but I am appalled at the response regurgitated by the Apple "geniuses".
 
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Shotymouse

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Just found my six month old S3 Apple Watch on the charger red hot and cracked all the way round the screen. Battery looked like a pillow ( rather than flat). Took it to an Apple approved repair centre and they agreed swollen battery. Sent to Apple and they said I must have dropped it. I tried hard to convince them that it had never been dropped, but they wouldn’t budge. Their own forum is full of people with the same problem ( literally thousands) and yet they refuse to acknowledge the problem. I posted an identical statement to this on the Apple forum and it was removed within 12 hours ( apparently it was a “rant”, you be the judge). Something is amiss and needs to be sorted. They have finally backed down over the series1 and 2. Maybe they’ll come to their senses over the 3. There is a class action lawsuit pending in the USA over this very problem.
 
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