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Dear Apple, WHY NO BLU RAY in the new Macs!?!?! ARGH!

themoonisdown09 said:
I guess in order for Handbrake to do the full process, the VLC decryption library would have to support Blu-rays (since that's what Handbrake uses now). Once that library is updated, than Handbrake would have to support Blu-rays. Here's to hoping that this happens within the next year or so. :D
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Decrypting Blu-ray is much more challenging than DVDs, so it might be some time (if ever) before we see that in VLC Lib. Plus, HB will have to get better at handling DTS-HD - sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This doesn't seem to be a problem with True-HD; HB extracts AC3 DD from it just fine.
 
you know what pisses me off? the keyboard with numeric keypad is STILL wired... AND it takes an additional 2 days to friggin ship...

...oh yea, and no blueray... not as frustrating though.
 
msmth928 said:
Doesn't in the slightest. It's about choice and standards.

I want to play my blu rays where I want, not where YOU or APPLE tell me to :rolleyes:

Stop being the apologetic mac fanboy that the rest of the world laugh at. It's dumb not to want the industry standard player of high definition movies on your Personal Computer. And it's insulting that Apple did not include one when it would have cost next to peanuts to include one ESPECIALLY when you consider Macs are meant to be a premium product! It's embarrassing to say the least!

Can see this amusing little story play out a million times...
Friend 1: Hey, I bought a blu ray movie with me, stick it in your computer there's a great clip I want to show you
Friend 2: *Hangs head in shame* Er, my brand new super expensive mac doesn't have a blu ray player dude
Friend 1: PHSL (h = himself, PMSL)
Friend 2: *considers jumping off a cliff or suicide bombing apple HQ*
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Maybe you should try playing it your Bluray player instead. Christ!

Personally, I wouldn't bring a BD over to a friend's house, anyway. Freak might damage it.
 
The lack of bluray is the only thing keeping me from buying a new Mac.

At this point, the only benefit to Apple forcing me to wait is that LightPeak may be part of the update in March.
 
It's interesting also that the new Macs have the true HD aspect ratio of 16:9 as opposed to the standard 16:10 the computer industry normally stick to.
 
300D said:
The lack of bluray is the only thing keeping me from buying a new Mac.

At this point, the only benefit to Apple forcing me to wait is that LightPeak may be part of the update in March.
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March 2015:D
 
If you really thought the new iMacs were going to have Blu-Ray, you haven't been paying attention. Until the Mac Pro gets the ability to read and write Blu-Ray, I don't believe you will be seeing either function on the iMac.
 
JAT said:
Maybe you should try playing it your Bluray player instead. Christ!

Personally, I wouldn't bring a BD over to a friend's house, anyway. Freak might damage it.
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No, I don't want to go downstairs to watch a movie ALL the time. Sometimes I want to watch one in 1080p on my 30" dell (2560 x 1600 btw, not the crappy x 1440 the new 27" imacs got) WHILST working on the mac at the same time.

While I tend to watch blu rays downstairs in the lounge on the PS3 for the first time, sometimes I like to watch them a second time - but whilst doing other stuff at the same time. Or as is the case if the movie doesn't interest me that much but I still want to watch it (but don't want to devote 100% to it).

But I guess for most kids thesedays, watching it on their PC/Mac is the best place - as kids love the privacy of their bedrooms!

Apple is pissing off a lot of movie buffs by not including one - movie buffs know the difference between 720p and 1080p, and streamed (highly compressed) and solid media (blu ray) quality.
 
msmth928 said:
Apple is pissing off a lot of movie buffs by not including one - movie buffs know the difference between 720p and 1080p, and streamed (highly compressed) and solid media (blu ray) quality.
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I think Apple's biggest issue is the inherent OS invasiveness of the Blu-ray rules. If you want Blu-ray video on your Mac you can do it. It's just a matter of taking the time to rip the disc to your hard drive. Then you can watch it anywhere you want.
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
If you really thought the new iMacs were going to have Blu-Ray, you haven't been paying attention. Until the Mac Pro gets the ability to read and write Blu-Ray, I don't believe you will be seeing either function on the iMac.
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If you think the MP gets all the new tech first, you need to take off the blinders.
 
Cave Man said:
I think Apple's biggest issue is the inherent OS invasiveness of the Blu-ray rules. If you want Blu-ray video on your Mac you can do it. It's just a matter of taking the time to rip the disc to your hard drive. Then you can watch it anywhere in your want.
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What inherent OS invasiveness? Apple was on the blu ray consortium board of directors for christs sakes.

It's all about forcing their download service on us. And it bugs the hell out of me.
 
msmth928 said:
What inherent OS invasiveness?
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At the kernel level. Apple likely believes they should be the only ones to have code in the kernel, and I don't blame them.

Apple was on the blu ray consortium board of directors for christs sakes.
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What does this have to do with anything? Apple cannot impose their will on the Blu-ray group.

It's all about forcing their download service on us. And it bugs the hell out of me.
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This is probably true.
 
ob81 said:
Blu-Ray on a computer is a gimmick anyway. If you want to burn blu-ray for some weird reason, get an external drive. Watching $40 movies on a computer screen? NO THANKS.
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I've seen a few people make this comment, but I don't understand it. I know that a lot of people enjoy watching movies on their computer (I'm one of them, but I have several friends that do too). What's the issue with watching movies on a computer? :confused:

Edit: More to the point, if you want support then send feedback to Apple. I just have, and if enough people do then hopefully Apple will start paying attention.
 
Cave Man said:
At the kernel level. Apple likely believes they should be the only ones to have code in the kernel, and I don't blame them.
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Please elaborate.

As far as I am aware it's to do with DRM - just like code is there for other DRM currently handled by apple.
 
300D said:
Um, being part of the decision making process is kind of the entire point of being on the board in the first place!
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They are one vote of many. I suspect the studios held the upper hand on this because of how easily DVD encryption was defeated.

msmth928 said:
Please elaborate. As far as I am aware it's to do with DRM - just like code is there for other DRM currently handled by apple.
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The Blu-ray Disc specification requires decryption and HDCP code at the kernel level of the OS, which is parsed every few seconds (unlike DVDs, which are only checked upon insertion).

Again, I don't know if this is Apple's rationale, but it could be.
 
Nermal said:
I've seen a few people make this comment, but I don't understand it. I know that a lot of people enjoy watching movies on their computer (I'm one of them, but I have several friends that do too). What's the issue with watching movies on a computer? :confused:

Edit: More to the point, if you want support then send feedback to Apple. I just have, and if enough people do then hopefully Apple will start paying attention.
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Thanks! I just posted this:

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Apple Macs are meant to be a premium product, yet (the new iMacs, with 1080p screens I hasten to add!) don't even have a blu ray drive!!

Please don't tell us we wouldn't notice the difference between BR movies and those offered via your download service. (And please don't try to tell us how we should buy our movies!) We're not dumb. We want the choice to play them on our personal computers if we want to. And we want BR because it is the industry standard and the quality is the best you can currently get - and did I mention industry standard? Most premium windows PC come with a blu ray drive now!

From a disappointed and angry Mac user, who is beginning to distrust Apple more and more by the day.

I love Apple products, but when a company starts to put profit way before customers then it's time to move on.
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pastrychef said:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2007/08/aacs-tentacles.ars
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Yep it's to do with DRM. And completely acceptable that Hollywood would want appropriate code in place to prevent movies being ripped so easily. (The code is just meant to monitor access to DRM content by unauthorised apps - and prevent it if that happens.)

Like I said, it's nothing to do with expense or security - but everything to do with Apple wanting to push their download service.
 
Because not many people really care that much about bluray.
And if you would want to watch a bluray movie you'd see it on a nice big tv screen. Think about it. Lolmy best guess is that macbooks and MacBook pros will get it befrr anything else does just because they'll be updated next year or so.

But I'll be honest, I really don't care about bluray. Ituneshd quality isn't that bad. And if I want to watch a good quality bluray movie of rather sit on my couch than a computer chair to see it on a much smaller screen.

And of they added Bluray macs would be more expensive.
 
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