Design choices for iOS 10 is UGLY!

[iOSUser7]

It's very obvious that it's not even close to a finished app in its current state. Based off some buttons do nothing, very key things missing that no way will be missing from final, fonts set to smallest show up as they do while set at largest (and bigger than when set at middle)

The Apple site is just showing a preview of iOS 10 and isn't showing a final product. Wouldn't be the first time. Remember the Night Shift icon that was shown on the Canadian Apple site? It was changed 1 build later.

No it's not obvious, it could just be the way Apple designers think the new Music app should be.

I never said that the Apple website was showing the final version, I said that it usually show a very similar version to what we will see in September.

And about the screenshot with the unfinished Night Shift icon, it obviously wasn't meant to be shown to the public as it was quickly pulled off and was only seen in the canadian website and nowhere else.

 

[InsoftUK]

Regarding the iOS design direction with its rounded corners and some of the apps.

It is best to point out things we don't like in BETA 1 and not when it is BETA 5 or Preview of Final as that would be too late for Apple to do much about the design. Let Apple know now before it goes too far into the design.

 

[lagwagon]

It is best to point out things we don't like in BETA 1 and not when it is BETA 5 or Preview of Final as that would be too late for Apple to do much about the design. Let Apple know now before it goes too far into the design.

There is a difference between pointing out something and flat out complaining about something that probably isn't an issue in the next build or two (more so in the case of right now in beta 1)

Things people are complaining about right now may already be resolved in beta 2. (Like most companies, Apple has internal builds that are much further along than what is seeded to testers at that very moment.)

 

[GreyOS]

The 5 and 5c are the only iPhones that are iOS 10 supported that do not have Touch ID. By the time iOS 10 rolls out, the iPhone 7 will release. (5s, 6, 6s, 7) That will be the 4th generation phone beyond a 5. The amount of people who will be still using a 5 after that point will decrease. Then factor in the amount of people who use would still use a 5 and ALSO do not have a Passcode set. That number gets immensely smaller.

Raise to Wake is currently (as far as beta 1 goes) a 6s, 6s+ and SE only thing. Best case scenario is it gets enabled to the 6 and perhaps 5s. This feature cannot become available on a 5 or 5c due to the 5s and up devices are the only ones with a coprocessor technically capable of doing it. (M7, M8, M9)

This change is for moving forward not supporting old outdated, soon to be gone forever devices such as an iPhone 5/5c.

Don't know if you saw my earlier post but I just wanted to correct some assumptions you made, for everyone's clarity. No device (including the latest) has to use Touch ID or a passcode, and all devices can opt for just a passcode with a delay so they don't have to enter it if they used their phone recently.

That said I do agree it is still a small number of people now, but on the other hand it would not be too hard for Apple to have swipe to unlock when there's no passcode, as the other user suggested. In fact I see a fair potential for it to come in future betas; I remember the mechanics of iOS 7 swipe to unlock changed over the betas as people were pocket dialling more for a little while.

 

[AZhappyjack]

If someone turns off Touch ID then Apple needs to have iOS have Slide To Unlock come up.
iPad 4, Air, etc don't have Touch ID

The iPads are not typically "pocket" devices... so the issue of inadvertently unlocking them while they are one's pocket, seems to be somewhat moot.

 

[InsoftUK]

Apple has to bring it back, just too early as some iPads that are supported

The iPads are not typically "pocket" devices... so the issue of inadvertently unlocking them while they are one's pocket, seems to be somewhat moot.

What if you have an iPad on the bed and you move it off and place it down somewhere not noticing your have hit the home button, Apple got no option to have Slide To Unlock when no passcode is being used on any iDevice. It is not nice to punish users for owning older devices or opting for no passcode, that is what Apple are doing they need to rethink, think different.

 

[lagwagon]

Don't know if you saw my earlier post but I just wanted to correct some assumptions you made, for everyone's clarity. No device (including the latest) has to use Touch ID or a passcode, and all devices can opt for just a passcode with a delay so they don't have to enter it if they used their phone recently.

That said I do agree it is still a small number of people now, but on the other hand it would not be too hard for Apple to have swipe to unlock when there's no passcode, as the other user suggested. In fact I see a fair potential for it to come in future betas; I remember the mechanics of iOS 7 swipe to unlock changed over the betas as people were pocket dialling more for a little while.

I did see your post. And sure adding back Slide to Unlock for cases of Touch ID and Passcode both being disabled. However. In that scenario it's quicker to quickly double tap the Home button instead of a tap on the Home button and then shifting your thumb up onto the screen and doing the swipe gesture.

It's just different to what everyone has been accustomed to over the last few years. A lot of people are just coming up with very rare, one off scenarios why it "could" be worse.

Any accidental unlock with both features disabled would require the Home button in your pocket getting pressed twice in the window of about 10-20 seconds before the screen auto sleeps again.

 

[AZhappyjack]

What if you have an iPad on the bed and you move it off and place it down somewhere not noticing your have hit the home button, Apple got no option to have Slide To Unlock when no passcode is being used on any iDevice. It is not nice to punish users for owning older devices or opting for no passcode, that is what Apple are doing they need to rethink, think different.

I have to admit that I'm lost. What does your scenario have to do with anything? It's not like you're going to butt-dial someone on an iPad. Unlockng the device when moving it would be no different than just moving it without unlocking it. How is anyone being "punished"?

The function of a pocket-able phone is significantly different from that of a non-pocket-able tablet device.

With that said, I prefer the "slide to unlock" because I am used to the action... but I can live with it either way.

 

[Latinking25]

One thing I'm not liking is the new layout of albums on photos, it looks too much like android. I like the older version better

 

[gold333]

I'm a designer/artist.

I've updated from IOS 5 all the way to IOS 9.3.5. I was blown away with tears in my eyes when I saw the clean, minimalist IOS 7 look.

IOS 10 is the first time I won't update my IOS devices because of the major quality steps back in terms of design aesthetic.

Design is a science (no I'm not talking about color preferences), use of white space, giving elements breathing room, maximising space, minimising ornamentation, eye leading, process control. In all of these it seems as if the IOS 10 design team is a completely different group. A much less talented group of designers.

IOS7-9 design was like a high tech, "actual" futuristic version of that 80's neon pop culture future depicted in the movie Back to the Future Part II. But an "actual 2015" version of the design language suggested in that 1985 film. Over the top, eye catching yet minimalist at the same time. A seemingly impossible combination which appeared to be the work of a genius.

IOS 10 is simply numerous steps backward from that minimalist masterpiece. Listen to Ive's IOS 7 keynote ad, IOS 10 reverts most of what he says. Whether some higherup at Apple want to make it easier to attract Android defectors or whatever, IOS 10 simply looks like an ugly financial decision compromise, not the work of art IOS 7-9 were.

I will add the Apple IOS update server to the restricted websites (Restrictions) aswell to stop being nagged about the IOS 10 update being ready.

What do I stand to lose? A bunch of messages toys aimed at 12 year old children? Most people use Fb messenger anyway.

 

[SoYoung]

How can you stop the update keep coming with pop ups ?

 

[Richardgm]

How can you stop the update keep coming with pop ups ?

Go into storage and delete the download.

 

[gold333]

How can you stop the update keep coming with pop ups ?

Easy, delete the download from storage and then:

general->restrictions->limit adult content

And add these two domains:

• mesu.apple.com
• appldnld.apple.com

If ever that stops working just add those domains to the restricted list in your wifi router. That way you'll not be bothered at home and just occasionally see them when u r outside.

I think actually that the value of "nostalgia" IOS7-9 devices is likely to go up as soon as most people update to IOS 10.

 

[KALLT]

What do I stand to lose? A bunch of messages toys aimed at 12 year old children? Most people use Fb messenger anyway.

Security and performance improvements and some really interesting APIs. Apple added some not insignificant additions to platform security.

I was blown away with tears in my eyes when I saw the clean, minimalist IOS 7 look.

I had tears in my eyes too, but not of the same kind. I occasionally use an iPhone 4 with iOS 6 and it still think that its design is superior purely from a usability and accessibility standpoint. The entire system has a grip and obviousness to it that was lost with iOS 7. Just as Apple got carried away with excessive ornamentation (leather and such) they are now doing it again with excessive use of translucency.

 

[MRU]

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Design is a science .

It is also highly subjective ... Your opinion as a designer remains merely your opinion and not definitive fact.

 

[Barrierfreeman]

IOS 10 is simply numerous steps backward from that minimalist masterpiece.

You'll be using it by the end of the year.

 

[C DM]

Security and performance improvements and some really interesting APIs. Apple added some not insignificant additions to platform security. I always advice people to update quickly, even though I am



I had tears in my eyes too, but not of the same kind. I occasionally use an iPhone 4 with iOS 6 and it still think that its design is superior purely from a usability and accessibility standpoint. The entire system has a grip and obviousness to it that was lost with iOS 7. Just as Apple got carried away with excessive ornamentation (leather and such) they are now doing it again with excessive use of translucency.

Out of curiosity, what type of platform security additions are you referring to?

 

[gold333]

You'll be using it by the end of the year.

Undoubtedly I'll be using a later IOS than 9 at some point. But it won't be this year, and I think I'll always keep my current devices on IOS 9.3.5 as a nostalgic legacy of what IOS 7-9 were.

I simply have no need for the features I've seen on 10.

And don't we all hate what iPhone 4s has become nowadays? A sluggish archaic device (on the latest OS) it reminds a little of years gone by HTC HD devices running ghastly windows mobile. A lot better obviously but almost as sluggish. I'd hate that to happen to say an Air 2 or even iPhone 5S.

But devices I buy in the future sure, will be IOS 10-11.

 

[GreyOS]

it's not changed loads, it's still much closer to 7-9 than what came before it. most stock apps are identical or virtually so. notifications and control centre are the only things really.

dare i say you're making too big a deal out of it?

 

[gold333]

it's not changed loads, it's still much closer to 7-9 than what came before it. most stock apps are identical or virtually so. notifications and control centre are the only things really.

dare i say you're making too big a deal out of it?

Absolutely you can. 10 is not hideous. It's just (to me) slightly worse than what preceded it. I'm a minimalist at heart. Like the control centre on 7-9 was just transluscent with white highlights. Just two colors, yes or no, on or off. Now it's 3 or 5 colors when 2 were enough, no frills, no ornamentation, pure, minimalist. Like a Jacopo Mascerone $50 million villa in the Dolomites.

It's what I like, others have a different view obviously. IOS 10 is by no means revolting, far from it.. Just (to me) designed a little worse than 7-9 were, which is why I intend to hang onto that on my devices until I buy new ones next year.

 

[Dj64Mk7]

I have bold text enabled. The one outline is bold, while the other two are not. Inconsistency.

 

[Arndroid]

We went from edge to edge design to a an ugly, extremely rounded card view.

Huge bolded fonts that just makes me wanna gag, what happened the to the title bar?

A lot of the elements take up a lot of space as well, the menu bar for iMessages? Terrible!

I like them in they are much easier to read and locate on all accounts.

 

[zzt199]

We went from edge to edge design to a an ugly, extremely rounded card view.

Huge bolded fonts that just makes me wanna gag, what happened the to the title bar?

A lot of the elements take up a lot of space as well, the menu bar for iMessages? Terrible!

Just upgraded and hate the white-boxed notifications/widgets screen design, also why do I need to press the home button to unlock the phone? Missing iOS9's transparent design.

 

[spesifikbrush]

Just upgraded and hate the white-boxed notifications/widgets screen design, also why do I need to press the home button to unlock the phone? Missing iOS9's transparent design.

Go to Accesibility and Home Button. You can choose Rest to wake there

 

[mthomas184]

Just upgraded and hate the white-boxed notifications/widgets screen design, also why do I need to press the home button to unlock the phone? Missing iOS9's transparent design.

Go to Settings > Accessiblilty > Home button and you can change it back to iOS 9 style

And the notifications I agree with. I really still miss the old iOS 5 notifications