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Technerd108

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I have seen a few threads on this issue but no answers so I am posting this. I have even chatted with Apple support and they gave me terminal commands that didn't work. None of the threads or terminal commands work on the M1 based Macs and auto boot is really annoying. I have had my laptop power on after I shut it down?

I am looking for someone who has been able to solve this problem on a MBP M1 Pro Mac. Thank You!
 
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chabig

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I think the setting you're looking for is in System Preferences > Energy Saver > "Startup automatically after a power failure"
 
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Mike Boreham

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I think the setting you're looking for is in System Preferences > Energy Saver > "Startup automatically after a power failure"
No it's is not that. If you shut down an M1 MacBook close the lid, then it will auto boot when the lid is opened, even with that setting off. Nothing to do with power failure. I havent looked for a fix for some time, so hoping something might come of this thread.
 

Slartibart

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you actually do not shutdown an M1 Macbook (actually any Macbook) when you close the lid. Would you like to keep it “awake” when closing the lid? Amphetamine offers a bunch of more granular control here. Can you please elaborate what exactly you want to achieve?
 
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white7561

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I think what he wants is so that to turn on the laptop . You need to actually press the power button. Instead of nowadays where if you turn it off and close the lid, the next time you open the lid it will turn on the laptop.

I'd rather to have it disabled as well but no infos on how to do it on M1 MacBooks as of now I think
 

James_C

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Again. It's like lift to wake. Some people prefer it. Some don't. The point is, they should've added an option to either enable it or disable it.

I get you would like the option, but Apple is trying to make it easier for people, one step rather than two. I suspect the majority of people prefer this to having the old two step process.
 

white7561

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I get you would like the option, but Apple is trying to make it easier for people, one step rather than two. I suspect the majority of people prefer this to having the old two step process.
Actually not really. All the people I've seen here using MacBooks don't like it at all. But again. It depends on the people. And since it's an option that many people like to change. They should've added a simple option to disable or enable it.

They did that with the boot chime . Why can't they do it for this?
 

James_C

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Actually not really. All the people I've seen here using MacBooks don't like it at all. But again. It depends on the people.

Well I am not sure that statement is true as the people that don't like are more likely to say so. In any case I have not seen a lot of people complain about it. I remember the days of the old Powerbooks that used to have a clasp mechanism to open the laptop- that needed both hands to open, these days the lids can be opened one hand so I can't personally see why it is an issue, apart from a vocal minority.

But I don't disagree that an option in preferences would be useful for the people that don't like the auto on system.
 

white7561

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Well I am not sure that statement is true as the people that don't like are more likely to say so. In any case I have not seen a lot of people complain about it. I remember the days of the old Powerbooks that used to have a clasp mechanism to open the laptop, these days the lids can be opened one hand so I can't personally see why it is an issue, apart from a vocal minority.
Well again as I said before. It depends on the people. Whatever it is. They should've made an option to enable or disable it. It's not that hard.. if it's like this from the start then yeah i get it. But it's a newer change that not all people want to have.

Also the auto turn on doesn't seem to have anything to do with the clasp mechanism to open the laptop

Anyways, i don't feel like this conversation is gonna go anywhere rather than spamming OP's post since it's all just opinions and way off on what the OP asked for.. so I'm gonna end it here if that's okay.
 

James_C

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Well again as I said before. It depends on the people. Whatever it is. They should've made an option to enable or disable it. It's not that hard.. if it's like this from the start then yeah i get it. But it's a newer change that not all people want to have.

Also the auto turn on doesn't seem to have anything to do with the clasp mechanism to open the laptop

You replied to quickly :) I edited my original post to agree with you, Apple should really give you an option as it would be relatively easy to do. As far as the clasp issue is concerned it used to be much more hassle to open the old Powerbooks than the mag latch system Apple uses today.
 
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white7561

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You replied to quickly I edited my original post to agree with you, Apple should really give you an option as it would be relatively easy to do. As far as the clasp issue is concerned it used to be much more hassle to open the old Powerbooks than the mag latch system Apple uses today.
Yeh. I have the notifications turned on chrome so it instantly notifies me :p . But ye it is nicer nowadays. The old clasp is a hassle to open. Not only Apple, other used to use that mechanism. So bad lol
 

Technerd108

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So there is no answer?

If you don't understand why I don't want it to turn on when I open the screen I will re-iterate what I already said. If I am cleaning the keyboard or deck of the laptop it turns on when I would like to clean before I turn it on. Secondly I have had the laptop power on when closing the lid after shutdown and once in a bag. I don't want the device to turn on when I don't know like in a bag as it could overheat. It is also simply about choice. Why have a power button if I can't use it the way I would like.
 

jdb8167

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So there is no answer?

If you don't understand why I don't want it to turn on when I open the screen I will re-iterate what I already said. If I am cleaning the keyboard or deck of the laptop it turns on when I would like to clean before I turn it on. Secondly I have had the laptop power on when closing the lid after shutdown and once in a bag. I don't want the device to turn on when I don't know like in a bag as it could overheat. It is also simply about choice. Why have a power button if I can't use it the way I would like.
I looked many months ago when I got the M1 MacBook Air and never found an answer. I did manage to make my MBA unbootable for a while which is when stopped experimenting.
 
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Technerd108

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Also no one has suggested anything helpful at all but criticized why I want to be able to turn on my MacBook with a power button instead of autoboot? If you don't understand why I want to have control after I said why and don't have anything constructive can you please not comment!! You are just adding useless information and clogging up this thread. I am not the only one who would like to be able to disable auto-boot. Unless you have information that can help please refrain for posting!!
 

Technerd108

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I looked many months ago when I got the M1 MacBook Air and never found an answer. I did manage to make my MBA unbootable for a while which is when stopped experimenting.
I understand. If you start messing with terminal commands you can make your device un-bootable by flagging to false. Apple just needs a simple toggle switch as an option or not!
 
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bill-p

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Again. It's like lift to wake. Some people prefer it. Some don't. The point is, they should've added an option to either enable it or disable it.

They did. I'm not sure that's what the OP wants, though, since they mentioned Apple support giving them some terminal commands to try.

So here's what's available beyond what Apple allows people to change:

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I'm guessing disabling lidwake may do it? I'm not going to test that though, as I do want my MacBook to wake when I open the lid. But the OP can potentially change that. At least it should prevent the computer from waking immediately when the lid is lifted.

P.S.: proximitywake seems to be for Apple Watch.
 

jdb8167

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They did. I'm not sure that's what the OP wants, though, since they mentioned Apple support giving them some terminal commands to try.

So here's what's available beyond what Apple allows people to change:

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I'm guessing disabling lidwake may do it? I'm not going to test that though, as I do want my MacBook to wake when I open the lid. But the OP can potentially change that. At least it should prevent the computer from waking immediately when the lid is lifted.

P.S.: proximitywake seems to be for Apple Watch.
Unfortunately some of those settings have changed for Apple silicon Macs. Lidwake for example does not exist on the M1MacBook Air. If you try and set it with: sudo pmset -a lidwake 0 and then try to retrieve all live settings with: pmset -g live there is no sign of the changed lidwake setting.
 

bill-p

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Good point. It seems those settings are only for Intel Macs. I just checked and it doesn't look like my M1 Pro 14" is giving more settings either. This may even be something inherent to the chip itself.

It's too bad, but I guess the specific use case of the OP may not be something Apple is considering for now.
 
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