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iPad Pro Do we suspect an A13X iPad Pro refresh in Fall? Or is Apple done with iPads for 2019? [Merged]

When will iPad Pros get any kind of upgrades?

  • By the end of 2019, like last year’s October announcment

    Votes: 102 29.1%

  • Early 2020

    Votes: 128 36.6%

  • Mid 2020

    Votes: 71 20.3%

  • Late 2020

    Votes: 49 14.0%
  • Total voters
    350
sfwalter said:
I can't imagine what they could add hardware wise to a new iPad Pro that would be a compelling upgrade over the current iPad Pros. I have never taken a single photo with my iPad Pro nor have I ever said this thing is slow.
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As mentioned before, the main target market for 2019 iPad Pros is NOT owners of 2018 iPad Pros.

However, for a new purchase as someone who doesn’t own the 2018 iPad Pro, given the choice between a 2019 $799 iPad Pro 11” 128 GB with 6 GB RAM, vs a sale-priced clearance 2018 $599 iPad Pro 11” 64 GB with 4 GB RAM, the choice for me would be very easy. I’d choose the 2019 $799 iPad Pro with 128 GB and 6 GB.
 
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sfwalter said:
I can't imagine what they could add hardware wise to a new iPad Pro that would be a compelling upgrade over the current iPad Pros. I have never taken a single photo with my iPad Pro nor have I ever said this thing is slow.
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Well...maybe not over the current ones, but over gen 1 and 2 for sure. A 4th gen iPad Pro with bumped up internals would not matter to me personally too much, but there is no harm in Apple upgrading the CPU/RAM/whatever just to keep things fresh.

For me, the iPad Pro has kind of been an anomaly as far as upgrade cycle. I just absolutely cannot resist a form factor change. I like the smaller Pros better, so I had the 9.7" model first, then couldn't resist the screen size update to 10.5", then DEFINITELY couldn't resist going from 10.5" to 11" with FaceID and completely new chassis design. But if the form factor doesn't drastically change again for a couple years, that's probably how long it will take me to upgrade again. This 2018 model is blazing fast.
 
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[Edit] MacRumors editors don't believe the document is real.

iPad Pro (2019) confirmed

The leak appears to come from a document titled "Apple Software Development Resource" which is intended to describe the iOS 13 timeline but gives away info about hardware releases.

https://twitter.com/AppleBeta2019

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JPack said:
iPad Pro (2019) confirmed

The leak appears to come from a document titled "Apple Software Development Resource" which is intended to describe the iOS 13 timeline but gives away info about hardware releases.

https://twitter.com/AppleBeta2019

EDkexI9X4AAOmB8.jpg:large
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Hopefully it is legit. In support of that though is the fact that the software build numbers and device codenames listed in those posts are correct.

I've decided the name of a revamped A12X won't be A12X Pro, because that would suggest A12X isn't Pro. Perhaps A12XS? ;) I wonder if such October iPads would be announced on September 10, or if they will be silent updates. Perhaps the latter if it really is a revamped A12X.

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Hmm... I re-read that blurb and it makes it sound like iPad 10.2" with iPadOS 13.0 for October, and iPad Pro with iPadOS 13.0.1 for release later in 2019.
 
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EugW said:
Hopefully it is legit. In support of that though is the fact that the software build numbers and device codenames listed in those posts are correct.

I've decided the name of a revamped A12X won't be A12X Pro, because that would suggest A12X isn't Pro. Perhaps A12XS? ;) I wonder if such October iPads would be announced on September 10, or if they will be silent updates. Perhaps the latter if it really is a revamped A12X.

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Hmm... I re-read that blurb and it makes it sound like iPad 10.2" with iPadOS 13.0 for October, and iPad Pro with iPadOS 13.0.1 for release later in 2019.
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MacRumors editors do not believe the document is legit, so take it with caution.

Perhaps A12X Max? :)
 
JPack said:
I submitted the link to them.
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Ah I see. Yes, the leaks are a little too convenient, so it makes sense to be skeptical. Mind you, I said elsewhere, if those leaks are fake, I applaud them, because they got the codenames and build numbers correct, and all the timelines are reasonable, so they'd have to have done their homework. Some of the English may be a little off though.
 
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007p said:
I’ve seen it mentioned elsewhere that there isn’t an A13X, so I don’t think the document being fake would mean that any new iPads won’t just be a refreshed A12X?

https://twitter.com/never_released/status/1168914409126879232?s=21
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So by 'refreshed', increased clock speeds? New GPU but bolted on to the same CPU (a la the A5X)? Same chip but built on a 5nm process (like the A5 for the iPad 2 was moved from 45nm to 32)? If it is just a minor tinkering I might wait for the 5th gen iPads and A14X (or the real 4th gen with A13X a bit later on next year?) I'm in no real hurry to upgrade...
 
EugW said:
As mentioned before, the main target market for 2019 iPad Pros is NOT owners of 2018 iPad Pros.

However, for a new purchase as someone who doesn’t own the 2018 iPad Pro, given the choice between a 2019 $799 iPad Pro 11” 128 GB with 6 GB RAM, vs a sale-priced clearance 2018 $599 iPad Pro 11” 64 GB with 4 GB RAM, the choice for me would be very easy. I’d choose the 2019 $799 iPad Pro with 128 GB and 6 GB.
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They won’t give 128gb of storage. They make money forcing you to buy 256.


Only way I see 128 base is they announce the iPhones with a base of 128.
 
Closingracer said:
They won’t give 128gb of storage. They make money forcing you to buy 256.


Only way I see 128 base is they announce the iPhones with a base of 128.
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I wish they would. The iPad Air 3 and the iPhoen XR start at 64gb. Bumping "Pro" models to 128gb would create more distinction between product lines.
 
rumz said:
I wish they would. The iPad Air 3 and the iPhoen XR start at 64gb. Bumping "Pro" models to 128gb would create more distinction between product lines.
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Lol they aren’t. Why should they ? They know if they do they will lose possible sales of the 256. At MSRP I would of bought the 256. I got a 512 cheaper then the 256. Plus with iPadOS you can use external storage much easier so less of a need I guess
 
I think there is a strong likelihood the iPad Pros will start at 128 GB beginning in 2019, now that the iPad Air 3 and iPad mini are out starting at 64 GB.

There is probably less of a chance that the iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max will start at 128 GB, but that's also a possibility.
 
EugW said:
I think there is a strong likelihood the iPad Pros will start at 128 GB beginning in 2019, now that the iPad Air 3 and iPad mini are out starting at 64 GB.

There is probably less of a chance that the iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max will start at 128 GB, but that's also a possibility.
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128GB for iPad Pro makes sense if Apple is really positioning their product as a computer replacement device. The Yoga and Surface Pro start with 256GB and 128GB base.
 
At this point, if there’s no A13X, I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce a ‘new’ pro on Tuesday.

I think with the lack of upgrades to the phone/watch it makes sense. Talk a lot about the new phone camera, then move on to iPadOS and announce a new model with the same camera setup.
 
007p said:
At this point, if there’s no A13X, I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce a ‘new’ pro on Tuesday.

I think with the lack of upgrades to the phone/watch it makes sense. Talk a lot about the new phone camera, then move on to iPadOS and announce a new model with the same camera setup.
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The lead time for ordering an engraved iPad Pro from China should tell us if we can expect new iPad Pros in September. So far, it's still 1 business day, so I would bet on October/November.
 
007p said:
At this point, if there’s no A13X, I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce a ‘new’ pro on Tuesday.

I think with the lack of upgrades to the phone/watch it makes sense. Talk a lot about the new phone camera, then move on to iPadOS and announce a new model with the same camera setup.
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I might agree, but I find it funny how we now think having no A13X means it's MORE likely that a new iPad Pro is coming. o_O
 
One thing I will guarantee you all--and AppleInsider brought this up the other day too--Apple is not going to announce all the things people want all on Tuesday. We always seem to have these huge lists of products we think are coming, and then there are always people who get disappointed when their favorite thing on the list doesn't get announced.

We will probably not see all new iPhones, iPads, iPad Pros, Apple Watches, Tile killers, AR glasses, Macbook Pros, etc. all in one event. That's just too much for an event that is really more meant for phones and wearables these days. I think we're going to see one of the following scenarios:

1) September 10th launch of new iPhones and Watch models, maybe the rumored "one more thing" at the end, then an iPad/Mac event in October like we saw last year.

2) September 10th launch of iPhone/Watch/maybe One More Thing, early 2020 iPad event for new Pros and base models.

3) September 10th launch of iPhone/Watch/maybe One More Thing, iPads are spec bumped via press release and no more media events this year.

Apple has shown in recent years that they do not mind NOT planning out a huge event for spec bumps. For example, they did not even find the iPad mini 5 to be a big enough deal to be included in an event. I'm ok with that. Digesting a million press events from September through March gets a little crazy.
 
spiderman0616 said:
One thing I will guarantee you all--and AppleInsider brought this up the other day too--Apple is not going to announce all the things people want all on Tuesday. We always seem to have these huge lists of products we think are coming, and then there are always people who get disappointed when their favorite thing on the list doesn't get announced.

We will probably not see all new iPhones, iPads, iPad Pros, Apple Watches, Tile killers, AR glasses, Macbook Pros, etc. all in one event. That's just too much for an event that is really more meant for phones and wearables these days. I think we're going to see one of the following scenarios:

1) September 10th launch of new iPhones and Watch models, maybe the rumored "one more thing" at the end, then an iPad/Mac event in October like we saw last year.

2) September 10th launch of iPhone/Watch/maybe One More Thing, early 2020 iPad event for new Pros and base models.

3) September 10th launch of iPhone/Watch/maybe One More Thing, iPads are spec bumped via press release and no more media events this year.

Apple has shown in recent years that they do not mind NOT planning out a huge event for spec bumps. For example, they did not even find the iPad mini 5 to be a big enough deal to be included in an event. I'm ok with that. Digesting a million press events from September through March gets a little crazy.
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I think most of us here understand that.

That said, I'd rather listen to spec updates than the Memojis and longwinded AR crap they keep bringing up on stage (moreso at WWDC IIRC though). About the biggest thing in AR that is actually relevant for mainstream end users in real world usage I've seen on iOS devices so far is Pokemon Go. :confused:

Sure, AR is cool and all, but they spend far too much time demo-ing totally uninteresting stuff on stage, a lot of which looks like it's still in its alpha state. It reminds me of when the first time they demo'd WatchOS. That was an utter snooze fest.

Anyhow, at this point I'm hoping for a silent RAM (6 GB), storage (128 GB minimum), and SoC (A12X Max or A13X) update for the iPad Pros Sept. 10 after the event, so that I can buy one with the Back-To-School deal with the free Beats headphones.
 
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EugW said:
I think most of us here understand that.

That said, I'd rather listen to spec updates than the Memojis and longwinded AR crap they keep bringing up on stage (moreso at WWDC IIRC though). About the biggest thing in AR that is actually relevant for mainstream end users in real world usage I've seen on iOS devices so far is Pokemon Go. :confused:

Sure, AR is cool and all, but they spend far too much time demo-ing totally uninteresting stuff on stage, a lot of which looks like it's still in its alpha state. It reminds me of when the first time they demo'd WatchOS. That was an utter snooze fest.

Anyhow, at this point I'm hoping for a silent RAM (6 GB), storage (128 GB minimum), and SoC (A12X Max or A13X) update for the iPad Pros Sept. 10 after the event, so that I can buy one with the Back-To-School deal with the free Beats headphones.
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I don't use the AR features very much in iOS, though there are some really cool games and utilities that take advantage of it. But all this AR software is building up to something big as far as new hardware.

I will say that as someone who often walks around with my cellular Series 4 Apple Watch and AirPods and leaves my iPhone at home if I'm sure I won't need a camera, AR glasses seem to be the next logical step in that kind scenario. Without getting my iPhone out of my pocket or even having it with me at all, the Apple Watch is handling all my communications, information, health monitoring, tactile feedback, audio, and voice commands. What it's not doing is showing me things in front of my eyes when I'm driving, walking somewhere I've never been, driving somewhere with GPS, etc.

As someone who wears glasses daily anyway, I'm very excited about the prospects of AR glasses. But they have to look like normal glasses and they have to work with a prescription. If they don't, I won't wear them.
 
spiderman0616 said:
One thing I will guarantee you all--and AppleInsider brought this up the other day too--Apple is not going to announce all the things people want all on Tuesday. We always seem to have these huge lists of products we think are coming, and then there are always people who get disappointed when their favorite thing on the list doesn't get announced.

We will probably not see all new iPhones, iPads, iPad Pros, Apple Watches, Tile killers, AR glasses, Macbook Pros, etc. all in one event. That's just too much for an event that is really more meant for phones and wearables these days. I think we're going to see one of the following scenarios:

1) September 10th launch of new iPhones and Watch models, maybe the rumored "one more thing" at the end, then an iPad/Mac event in October like we saw last year.

2) September 10th launch of iPhone/Watch/maybe One More Thing, early 2020 iPad event for new Pros and base models.

3) September 10th launch of iPhone/Watch/maybe One More Thing, iPads are spec bumped via press release and no more media events this year.

Apple has shown in recent years that they do not mind NOT planning out a huge event for spec bumps. For example, they did not even find the iPad mini 5 to be a big enough deal to be included in an event. I'm ok with that. Digesting a million press events from September through March gets a little crazy.
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I reckon it's 3. Simply because the phone/watch (so far, obviously could be wrong) don't seem like that much of an update. If there's no A13X, the new pros kind of need to get out sooner rather than later. Obviously an A13X could come later, but then we are also aware of an A14X so...

As for the Mac, I don't believe there is much left for this year, is there? We are aware of the new MacBook Pro, which could fit into the 'one more thing'. Then we've already had the Mac Pro announcement.

I guess there's a 4th option:

Do an ipad/Mac event later and speed through iPhone/Watch update. Spend the rest of the time talking about all their + services. That event went so well last time :rolleyes:
 
spiderman0616 said:
I don't use the AR features very much in iOS, though there are some really cool games and utilities that take advantage of it. But all this AR software is building up to something big as far as new hardware.

I will say that as someone who often walks around with my cellular Series 4 Apple Watch and AirPods and leaves my iPhone at home if I'm sure I won't need a camera, AR glasses seem to be the next logical step in that kind scenario. Without getting my iPhone out of my pocket or even having it with me at all, the Apple Watch is handling all my communications, information, health monitoring, tactile feedback, audio, and voice commands. What it's not doing is showing me things in front of my eyes when I'm driving, walking somewhere I've never been, driving somewhere with GPS, etc.

As someone who wears glasses daily anyway, I'm very excited about the prospects of AR glasses. But they have to look like normal glasses and they have to work with a prescription. If they don't, I won't wear them.
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Call me in maybe 3 years, when those AR glasses are actually viable, useful, and stylish.

I'm still waiting for an Apple watch that isn't as thick as my finger, and that came out 4 years ago.
 
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