Same exact chances as being done in the cloud and you can stop all of it's activities if you disable icloud photo library, so what's your point?
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The easy way out for them would be to do it on their own servers only and guarantee to respect their user devices privacy once and for all.
Unfortuntaley moving to private user devices feels like something bigger is planned with fighting against stored child porn just being the first icebreaker topic nobody can morally oppose.
Unfortuntaley moving to private user devices feels like something bigger is planned with fighting against stored child porn just being the first icebreaker topic nobody can morally oppose.
It's actually more secure when done on your device. That way the cloud can be encrypted fully and then nobody would be able to access your photos except for you, but okay.
Hash data would be on all devices but the searching won’t work with iCloud photos off.
I wish they would do it server side. Not on my phone. My photos should be mine, not just in responsibility, but in privacy.
But you're willing to upload your photos to that very server that is scanning them the same way your phone would?
Nope. I don’t use iCloud Photos. I use my own NAS server so I have more control over photos I want to save to my cloud. I can also do a wireless Time Machine backup of my Mac also. Why should anyone care what I do with my phone? I have nothing to hide.
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If you do all those things then this feature won’t work for you so what are you so upset about?
It’s the principal. It is my phone and my responsibility. I don’t want Apple involved with any of that. I am concerned because of the slippery slope this represents. What next? I send an iMessage to a friend about the resistance meetup in the park and Apple scans the message and the message is flagged because of a photo that goes against government guidelines. I know we all hate child molesters and predators and want them eradicated from society, but that isn’t a good enough excuse for what Apple is doing. It won’t stop child predators and sexual abuse. If Apple wants to chase child sexual abusers, they can invest their money in better more useful ways. This is just opening the door to more surveillance state. Even the ACLU was very concerned about the NDAA that every President has signed each year, even President Obama.
I think you’re thinking of something completely different. That’s the iMessage parental controls you’re thinking of and ALL of that happens only on-device. It doesn’t report to Apple or authorities. It sends a text to the parent that the kid wants to view potentially explicit content. I definitely think the parent has the right to intercept things like that.
I think you are missing the point. The photo will still be in my Camera Roll and it will be scanned by Apple, if I have iCloud Photos turned on.
Exactly, just like how apple scans the photos for the same exact content right now.
Anything you do on the internet is monitored. Do you live in some fantasy world? In iOS 15, your photos will only be hashed and compared to known CP if iCloud Photos is turned on. If you don't want that happening, don't use iCloud Photos.
Your photos were scanned before this announcement and will be scanned after this announcement. I don't get where all the hate came from suddenly.
I didn't mean you in particular but the uproar this has caused all over the web.
Unfortunately the uproar is still way too miniscule. I doubt it is going to have the impact it should have
I don't think we need to make an impact. They'll do it regardless of how many people complain and to be honest, it's really a non issue for most users.
I agree, but it shouldn‘t be.
And people should vote with their wallets in masses. But they won‘t. Apple will continue … its a shame
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Or you know... 99.99% of people don't have that type of material, so there's nothing for them to be worried about.
Its not about CSAM
Its because Pandoras Box is now open and what comes next. Its unlikely to stop with CSAM
Sounds like speculation to me. There's no reason for me to believe that Apple will change their stance.
Maybe. I just wonder: they know the implications. They know they cannot realistically withstand requests from governments (they faltered before the Chinese and Russians).
There just is no way they could.
So I wonder why they implemented this horrible thing in the first place. They cannot be so naive as to believe they could just deny.
In other words they MUST have implemented this thing in full awareness that people will be persecuted using their tool. Just a question of time.
Which is why I cannot trust them any more. Sadly, I should add
There just is no way they could.
So I wonder why they implemented this horrible thing in the first place. They cannot be so naive as to believe they could just deny.
In other words they MUST have implemented this thing in full awareness that people will be persecuted using their tool. Just a question of time.
Which is why I cannot trust them any more. Sadly, I should add
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