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Do you like using non apple browsers on the Mac?

Unless a person is using an adblocker, they are being tracked regardless of the browser they use. Every website contains "tracking pixels" that are hosted on sites that track visitors.

When you load a site, widget.com (fictitious site) in your browser, embedded in the html for that site are images (1x1 transparent pixel) that are hosted, not by widget.com but by separate site specifically for tracking visitors (eg. the person who loaded the page).
 
coffeemilktea said:
I stopped using Safari when it stopped having good extension support; the second I couldn't use uBlock Origin anymore, I switched over to Firefox. :cool:
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AND having to install a standalone program for each and every extension used in Safari is insane (or at least I think that's how it works... I only installed ONE single one -Wipr- and it was that way). I use 12 different extensions in Chrome... I don't want to have to install/monitor/update 12x separate programs just to use it in Safari... that's idiotic.
 
AlixSPQR said:
I almost never use Safari, since it doesn't support ordinary extensions, or profiles, I use Chrome instead. You are right that some websites don't work properly with Safari, and that is really annoying. I honestly can't understand the allurement with Safari other than that it is Apple's own creation. I've tested Orion, which is built upon WebKit, but it is still beta and therefore limited. I use Apple Mail, though.
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I use Safari only because things work on that that don't work on any other browser, like "hide my mail" popping up when you are asked to enter an email address. Autofill works better because it's connected to my contacts list. There are just so many things that are so much more compatible if you are a total apple user (iPhone, iPad, watch, etc). But I keep other browsers installed because some websites don't like Safari and things on those websites often won't load. And some forms to fill out on safari don't work, so I have to switch to another browser. But Safari is a lot more secure than Chrome or most other browsers. And while I prefer Apple Mail to any other third party mail program (because it's connected to photos and other apple programs that no one else has ever been able to accomplish), it is often a problem app for many people.
 
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sracer said:
Unless a person is using an adblocker, they are being tracked regardless of the browser they use. Every website contains "tracking pixels" that are hosted on sites that track visitors.

When you load a site, widget.com (fictitious site) in your browser, embedded in the html for that site are images (1x1 transparent pixel) that are hosted, not by widget.com but by separate site specifically for tracking visitors (eg. the person who loaded the page).
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What about the really secure browser like Tor?
 
Safari screwed up their extensions implementation. I wish they'd just gone along to get along this one time and made it easy (and free) for developers to create world-class extensions without extensions having to be installed as a macOS app (e.g., AdGuard, which resides in the menu bar for some reason).
 
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Expos of 1969 said:
I switched from Safari to Firefox about three years ago as Safari was not working well with a couple of websites I needed to use. Never went back to Safari.
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safari works great now, and  products,
the best scenario I can type to ya is
3 years ago was sooooo in 1991 were things were bad, falling parts, but the talent was there
woah and behold 1992 was a resurgence were things Felipe-over and paved the way for a great 1993
then 1994 was great, like now!
hopefully  wont go on a strike.

J'mais souviens!
 
Brave is my main browser on any platforms. I don't like instlaling extensions, and Brave's built-in ad blocker saves me time from doing so, especially whenever I set up a new system.
I only use Safari on sites that don't work on Brave, like Google productivity suite. Good thing Google still officially supports Safari.
 
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ian87w said:
Brave is my main browser on any platforms. I don't like instlaling extensions, and Brave's built-in ad blocker saves me time from doing so, especially whenever I set up a new system.
I only use Safari on sites that don't work on Brave, like Google productivity suite. Good thing Google still officially supports Safari.
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Why would your Brave browser not work with Google's productivity suite? That's like saying you use Safari because Google Chrome doesn't work with Google's productivity suite. Brave is literally Chromium. You probably need to disable some of your Brave shields like fingerprinting. If a website works with Google, it should work with Brave.
 
Choco Taco said:
Why would your Brave browser not work with Google's productivity suite? That's like saying you use Safari because Google Chrome doesn't work with Google's productivity suite. Brave is literally Chromium. You probably need to disable some of your Brave shields like fingerprinting. If a website works with Google, it should work with Brave.
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Ask Google. Google Docs and Sheets are buggy in Brave. The bugs are documented as well, but who knows if Google would do anything as Brave is not on their official supported browser. Google specifies specific supported browser, like Edge. Being Chromium doesn’t guarantee compatibility.
 
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ian87w said:
Ask Google. Google Docs and Sheets are buggy in Brave. The bugs are documented as well, but who knows if Google would do anything as Brave is not on their official supported browser. Google specifies specific supported browser, like Edge. Being Chromium doesn’t guarantee compatibility.
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That's true. On the surface Chromium looks like Chrome, but Google puts in a lot of proprietary things into its own browser (besides spyware, no need to OCD repeat that, please), so Chromium based browsers are not equivalent to Chrome under the hood, so to speak. I have tested most Chromium based browsers, besides the regular ones also Woolyss, for instance. They are never as slick or dependable as Chrome.
 
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ian87w said:
Ask Google. Google Docs and Sheets are buggy in Brave. The bugs are documented as well, but who knows if Google would do anything as Brave is not on their official supported browser. Google specifies specific supported browser, like Edge. Being Chromium doesn’t guarantee compatibility.
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That's bizarre. Oh well. Have you tried the suite with Brave beta or nightly?
 
I just downloaded Orion. I liked what people said in this thread, that it is better Safari and wanted to give it a try, I loved Safari until it was crippled.

First site that I wanted to visit with it was this forum and already problems, when I click on notifications and click on one of them, nothing happens, just infinite loading.

Not good first impression for me. :(

EDIT: works now. But it says it's in beta, so I guess some things can be forgiven. I'll keep it for now.
 
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Nermal said:
Safari's been my primary browser since the public beta, and I have no other browsers installed. If I find a site that doesn't work properly then I hit Back and pick a different site.
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Mac OS Public Beta or Safari public Beta? If memory serves me correctly Safari didn't exist until Jaguar, or maybe even Panther.
 
Nermal said:
Safari's been my primary browser since the public beta, and I have no other browsers installed. If I find a site that doesn't work properly then I hit Back and pick a different site.
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Bit tricky if the only version of the content is on that site....

Unless of course you don't want to view that content there, in which case why did you bother going to that site...
 
ItWasNotMe said:
Bit tricky if the only version of the content is on that site....

Unless of course you don't want to view that content there, in which case why did you bother going to that site...
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Exactly. If there are websites I must use such as government services, taxes etc. I will dump a browser for a better one. I did so with no regrets at all.
 
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I typically alternate between Safari and Firefox. I never had any issues with Chrome other than I'm somewhat concerned about my privacy with using it. I've tried Brave and Edge as well.
 
jwolf6589 said:
I dont know about you but I hate it when I am forced to use a non apple browser on the Mac such as Chrome or Firefox. Some websites don't work properly with Safari and in these situations I need to use one. I also hate using non apple based email clients and much prefer using apple Mail. MS outlook does have its advantages but in reality it's a better product on Windows. You?
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What makes you hate it? Safari isn't the best browser on macOS. It's not as fast as Firefox and lacks good extension support.
 
VertPin said:
What makes you hate it? Safari isn't the best browser on macOS. It's not as fast as Firefox and lacks good extension support.
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Firefox is not faster, it's just ublock origin. If you use ublock origin on Chrome will be even faster than Firefox.
Safari is fast, but adblockers slow it.
 
VertPin said:
What makes you hate it? Safari isn't the best browser on macOS. It's not as fast as Firefox and lacks good extension support.
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It also has some issues running out of memory on some websites. It’s the only reason I have FF and Chrome installed on Mac.
 
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