Safari public beta, which was for 10.2. The "final" version of Safari was included with 10.3.
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It doesn’t update everyday.
It’s far from the best. I can’t get use to it and I never liked it. I use Firefox on everything, and all of my bookmarks sync on all of my device (iOS, Mac, Windows, Linux, and Android). Firefox Facebook Container and the other containers are a huge sellings point for me also.
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I've been using Firefox since 2001 and I have yet to see a website not work on it. And I've been a web developer since 2008 and Safari is the primary browser where devs need to tweak stuff because it doesn't support stuff the way it should. It's tiny stuff but I wouldn't consider Safari as superior. It's nice but in the end it's a question of preferences. Firefox used to be kinda laggy on macOS but that was years ago and for some reason it kept that reputation even though it is really fast and efficient now.
And about Safari on iOS, it's quite bad. It's preventing the web to evolve in different ways and while I'm not into Apple opening up the App Store to third-parties or Google being able to suck even more market share on iOS with a *real* Chrome with Blink, I do think it will be great when Apple opens up the ability to have different browsers engine on iOS.
The web needs engines diversity to prevent Chrome shaping it the way they want to collect even more data from us and prevent Apple blocking new features so that apps are more attractive.
My 2 cents.
And about Safari on iOS, it's quite bad. It's preventing the web to evolve in different ways and while I'm not into Apple opening up the App Store to third-parties or Google being able to suck even more market share on iOS with a *real* Chrome with Blink, I do think it will be great when Apple opens up the ability to have different browsers engine on iOS.
The web needs engines diversity to prevent Chrome shaping it the way they want to collect even more data from us and prevent Apple blocking new features so that apps are more attractive.
My 2 cents.
Wipr doesn't slow down Safari whatsoever. The desktop version of AdGuard doesn't either.
What are people experiences like using Firefox on a M1 MBP? I liked using Firefox on my Linux machine and was hoping to have a similar experience on a Mac.
What are you using for ad-blocking ? I find Ad Guard slows down Safari, and don't know of a good alternative, paid or free.
I'd like to add something to my previous answer (which concerned my daily driver): Thanks to Chromium Legacy I have an up to date browser on my older macs with El Capitan. Some DRM restrictions and a few bugs, but it works surprisingly well, nonetheless.
Uh, no. I am not changing my bank after 30+ years because their website won't support Safari.
Why?
Chrome simply has many advantages (and some disadvantages.). Cross platform is the biggest selling point for me. I use PCs for work and play, and using Chrome allows me to sync my settings, and bookmarks across every device. I found Safari to be problematic on some sites, that it just wasn't worth using both on my Mac. I get a consistent feel and experience with Chrome
On the Mac only it's true that Safari does have some issues. For example the "out of memory" error I get sometimes on FB and other sites. However keychain, bookmarks, and settings do sync over to the iPad and iPhone. I have ZERO problems with Safari for the other apple devices.
On my MacBook Air, I am using a combination of Wipr, DuckDuckGo Privacy, Hush (blocks cookie consent) together with the Lockdown VPN app (blocks all kinds of trackers + stops Facebook et al.). Works great and greatly increases the surfing speed as lots of stuff is not even loaded when accessing different sites.
OK, both of you are on Wipr. I'll get that and report back.
My family uses Youtube Prime, so no ads, but safari's so disappointingly laggy on YT. It's probably to do with https not allowing cache to work like it did back in the old http days. Still, moving away from Ad Guard alone will be a plus.
Safari is laggy on a lot of things lately. I'm using Brave, personally. Has ad blocking and fingerprint protection built in. Don't need to worry about installing ad blockers. Wipr is great for Safari, though.
If you value your bank more than your own privacy and security then good for you.
People underestimate how much a bank already knows about them. Switching a browser because of their bank doesn’t predicate a loss of that data anyway, or the prevention of the collection of new and exciting data.
Safari isn’t the best browser, and there’s variance across peoples‘ tastes.
One MAJOR advantage to Safari that I forgot to mention in my OP is ApplePay on the Mac and IPad. My left finger can do many marvels. Many websites accept ApplePay. For example one can order Pizza via Dominoes, pay medical bills, pay cable bills, and what not and just use your left finger on a MacBook Pro or iPad Mini 6. It sure beats entering in credit card information! Sadly not all sites take Apple Pay but hopefully this will change over the years.
I have. My power utility’s site doesn’t play nice with Safari. So, to pay my bill and keep the lights on, I use Firefox. That’s just the choice I’ve made.
I came from Ad Guard (paid version), and now using wipr + Control-D. It’s been few weeks and the experience is much better (lighter and faster) than Ad Guard (it’s also faster than nextdns.io).