Do you miss not being able to run Windows on your M1 Mac?

[Roxy.music]

Do you miss not being able to run Windows on your M1 Mac? I don,t mean running a Virtual on there. After many tries of getting Windows on an external drive, i decided to try once again. As soon I did the updates on it it went back into m Mac.I thought I would try making that the main drive to boot, needless to say, I had the usual problems with my machine having problems to start up. So I tried all the stuff they give you to get it starting again i went for the one about removing the files that went to 3% and got stuck there so i tried once more and it said preparing that worked after a few minutes I did the nonstop updates that Windows does and crossed my fingers to hope it works so far so good. How long i don,t know. Never had much luck getting an external Windows drive on my 2017 5k iMac.I had no problem with having one on my 2012 Mac Mini.I dare say there are quite a few of you who still have an Intel Mac. As well as the M1 Mac.

 

[Maconplasma]

Do you miss not being able to run Windows on your M1 Mac?

If you miss running Windows then you're buying the wrong computer. Macs should be running only MacOS. That's what they are designed for. Bootcamp back in the day was when Apple needed to get Macs into more people's hands. Today it's commonplace to own a Mac and Apple no longer needs to cater to the small demographic that wants to run Windows. There are plenty of Windows machines on the market with many choice configurations. I do not understand this argument because if anyone misses running Windows on their Mac then they weren't using MacOS very much in the first place.

 

[Tchakatak]

I actually find that a MacBook can make a perfect windows machine. I haven never done it but, i do understand that purpose.

 

[pldelisle]

I do not understand this argument because if anyone misses running Windows on their Mac then they weren't using MacOS very much in the first place.

While this is true for normal consumers, as a developer, I disagree. When you are developing a cross-platform product, you *need* to have all three OSes running on the same computer. The Mac was very nice for this. But Windows ARM is certainly coming with Parallels. No worries here.

 

[Maconplasma]

I actually find that a MacBook can make a perfect windows machine. I haven never done it but, i do understand that purpose.

I don't understand the purpose (other than using VM's for business purposes as another member mentioned) because over the many years the common argument people made against Macs is, "I can get a Windows PC with better specs for less money". There's no good reason for Apple to continue designing Macs with Bootcamp when there are plenty of Windows machines on the market.

 

[Maconplasma]

While this is true for normal consumers, as a developer, I disagree. When you are developing a cross-platform product, you *need* to have all three OSes running on the same computer. The Mac was very nice for this. But Windows ARM is certainly coming with Parallels. No worries here.

Point well taken but I don't think the majority here wanting a Mac to run Windows are coders. Many of them just want to run Windows on them full time.

 

[satcomer]

The problem with Microsoft is the Arm Version is running faster Windows Arm then most pure Windows Arm devices! Microdot even promised a faster version!

Here is video about getting a Arm Windows version on your M1 Mac:

 

[JeepGuy]

Point well taken but I don't think the majority here wanting a Mac to run Windows are coders. Many of them just want to run Windows on them full time.

One of the reasons the company I work for did this, was because of the high residual value after 2 years which meant a lower lease payment, we would get new laptops every 2 years. Sadly they stopped doing this when the whole butterfly keyboard fiasco happened.

 

[BeatCrazy]

Nope.

I have Windows computers if I need them (rarely).

BTW, with the Microsoft Remote Desktop macOS app, you can easily buy a smallish Windows PC, stick it on a shelf somewhere and just remote-into it from your Mac. No fussing with Bootcamp drivers, weird VM behavior, etc.

 

[haralds]

We are doing cross platform development using Macs with VMs (VMware or Parallels.)
I have been able to build our rather large app without trouble on the preview build of Windows ARM64. Office 365 and games also work just fine.
I also have BootCamp on my Intel Macs, but have rarely used that.

 

[jerryk]

Not at all. Every time I have tried to Windows on a Mac there have been too many compromises when compared to running on a dedicated Windows machine. The latest driver availability was a big issue. Also for some fields like Machine Learning, the lack of Nvidia GPUs is an issue.

 

[Roxy.music]

If you miss running Windows then you're buying the wrong computer. Macs should be running only MacOS. That's what they are designed for. Bootcamp back in the day was when Apple needed to get Macs into more people's hands. Today it's commonplace to own a Mac and Apple no longer needs to cater to the small demographic that wants to run Windows. There are plenty of Windows machines on the market with many choice configurations. I do not understand this argument because if anyone misses running Windows on their Mac then they weren't using MacOS very much in the first place.

No i have got it for gamming ,like most of the people who have it on there Mac.
Not that i have done any yet on there.
Plus the fact i have a lot of drives.
A lot of people do have Windows on there Mac,s.
Winclone will be going out of business.

 

[Roxy.music]

The problem with Microsoft is the Arm Version is running faster Windows Arm then most pure Windows Arm devices! Microdot even promised a faster version!

Here is video about getting a Arm Windows version on your M1 Mac:

It looks good even at this early stage of the game.I will have to wait and see how it pans out.

 

[tdar]

I run windows on my M1mac every day. Parallels with windows 10 for Arm.

 

[pldelisle]

I run windows on my M1mac every day. Parallels with windows 10 for Arm.

It’s still experimental. Not stable from either Parallels and Windows, and licensing isn’t ready yet on Windows. But it will come soon.

 

[Roxy.music]

It’s still experimental. Not stable from either Parallels and Windows, and licensing isn’t ready yet on Windows. But it will come soon.

That is so true ,it has a long way to go before it is viable on the M1 Mac.

 

[Roxy.music]

I run windows on my M1mac every day. Parallels with windows 10 for Arm.

My post is about having it on the Mac ie Bootcamp on the internal drive, or on a external drive like myself.

 

[Traverse]

You can still remote connect to Windows computers and servers, but as far as native Windows I personally do not.

Outside of one statistics class in college in 2014, I've never had a piece of software that had to be run that wasn't either (1) cloud-based or (2) had both a usable Mac and Windows version (even if the Windows version was better). For some reason, having Windows installed was important to me - even if I never used it and purchased 4 VMWare Fusion licenses over the years.

When I did a clean install of Catalina I decided I not to reinstall Windows out of laziness and realized now that outside of occasionally booting it to see what's new, I have no need for it. I don't game nor do I have any software needs. There was no real value in that "safety net" for my uses.

 

[Roxy.music]

You can still remote connect to Windows computers and servers, but as far as native Windows I personally do not.

Outside of one statistics class in college in 2014, I've never had a piece of software that had to be run that wasn't either (1) cloud-based or (2) had both a usable Mac and Windows version (even if the Windows version was better). For some reason, having Windows installed was important to me - even if I never used it and purchased 4 VMWare Fusion licenses over the years.

When I did a clean install of Catalina I decided I not to reinstall Windows out of laziness and realized now that outside of occasionally booting it to see what's new, I have no need for it. I don't game nor do I have any software needs. There was no real value in that "safety net" for my uses.

I have got VMWARE Fusion16 but only really to get it on a xternal drive.I understand from watching videos on youtube that says Parallels Desktop is the better of the two thats probberly why they have been the first out with the Technical Preview.Which looks like you could be able to play games on it in the future.
I have a Pi to do all the Linux os systems i do love Twister OS.

This guy is good. Games in the web browser

 

[hovscorpion12]

I don't, No. I have a ShadowPC Infinite account, so I can load Windows 10 in seconds. Shadow is working on an ARM M1 app (not sure how different it would be from the Intel app since its streaming a VM)

 

[OSB]

I don’t.

When the intel transition happened and bootcamp came out, it solved a lot of problems for Mac users. Macs were second-class citizens in the corporate world, remote and thin-client tools were ****, and cross-platform software was often either not available or garbage.

None of that is really true anymore, and I think for a lot of people who were dual-booting, it’s just not as big a deal now. When debating moving to the M1, I realized I could not recall the last time I booted Win10 or loaded a VM for anything other than gaming.

it’s a bummer to lose some of the more obscure PC games, but it’s not a deal-breaker for me.

 

[PinoRavvit]

Point well taken but I don't think the majority here wanting a Mac to run Windows are coders. Many of them just want to run Windows on them full time.

Why would you buy a Mac just to run Windows, though?

 

[OSB]

Why would you buy a Mac just to run Windows, though?

There was a time in late-00s / early-10s when Apple's laptops were so much better than their Wintel counterparts that it wasn't uncommon to see enthusiasts doing just that. I don't think that's very common any longer - I certainly don't know anyone still doing it - because, at least at comparable price levels, Wintel machines have closed the gap significantly.

M1 changes that landscape, maybe, but not in ways that are useful to someone looking for a Win10-primary machine, at least not right now.

 

[Maconplasma]

Why would you buy a Mac just to run Windows, though?

Ha my thoughts exactly but that's exactly what a lot of Windows users have been trying to do over several years, which is stupid IMO.

 

[Roxy.music]

I don't, No. I have a ShadowPC Infinite account, so I can load Windows 10 in seconds. Shadow is working on an ARM M1 app (not sure how different it would be from the Intel app since its streaming a VM)

Just looked it up i never heard of it before.