You might doubt it, but if iOS dropped on a 5" screen tomorrow, there would be a huge exodus to the iPhone.
If Apple sold something like this, I would not own a GS4 right now.
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You might doubt it, but if iOS dropped on a 5" screen tomorrow, there would be a huge exodus to the iPhone.
If Apple sold something like this, I would not own a GS4 right now.
The 5s is looking more and more disappointing if any of this is accurate:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...nt-reveals-the-phones-new-features_id47229#4-
Not even an upgrade to the back camera mega pixels? But this article predicts 12mp upgrade.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...ures-of-the-seventh-generation-iPhone_id46538
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...nt-reveals-the-phones-new-features_id47229#4-
Not even an upgrade to the back camera mega pixels? But this article predicts 12mp upgrade.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...ures-of-the-seventh-generation-iPhone_id46538
That's what I meant, disappointing. Coming from a N4 and (now returned) GS4 I just can't imagine coming back to such an 'antiquated' device, let alone paying 679 for it.
I jumped from Android late last year to the iPhone 5 when that came out. I was worried about all the apps I bought on Android and the fact I would have to purchase all of them again on iOS, but once you have them, its no big deal. I got a good price for my Samsung Galaxy S3 and noticed the positive difference as soon as I got the iP5. I couldn't be happier. 
Everybody has different needs though. I certainly wouldn't make a decision on where to jump to until you have seen all the players in the equation. I would suggest a hands on go with each device.
Everybody has different needs though. I certainly wouldn't make a decision on where to jump to until you have seen all the players in the equation. I would suggest a hands on go with each device.
Yeah that second article sounds like they are guessing what features it will have.
I'd rather have a lower aperture sensor than just adding megapixels--8 mp is more than needed unless you're using your phone for supersized photos.
Regardless, everything else just screams underwhelming so does a minor change in camera really matter? I'll be keeping an eye on the proceedings tomorrow but this is easily the least excitement I've had for an Apple announcement/unveiling.
Given what other companies are coming out with its a surprise certainly. They better bring something big for iPhone 6.as right now they are lagging behind.
I think the 5S will be a better upgrade than people think (because of course, if the numbers on a spec sheet don't go up, its a fail update ....).
I also think the key feature focus (aside from iOS 7 and the fingerprint sensor) will be BATTERY LIFE.
All the rumors point to a relatively small 30% power boost in the new SoC, but Apple is also adding a 8.5% increase in battery capacity. These two things, coupled with new software features that help mitigate battery efficiency and the possibility of IGZO could mean we see a sizable increase in battery life.
Take this year's MBA as an example. Relatively low power boost, but a HUGE gain in battery life. Perhaps Apple thinks the iPhone 5 has plenty of power and has now turned to maximizing battery efficiency?
My guesses - only a day left to wait and see now. Being disappointed before the announcement even happens is ludicrous.
....).I also think the key feature focus (aside from iOS 7 and the fingerprint sensor) will be BATTERY LIFE.
All the rumors point to a relatively small 30% power boost in the new SoC, but Apple is also adding a 8.5% increase in battery capacity. These two things, coupled with new software features that help mitigate battery efficiency and the possibility of IGZO could mean we see a sizable increase in battery life.
Take this year's MBA as an example. Relatively low power boost, but a HUGE gain in battery life. Perhaps Apple thinks the iPhone 5 has plenty of power and has now turned to maximizing battery efficiency?
My guesses - only a day left to wait and see now. Being disappointed before the announcement even happens is ludicrous.
I can't tell you how much I miss my iPhone 5 running iOS 7 running now....
My 4S feels stubby and outdated
Funny though I don't feel that way when switching between my GS4 and the 5. Sure the 4" screen is smaller, but it didn't FEEL bad. I actually quite preferred it on a regular basis.
I think the 16:9 aspect ratio is the key here....going back to 3:2 on a phone doesn't work for me. And I didn't realize how much I liked iOS 7 until I was back on iOS 6.....
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I think the 5S will be a better upgrade than people think (because of course, if the numbers on a spec sheet don't go up, its a fail update
I also think the key feature focus (aside from iOS 7 and the fingerprint sensor) will be BATTERY LIFE.
All the rumors point to a relatively small 30% power boost in the new SoC, but Apple is also adding a 8.5% increase in battery capacity. These two things, coupled with new software features that help mitigate battery efficiency and the possibility of IGZO could mean we see a sizable increase in battery life.
Take this year's MBA as an example. Relatively low power boost, but a HUGE gain in battery life. Perhaps Apple thinks the iPhone 5 has plenty of power and has now turned to maximizing battery efficiency?
My guesses - only a day left to wait and see now. Being disappointed before the announcement even happens is ludicrous.
Are people clamouring for better battery life in the iPhone though? IMO, battery life is one area where the iPhone isn't deficient. People generally aren't moving from iOS to Android due to it's superior battery performance. It's only been recent generations of Android devices that were finally offering good to great battery life.
Yes, better battery life is always welcome. My point is though that Apple is focusing on areas that aren't really a problem. Take a poll of consumers using something other than iOS and ask them what it would take to have them return to the iPhone and I suspect better battery performance wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the list.
And I'll agree it's foolish to be prematurely dissappointed. That being said, leaks of new features over the past few years have been pretty accurate and Apple really hasn't surprised us in a pretty long time, and thus the tempered enthusiasm you may be seeing.
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I can't tell you how much I miss my iPhone 5 running iOS 7 running now....
My 4S feels stubby and outdated
Funny though I don't feel that way when switching between my GS4 and the 5. Sure the 4" screen is smaller, but it didn't FEEL bad. I actually quite preferred it on a regular basis.
I think the 16:9 aspect ratio is the key here....going back to 4:3 on a phone doesn't work for me. And I didn't realize how much I liked iOS 7 until I was back on iOS 6.....
The 4S has 3:2 aspect ratio.
Apple doesn't operate that way IMO. The things people who don't use iOS want are things I doubt Apple would add AT ALL (though I do think they move to larger screens next year).
I suppose I just don't have the expectations of my phones that many of you have. I thought the iPhone 5 was a nice upgrade, despite the vitriol Apple received for it. I think many rely too much on numbers on a spec sheet and fail to actually do some digging to find out what ACTUALLY has been upgraded.
For Apple, it's all about efficiency. If they have the iPhone optimized to the point where they feel more power is unnecessary, they'll stop making huge CPU improvements.
People can always go for more battery life. Which is why I think Apple, in lieu of beefing up the processor to a quad-core chip, will go for added battery life.
Most of the reasons I've seen people give for moving away from iPhone/iOS are either software related or have to do with the screen size. The first really won't change much in that Apple's and Google's philosophies differ greatly on the presentation and implementation of software goes. The second will be addressed in 2014 IMO because Apple's working to re-align the iPhone line.
This year they add the cheaper version (because they see it as the fastest way to gain more marketshare in places like China - just so happens to coincide with the China Mobile deal - not coincidental). Next year they add the larger iPhone to the mix and instead of seeing 1 new product every year with the older models serving as the cheaper versions, we'll see 3 updates each year.
Just can't (won't) release 2 BRAND NEW phones in one year, which is why they stagger it out like this.
Just my thoughts anyways.
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Right - I thought this as I typed it out. Has been fixed, thanks.
I think the whole innovation craze in the mobile market has reached a plateau and people have expectations far beyond what we can realistically expect. The iPhone at present is a great product and satisfies many people worldwide, any adjustments are welcome of course, but my demands seem a lot less than many. I really don't know what Apple have to do to satisfy everybody? Larger screen, no thanks, but I feel they could make these adjustments and it still wouldn't be enough. If people don't like the iPhone then cheerio and buy something that fulfils the needs. It really is that simple IMO.
I am probably way off here and not as informed as most in this forum but I feel Apple just keeps giving nibbles of what they can actually do instead of living up to their potential.
I understand from a business model that its pretty ingenius.The Apple followers will almost buy anything they put out to a certain extent but to sway new buyers and show off what they are capable of they hold back.
I love Apple and their products. I have most of them. A couple years ago I got tired of the minimal releases on their phones and gave the S3 a try. I was blown away at all the customization and the screen size that I never had before from owning an iPhone since it came out.
I may go back to an iPhone but only when it suits my needs more than an Android device.
I feel Apple could easily make the biggest, best, and fastest smartphone in the world but they choose not to because they dont have to...yet.
I understand from a business model that its pretty ingenius.The Apple followers will almost buy anything they put out to a certain extent but to sway new buyers and show off what they are capable of they hold back.
I love Apple and their products. I have most of them. A couple years ago I got tired of the minimal releases on their phones and gave the S3 a try. I was blown away at all the customization and the screen size that I never had before from owning an iPhone since it came out.
I may go back to an iPhone but only when it suits my needs more than an Android device.
I feel Apple could easily make the biggest, best, and fastest smartphone in the world but they choose not to because they dont have to...yet.
I won't sit here and preach that one OS is better than another because, as you pointed out, it's largely based on preference. And I personally don't expect Apple to please everybody--has never been there m.o. But I don't think anyone can argue that significantly higher numbers of high end Android devices are being sold every year, with significantly more new Android users vs. iOS. Yes, there are dozens of cheaper Android handsets that go for next to nothing but at the same time, the huge increases in sales of Android flagships is being seen every year. Apple is losing sales opportunities and the message consumers see from the media more and more, is that the iPhone is losing it's luster vs. the competition. And IMO, they aren't doing anything to stem the tide.
Saying innovation has reached a plateau is nonsense and I see it spoken by iPhone users all the time. You personally may find no need for further advances (though I doubt that) but millions of others don't. Look at what's come out just recently--LG's knock on/off feature and the ability to pair your phone to your tablet to manage calls. How about Motorola's latest offerings in their newest devices. I'd argue that Active Notification, always on voice recognition and Moto assist are some of the best innovations we've seen in a while. And now they're also taking a page out of Apple's playbook by focusing on optimization rather than beating an OS into submission with high power specs. That's been Apple's strength until now--what happens when other realize this benefit, and they offer so much beyond it? Where is Apple's advantage then?
There will always be millions of Apple customer who love what they offer and that's great. My concern for Apple is that they seem to just be treading water while their competition is swimming right past them. I was your typical diehard Apple fan for many, many years--all of the tech in our house was from Apple and I wouldn't consider anyone else because Apple could do no wrong. I looked forward to these announcements and product unveilings and couldn't wait to see what they'd offer next. But over the past year, that's changed and it truly makes me a bit sad. I've found better options for my phone and will likely not be getting another iPad this year, after owning all previous versions. If this happened to me, it can certainly happen to other Apple consumers. In fact, I see it happening more and more all the time. My family and friends were predominantly Apple users but now even my tech illiterate mom and sister are considering make a change after seeing what else is out there.
I'm at MacRumors quite a bit but guess which forum I spend most of my time in. I'd like to get excited about Apple products again, just don't see it happening anytime soon.
I agree with this 100% and I felt the same way when I switched to Android as well.
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I still own an iPad and a MacBook but I don't see myself going back to using an iPhone anytime soon. iOS is so restrictive, and you become aware of how restrictive it is when you're a long time iPhone user and you experience Android for the first time.
The mistake is to expect Apple to make changes and innovate at the pace we think they should.
There's a lot that Apple is sitting on that, when it comes to pass, could blow any of their competitors out of the water. The point RealDeal was making is a great one - consumers expect some huge innovation every year and that's simply not realistic.
What's happened is that innovation had become cheapened. So gimmicky features that look really cool in a showroom, but ultimately don't have any effect on the way people use their phones become innovations, but because Apple doesn't play that game they are "behind".
I'm not saying other companies aren't doing a great job. Android has come a long way IMO and is a great option. But if you actually look at handset sales and compared the iPhone line to ANY other smartphone line in the world, no one comes close STILL. And we've been hearing about Apple's demise for the last 2+ years.
Truth is, Android owns the market share because they're willing to go cheap and there are TONS of low-end handset that make up a big bulk or Android activations.
But compare the sales of Samsung's galaxy line to the iPhone line over the same timeframe, and the iPhone is still the king. Heck, the iPhone 5 was still almost outselling the GS4 when it first came out....
Apple is fine and will be fine. I prefer to let them do their thing than whine and complain they aren't "innovating" fast enough for me. The iPhone does everything I need it to do. Would I welcome improvements and features? Absolutely! But I also trust Apple isn't going to release some half-assed feature just to be first. And I commend them for it.
So I know, when I see an iWatch that pairs with your iPhone using biometric sensors and all sorts of other nifty tech or an iPhone made of liquidmetal that's waterproof - I'll know these products have been optimized and are as efficient as they can be.....
And I'm fine waiting the extra year or so it takes Apple to make sure of that. Call me a fanboy if you want.....I'm just content with my devices and understand that for true innovation, you have to WAIT.
agreed, it's why I love android now. the way it doesn't restrict you is great. being able to swap batteries on phones, use multitasking spilt windows is exactly what you want on a 10 inch tablet. being able to drag and move tv shows and films on your phone/tablet without worrying about GB space is huge..until apple add those features i won't consider buying anything apple over android/Samsung. I'm now set to sell my ipad 2 for a galaxy note 10.1 2014..and it's for the reasons ive stated.
I find it funny that those who've switched to Android from iOS feel the need to assume how the rest of us feel about iOS and Android.
Just so you know, I started using Android this year after being on the iPhone since the 3GS and in no way did I experience some new freedom in Android that I didn't have in iOS....
Because frankly, I don't care about half the stuff Android supposedly lets me do. I also happen to know/look up how to do many of the things Android users claim are impossible on an iPhone.
To each his own, but what irks me is when people feel the need to "justify" their switch by saying "Well iOS was just so restricting, I had to switch and Android has been amazing". When the reality in all likelihood is they were just bored and wanted something shiny and new.
And I find ZERO fault with people who feel that way! Because that's exactly why I added an Android phone to my device lineup. I had the opportunity to use 2 phones and wanted to try new things. And I've gone through 3 Android phones since Feb because I just want to try the new, shiny thing out.
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I wasn't aware that Android phones had unlimited storage space.....can you tell me how I can turn on this feature?
Obviously I'm talking about SD card space...why apple refuse to give in to that god knows.
Because they offer services that make the use of an SD Card superfluous. Also, the lack of a traditional file system would make it difficult to locate what was on the SD Card.
Point being though, you still have to worry about GB at a certain point. If I had a 64 GB iPhone, I'd have to worry about space when I got close. Same with if I had a 128 GB iPad....or a GS4 with 64GB on board and a 64 GB SD Card.
Sure I could continue to buy SD Cards....but that could get expensive.
Rather just let iCloud store all my stuff and pull them down when I want to listen/watch.