If you approach a smart phone as if it were a desktop computer, then yes, it needs more RAM. However, if you see it for what it really is, a phone, then the current RAM situation is fine. Always select the right tool for the job.
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Does anybody think iOS 9 will help negate the need for more RAM?
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If you approach a smart phone as if it were a desktop computer, then yes, it needs more RAM. However, if you see it for what it really is, a phone, then the current RAM situation is fine. Always select the right tool for the job.
If you approach a smart phone as if it were a desktop computer, then yes, it needs more RAM. However, if you see it for what it really is, a phone, then the current RAM situation is fine. Always select the right tool for the job.
It is supposed to be a premium smartphone, not a phone.
Apple are well aware that many millions of iPhones out there are not the latest and greatest. I'm sorry but there is just no defence for it. People should be made painfully aware that the 'update' will change their phone for the worst.
If you approach a smart phone as if it were a desktop computer, then yes, it needs more RAM. However, if you see it for what it really is, a phone, then the current RAM situation is fine. Always select the right tool for the job.
Eh?
You're saying the iPhone should just stagnate because it's a phone? How silly.
The iPhone is a premium smartphone and needs to offer a stellar user experance in order to remain successful, and to do that it needs more RAM.
Eh?
You're saying the iPhone should just stagnate because it's a phone? How silly.
The iPhone is a premium smartphone and needs to offer a stellar user experance in order to remain successful, and to do that it needs more RAM.
Still, premium smartphone != desktop computer.
The problem is that some folks equate smartphone with desktop performance.. and this will always yield disappointment.
So you are happy for Apple to leave out some extra RAM costing a few bucks when it's the ONLY thing making the phone perform badly?
What's your obsession with categorising things? It's doesn't make the blindest bit of difference to the answer. Smartphones are neither desktop computers or phones. It's not a difficult concept to grasp but you seem to be struggling with it.
You couldn't be more wrong. Android phones manage it, and my old iPhone 5 managed it. So why can't the latest iPhone?
My iPhones have always performed well for me because I look at them as smartphones, not desktop computers. Perhaps if you viewed a smartphone as a smartphone, then your opinion would vastly improve.
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Comparing Android to iOS is like comparing a Volkswagen to a Ferrari. I was an Android developer for years. Trust me, that system is junk.
I'm smart phone retarded and can't imagine why you need to do all those at once, but seeing how Apple prides itself as being the best you should be able to. Would doubling the ram make that much difference or should it be 3GB?
iPhone 5 - 32bit
iPhone 6 - 64bit
iPhone6+ - 64bit plus HD 5.5" screen, plus desktop scaler.
All three phones have 1GB of RAM and they use more RAM the lower you get down the list.
So in effect the 2 year old iPhone 5 has more RAM than the current iPhone 6 and the most expensive iPhone, the 6+, has the least RAM.
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2GB would be twice as good, but it would be the bare minimum. Therefore that is all Apple will give us. If it had 3GB we wouldn't need to upgrade for ages.
And yet my iPhone 5 ran 8.0 perfectly fine as well as my iPad Air. I've since sold both of those devices, but I imagine things have only improved since then with 8.1, 8.2, and 8.3. Not to mention, the latest poll on this forum shows that a majority of users are indeed happy with iOS 8 now.
So no, people don't need to be made "painfully aware" of something that may or may not happen. Of course, every iOS device you use seems to have dozens of issues with it, so I can understand why you feel the way you do. But you've been told time and time again that your experience is not the norm.
Before anybody jumps down my throat, I'm not discounting those that have issues. I do think that a higher percentage of users are experiencing issues with iOS 8 than past versions. But it's still a small number of users outside of forums like this one where many people visit for the sole purpose of troubleshooting their problems.
The iPhone 5 should run iOS8 well. It's the last eligible phone that doesn't, ie the iPhone 4 with iOS7 and the 4S with iOS8.
I also think that my experiences with iPhones are the norm. iOS7 did render the iPhone 4 slow as a snail and it did kill the iPhone 5 battery. The 6+ is underspecced and iOS8 is a mess. These aren't outrageous untruths or sorry accidents only experienced by myself.
I moved to iOS with the release iPhone 4s, I grew weary of the garbage that Android had become. I've owned the iPhone 4s, iPhone 5, iPhone 5s, and now iPhone 6.. and I have never had RAM issues.. perhaps this is due to the way I look at the iPhone (smartphone vs. desktop system).
Continuing to post your opinions is not going to change my experiences.
The iPhone 6 is faster than my iMac so your continued categorisation is a redundant argument.
Yet another point that has been brought up time and time again- the A5 is old and slow compared to even the A6, much less the A7 or A8. As iOS becomes more complex, it needs more system resources, so older devices can't run newer versions as well. Simple as that. It will be like that until iOS plateaus feature-wise, much like OS X and Windows have. Yosemite and Windows 10 run perfectly fine on machines from 2010, while iOS and Android likely wouldn't fare as well if you could run them on devices that old. I'm sure you could shoehorn Lollipop on a Nexus One, but it wouldn't be pretty.
And that gargantuan misunderstanding of the difference between desktop and mobile platforms is precisely why some folks will never be happy with their smartphones.
That's all fine and I don't dispute it. However, Apple either shouldn't offer the latest version of iOS8 to the 4S (or iOS7 to the i4) at all, or they should warn the user that their phone will either:
Slow to a crawl
Suffer a large drop in battery life
Both
Downloading the update to someone's phone and then pestering them to install it with the promise of better performance is bang out of order.
Smartphones keep on advancing and while they are not desktop computers they are closer to them then they are to basic simple phones of a decade or two ago. While some people still use them for basic things others are not. Similar to how many use a desktop computer to search on Google and check their email and occasionally type up a letter or two using a word processing program, many are using them for much much more. It can be easily said that the association of what a smartphone is that some people have is simply a dated one and not what it really means these days.
I wouldn't expect any company to put out negative statements about their own software, but I can understand not wanting them to make false statements about it. That said, iOS 8.3 is indeed an improvement over earlier versions of iOS 8, so Apple is well within their rights to make the claims they do. I think Apple should allow people to revert to the most recent version of iOS they had on their phone prior to an update, as that would help the situation.
I agree about 8.3, it is by far the best iteration of iOS8 to date.
My only beef with updates is that most non-techy people will see that the update promises increased performance, that it is from Apple themselves and that they are imploring them to install it. I just think that Apple should be more transparent and say look, if you want the new features then here they are but just be wary that it's older hardware and that it won't run as fast as it once did etc.
I think Apple should find a way to improve performance on older devices so they don't have to say anything at all.
Hoping that's iOS 9!
I see your point. Perhaps a disclaimer from Apple regarding older hardware would be beneficial.
I can cause Safari to reload tabs on a 6+ with as little as 3 tabs. I've even done it with 2. If performance is so poor why did Apple give us a desktop class feature like opening multiple tabs?