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Does MacOS Sonoma runs fine on your Mac or is it buggy?
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Sonoma runs very well and very fast on both of my unsupported macs, my late 2009 iMac with a standard hd and 8gb ram and my mid 2010 MacBook Pro with a 500gb ssd and 8gb of ram. not going to do it on my 2014 mac mini as it only has 4gb of non upgradable ram and a standard hd. It runs monterey fine.
2021 16" MBP ...Sonoma runs fine except for the one kernel panic that caused a restart. Coming from Monterey and the new settings app is growing on me.
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I found enough annoyances that I reverted to Ventura on my M2 MBA, and am happier for it.
I'll try to keep my Apple devices with the OS it came with for as long as possible.
I don't even remember what the issues were, and that's a good thing.
I'll try to keep my Apple devices with the OS it came with for as long as possible.
I don't even remember what the issues were, and that's a good thing.
What would you call it then? It was released May 22, 1990 and version 3.1 was released April 6, 1992.
14.3.1 Beach Balls return after all recent years.
Not convinced if Sonoma related.
More convinced it could be m.2 Air 32gb ssd storage from 256gb.
Disappointing to experience Slow beach ball post boot Safari browsing.
Not convinced if Sonoma related.
More convinced it could be m.2 Air 32gb ssd storage from 256gb.
Disappointing to experience Slow beach ball post boot Safari browsing.
A fancy file manager GUI? Sure it had its own apps, once it was loaded, but it ran on top of DOS.
A bug was introduced in Sonoma where finder would take minutes to display large directories on external drives. Seems to be just a finder issue as forklift displays the same directories immediately. Have had a couple of cases go to development with a response that they know about it - but that was many months ago
Since I am running Sonoma on very much so unsupported mac's, It actually runs extremely well and actually fixed a couple issues my mid 2010 MacBook pro was having on Monterey. It has fixed the email app random crashes on Monterey as well as needing to use an alternate browser than safari for a couple websites. So far I am extremely happy with Sonoma on my late 2009 iMac and on my mid 2010 MacBook pro. It runs very fast and very stable on both machines and does everything I want it to without any issues. Hopefully the awesome crew at OCLP can be able to do the same with macOS 15 as they have been able to do, so us who are happy with our perfectly good older mac's can continue to run the latest macOS, but have a feeling that macOS 15 or macOS 16 will be the absolute last that can be patched. If it happens to be macOS 14 Sonoma, I will be happy to be running it as it runs perfect and is stable.
After the update, Mail unexpectedly quit. I suspect it was checking mail on its own in the background and something wasn't happy and it quit. I entered my comment and hit the button, it launched back up and works fine now. I did reboot to make sure and clear out and crap though.
I think for power / pro users, this OS is absolute garbage. I can not fathom why it takes so long to reconcile freed up space! Every time I get ready to go on an out of town job, I usually trim at least 500GB to a TB of content off and it NEVER registers it the same day, so I can't effing backup before a job because it is needlessly bloating my backup drive.
Then when I drag and drop 5,000 to 10,000 raw files from one folder to the next, it spends for-ever "thinking" before moving a damn thing.
What a total POS!!
Then when I drag and drop 5,000 to 10,000 raw files from one folder to the next, it spends for-ever "thinking" before moving a damn thing.
What a total POS!!
I'm a professional developer constantly working on some pretty extensive projects. Sonoma has been the smoothest macOS I've used in years.
I'm curious how you're removing data from your machine. When I delete things, the available space reflects that change immediately:
Bash:
❯ df -m ~
Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 3811196 1613977 2152333 43% 4238389 22039893880 0% /System/Volumes/Data
❯ ls -l goland-2023.3.4.tar
.rw-r--r-- sdorr staff 2066027520 Sun Feb 25 21:34:18 2024 goland-2023.3.4.tar
❯ rm goland-2023.3.4.tar
❯ df -m ~
Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 3811196 1611996 2154314 43% 4238391 22060182040 0% /System/Volumes/DataFirst I show free space. I show a large file in my downloads folder (roughly 2GB in size). I delete that file and immediately check the free space on disk. You can see the available count went from 2152333 to 2154314, a reduction of
(2154314 - 2152333) * 1024 * 1024 2077229056 which is what I would expect.Deleting files is as instant as anything is going to get. Maybe you're deleting things from the finder in which case they're going in the trash? If that's the case, emptying the trash will immediately free up that space. Maybe you're telling an app to delete assets the app is tracking? If that's the case, perhaps that app is similarly caching things in a trash can type thing that needs to be manually purged.
I just spent over two hours with Apple support on the phone, did a re-install of the OS and it is still not freeing up space. In fact, we tried to delete some other non-essential things and the system data folder in General, Storage actually grew. This is horrible timing, I have a big week long job I fly out for tomorrow and I am going to run out of space. I'm going to try to hit the genius bar in the town I am flying into but I might want to bring my M1 iPad Pro as a backup.
I wonder if this has anything to do with APFS snapshots. Have you tried DaisyDisk utility? It is good at identifying and deleting hidden files.
Speaking of "buggy", I just rebooted my M1 MBP and when I signed back in, it's saying I have no access to my own home folder, my dock and everything was totally reset, and none of my apps are opening. I don't have access to my own folders, any folders, I usually have Dark Mode on all the time but it's in Light Mode. No sign of any of my iCloud settings in the Settings app. It looks almost exactly like a brand new user account, accept the apps I have set to start at login are still starting but then not working because they can't connect to their respective folders. I'm being prompted for my password to run a large number of Apple services that would normally just run. I've tried logging into a USB Installer drive to run repairHomePermissions in the Terminal and then to run Disk Utility / Repair Permissions, restarted and there was no change. I reinstalled macOS from recovery and am seeing no change. I'm afraid I might have to erase & restore from Time Machine. This really sucks. Not what I wanted to deal with this weekend at all.
I started another post as to not hijack this one with that issue. Although any help would be welcomed at this point considering what I've already done to try and fix it.
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I started another post as to not hijack this one with that issue. Although any help would be welcomed at this point considering what I've already done to try and fix it.
Lost ALL Permissions to Main Home Folder / All Settings Reset?
I just rebooted my M1 MBP and when I signed back in, it's saying I have no access to my own home folder, my dock and everything was totally reset to look like a new user account setup, and all of my apps are opening with permissions errors. I don't have access to my own folders, any folders in...
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The Magic Trackpad 2 on my new iMac M3 that was set up new without any migration from the old Mac with Time Machine is better. Now it only lags to the point that I barely notice it during the day. Maybe once or so. The sudden jump was pretty much resolved on the previous update. Happens maybe once in a couple of days or so I think. Anyway its still there but not as prominent where it was happening almost constantly.
I’m willing to try anything to prevent this mess. After additional digging, I found someone had the same issue in 2022 and the only thing that solved it was a full erase and re-install of the OS. I did that last night and went from 1.54TB available to 3.22TB.
I’ll keep a close eye on it from now on, because otherwise this is just not a workable platform if it keeps doing this.
Certainly reinstalling the OS is not workable just to free up space. That is why at some point a few years ago I tried Daisy Disk. It worked. Did you try it? Also what about backups from Time Machine or Carbon Copy Cloner to restore to previous states?
Not yet, I just landed for my connection, have a big job this week and I am not going to mess with too much until I am back home.