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We’re not in agreement. And putting words in someone’s mouth isn’t a mature way to debate.
Well, anyway. Go to a Best Buy, look at the flagships, and come back when you're not ready to resort to ad hominem.
No thanks. I don’t care enough about this debate to take a special trip to the store.
It's Apple's only competitive advantage. This and the physical size of my SE are only two reasons why I'm still using an iPhone.
Right, and unlike on the Mac, where macOS is far superior to Windows 10, iOS is on par or maybe a little better than Android, IMHO. The parity is much closer.
iOS has been Apple's only competitive advantage since the iPhone came into existance!
You've always been able to get phones with slightly better battery life, a slightly better camera, slightly more pixels per inch.
But that is all meaningless when the OS isn't iOS because people buy Apple for iOS.
Is iOS really an advantage in 2019 though? Since moving to Android in September 2018 there's only the one thing that I honesty feel that is sub-par on Android to iOS and that's notes. I was incredibly surprised by this as I thought it was going to be other things that was going to make life difficult for me. There are way more things in Android (or Samsung's OneUI) that I'm more resistant to giving up in the reverse.
Absolutely. iOS allows me to keep my phone, tablet, watch and laptop all in sync via iCloud.
There’s no need to get a heavily compromised watch or tablet because Apple make the best of both categories.
And there’s no need to touch google, which is a massive plus!
I have everything synced up between my phone, tablet and two Macs (can't bring myself to buy a watch that requires constant charging) just the same… the only difference is that I'm not using iCloud to do it.
Yeah you’re probably using some service that will generate profit by selling targeted advertising. I don’t use services with that business model.
OneDrive. 1TB comes as part of my Office 365 subscription. 1TB also comes with it for my parents, brother and sister. How much is iCloud costing you?
79p per month.
Does Microsoft aggregate data from paying customers to sell targeted advertising?
And that's 79p more than I'm needing to… x 6 people (not that I'm using for 6, rather, 4).
I don't know… I don't get advertising from Microsoft.
I agree about google. I use their services, but do not use their cloud service and do not feel comfortable using them. If not icloud or google then what, or who? Microsoft or dropbox?
And your office 365 is £7.20pm more than I need so I think I’ll keep what I have, thanks.
Oh sure, I never said that this is not a cost. I need Office, simple as, and Office 365 is the cheapest way to have that… especially when I need 4 licenses (2 Macs = 2 x macOS and 2 x Windows 10 in BootCamp) just for me… and then I can use it on my phone and tablet (not that I do more than once a year… but I can). The 1TB OneDrive is a bonus. If you don't need Office then sure, YMMV. But I'm paying Office 365 for Office… not OneDrive. I have this exact same cost in exactly the same way owning iOS devices instead of Android devices.
And FWIW, I don't ever pay Microsoft's RRP for Office 365. I buy them at 50% from Amazon when I see them on a discount. I have 2 years that I'm yet to apply which is more than plenty for now. Some time in 2020 I might start looking again.
With 1TB I can do what I like, when I like.
It’s a great price but if people wanted to go with it the phone won’t run iOS and for many it’s a deal breaker
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Ecosystem is a massive advantage and why many won’t switch
That’s correct, but Apple’s iPhone sales are plummeting are the company is losing market share.
Apple needs customers to buy services such as cloud storage and apps and music from iTunes and the AppStore. If people move away from Apple devices, the company also forgoes other revenue sources.
It’s not losing enough for it to matter too much at this point
It’s still the number selling device
Maybe so, but iPhone sales are declining and this will not help Apple long-term.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/apr/30/apple-iphone-sales-first-quarter-earnings
"Apple’s iPhone sales fell 17% in the first three months of the year as the company’s flagship product continued to struggle.
"The tech company reported revenues of $31.05bn in iPhone revenues for the quarter, the majority of the $58.bn in revenues Apple brought in over the three months.
"The news was less gloomy than expected and Apple’s shares spiked 5% in after-hours trading as Apple announced it was buying back another $75bn of its shares.
"The company made a profit of $11.6bn – ahead of expectations. But this quarter marked another quarterly decline in profit and revenue as the company struggled to move beyond the iPhone."
https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/01/iphone-hard-hit-as-global-smartphone-shipments-continue-nosedive/
From 15.5% global smartphone marketshare in Q1 2018 to 12.8% in Q1 2019. 12,000,000 fewer iPhones shipped.
This is all down to expections though and past iPhone sales were never something to be maintained as in previous years due to increased prices and and less and less reason to upgrade
Selling 70-80 million new iPhones just isn’t realistic anymore
That's why I think Google is playing a smart game by offering the mid-range Pixel 3A and 3A XL devices as well as their flagship Pixel 3 and XL models.
Many consumers are not willing to splash out $750 USD plus on a new smartphone if their current one works perfectly well. Offering a lower priced model with decent specs, an excellent camera, and three years of guaranteed updates might change their minds.
The iPhone 11R is expected to feature dual rear camera, 12MP front camera, and A13. According to Kuo, the 11R will also have 4GB RAM, updated FaceID, and bilateral charging. The XR and 11R will be different phones.