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Spoilers Dune Books and Movie Talk
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I am incredibly pumped for the new movie. I have a lot of faith in the director. The CGI has been kept to a minimum, the casting is excellent for the most part. They are also dividing it into two movies, which should do the story justice. I have a good feeling about this one 
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Here's a question for the readers of the book (minor spoilers ahead):
I've just picked up the first novel again and one thing that strikes me as odd is this -
Early on there's a big point made about how military tactics in this universe rely entirely on shields. Shield combat requires its own dedicated fighting style and as we get to learn the shields are not feasible on Arrakis, worrying the Duke since the entire defensive strategy of Great Houses is now in question.
So, the Fremen - trained not to rely on shields for all their life - turn out to have the upper hand on their desert planet even against elite troops of the empire. But as soon as the jihad gets underway and the fight shifts to other worlds - how can the Fremen still crush their opponents and establish Paul's empire? Shields are considered a major advantage under normal circumstances, are they not? And surely the Fremen would not be able to just pick up on that training and deployment of shields in a few short years, nor are they overwelmingly strong in numbers to simply crush the forces of Great Houses.
I've just picked up the first novel again and one thing that strikes me as odd is this -
Early on there's a big point made about how military tactics in this universe rely entirely on shields. Shield combat requires its own dedicated fighting style and as we get to learn the shields are not feasible on Arrakis, worrying the Duke since the entire defensive strategy of Great Houses is now in question.
So, the Fremen - trained not to rely on shields for all their life - turn out to have the upper hand on their desert planet even against elite troops of the empire. But as soon as the jihad gets underway and the fight shifts to other worlds - how can the Fremen still crush their opponents and establish Paul's empire? Shields are considered a major advantage under normal circumstances, are they not? And surely the Fremen would not be able to just pick up on that training and deployment of shields in a few short years, nor are they overwelmingly strong in numbers to simply crush the forces of Great Houses.
It could be the power of the jihad outweighs shield advantage or there are ways to mitigate the shield advantage. I wondered that if hitting a shield with a lasgun results in a nuclear explosion, just how useful are they? 👀
I suppose the Fremen could easily multiply their numbers if they attract enough believers on the opposing side. Perhaps that's what is meant. I don't think that could work everywhere though and surely not against the Sardaukar or staunch atheists.
As for the shields as far as I understood them - hitting one with a lasgun creates a massive explosion at both source and target of the beam so you would actually be endangering yourselves and your companions if you took a lasgun into combat. At the very least you would destroy your lasgun as a result of the act of firing at a shield (I think they do talk about remote controlled ones at some point in one of the books).
I guess that means that essentially nobody dares to fire for fear of hitting a shield even just accidentially and that space combat (if even permitted by the Guild) is all about boarding the enemy vessel and taking the crew out, none of that dodging of laser turrets on capital ships.
You could easily employ remote drones to do this job for the tactical advantage.I suppose the Fremen could easily multiply their numbers if they attract enough believers on the opposing side. Perhaps that's what is meant. I don't think that could work everywhere though and surely not against the Sardaukar or staunch atheists.
As for the shields as far as I understood them - hitting one with a lasgun creates a massive explosion at both source and target of the beam so you would actually be endangering yourselves and your companions if you took a lasgun into combat. At the very least you would destroy your lasgun as a result of the act of firing at a shield (I think they do talk about remote controlled ones at some point in one of the books).
I guess that means that essentially nobody dares to fire for fear of hitting a shield even just accidentially and that space combat (if even permitted by the Guild) is all about boarding the enemy vessel and taking the crew out, none of that dodging of laser turrets on capital ships.
You could easily employ remote drones to do this job for the tactical advantage.
Suppose it depends on the size of the explosion. I never understood it as actual nuclear blasts though, just compared to ones in terms of impact. If however it is meant to be the former then really easy answer: the Great Convention forbids that.
Anyway, it is described that the Atreides residence in Arrakeen is protected by a house shield. Seems really risky business to live there then.
this is interesting - looks like they will release the streamed version on HBO at the same time as the cinema release
www.cnet.com
HBO Max will stream Matrix 4, Dune, all Warner Bros. 2021 movies same day as theaters
The new movies will be available on Max at no added cost for one month, making the release plan for Wonder Woman 1984 -- streaming on Max on Dec. 25 -- the norm for all Warner Bros. movies next year.
this is interesting - looks like they will release the streamed version on HBO at the same time as the cinema release
HBO Max will stream Matrix 4, Dune, all Warner Bros. 2021 movies same day as theaters
The new movies will be available on Max at no added cost for one month, making the release plan for Wonder Woman 1984 -- streaming on Max on Dec. 25 -- the norm for all Warner Bros. movies next year.
well, I have HBO Max so consider me very happy!
It's great not having to wait to watch films at home, assuming you're in the US and can get HBO Max. For me though, streaming doesn't cut it sound wise for blockbuster films.
it's getting closer - looks like it might be as soon as October 2021
Hans Zimmer sound tracks are being pre released
Hans Zimmer sound tracks are being pre released
Me too, so excited. I'm not even going to watch the trailers.
I tried rewatching the original with Kyle McLachlan, but he's permanently branded into my brain as the mayor of Portlandia, and I half expected him to turn to the camera and say something about sun and music. Or even a reference to pie and coffee ...
2nd trailer has dropped for those who want to see it... link below.
While I liked to the original Paul... I actually like this one better, just from the previews. He is more inline with what I pictured him looking like.
While I liked to the original Paul... I actually like this one better, just from the previews. He is more inline with what I pictured him looking like.
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