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Barrierfreeman

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Might be a glitch, but does one need the premium sub to be able to edit entries, originally created on OSX, in the iOS app?

Edit: Seems it was just one of a few initial glitches. Syncing seems especially rough. Despite subscribing. Entries deleted in iOS app not removed on Mac, despite several restarts/manual syncs. Oddly, new entries created in iOS appear in Mac, just not removing deleted ones.

Will see how it looks in the morning,
 
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Ibalek

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Might be a glitch, but does one need the premium sub to be able to edit entries, originally created on OSX, in the iOS app?

No, the iOS app currently does not have the capability to edit following types of entries. Text, Photo, Sketch types of posts are editable. We are right now working towards eliminating this limitation so that iOS app editing behaves exactly like macOS App.
- Audio
- Video
- Health/Mood
- Life Events
- Checkins
- Location Pins
 
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Barrierfreeman

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No, the iOS app currently does not have the capability to edit following types of entries. Text, Photo, Sketch types of posts are editable. We are right now working towards eliminating this limitation so that iOS app editing behaves exactly like macOS App.
- Audio
- Video
- Health/Mood
- Life Events
- Checkins
- Location Pins

Thanks for the clarification.

Been using the app for a week now, and subbed as enjoying what I have seen and would like to see development continuing.

With that in mind. Not sure if bug, but if one wants to add the weather to a post, and has the ‘do not add location’ toggle turned on, you get a network error. The only way to get it to work is to add a photo with a geo tag, and it seems to pull the data from the photo's geo data.

For the record, Dyrii is set to 'when using app' in privacy>location services. So should be able to pull location data for weather.

App settings are get geo data from pics is on + do not add location is toggled on. If I turn off the latter, it works, but I don't want to add geo data to every post, just occasionally manually add the weather....and location I guess.

Thanks.
 

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Tanax

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Sorry. Not natively speaking English.
You mean, by the time you have payed Dyrii $49 (accumulate, over time), it'll have more features than what DayOne gives you for $49? :)

DayOne subscription is $49 per year today, with a certain feature set. Dyrii is $10 per year today with a certain feature set.

What I mean to say is that by the time Dyrii increases prices to $49 per year, the feature set would be far more expansive than what DayOne charged $49 for.

Hope this helps. :)
 
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Increased feature sets probably justify increased subscriptions. But always bear in mind what happened to Day One and an even worse example - MoneyWiz. Features stacked upon features and increasingly more users not recognising or appreciating the benefit.
 
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Increased feature sets probably justify increased subscriptions. But always bear in mind what happened to Day One and an even worse example - MoneyWiz. Features stacked upon features and increasingly more users not recognising or appreciating the benefit.

MoneyWiz is a classic example, I got it for its excellent banking integration, but never quite managed to use it with love. Something similar happened with DayOne, I used it rather less. When I did, I was okay with it. However, with Dyrii, while there are some quirks between macOS and iOS apps, the user experience has so far been delightful, each time I open the app, especially on macOS. If they can bring a unified experience as they were talking about some time ago, this will be so great. At the moment, I find adding mood and symptoms easiest on the Mac, on iOS I am pretty much clueless. This is not a deal breaker though, since I know this is possible as Ibalek told some time back.

Dyrii is one of those apps that you love, and love to use. It grows on you.
 

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Increased feature sets probably justify increased subscriptions. But always bear in mind what happened to Day One and an even worse example - MoneyWiz. Features stacked upon features and increasingly more users not recognising or appreciating the benefit.

Agreed. We will try our best not to bloat the app with necessary features. Regarding pricing, we are sensitive to the fact that users are already bearing their iCloud Data Storage costs, which we are piggybacking on. So, we are going keep subscription prices very very low and affordable. But as I said before, we may increase our one-time pricing.
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MoneyWiz is a classic example, I got it for its excellent banking integration, but never quite managed to use it with love. Something similar happened with DayOne, I used it rather less. When I did, I was okay with it. However, with Dyrii, while there are some quirks between macOS and iOS apps, the user experience has so far been delightful, each time I open the app, especially on macOS. If they can bring a unified experience as they were talking about some time ago, this will be so great. At the moment, I find adding mood and symptoms easiest on the Mac, on iOS I am pretty much clueless. This is not a deal breaker though, since I know this is possible as Ibalek told some time back.

Dyrii is one of those apps that you love, and love to use. It grows on you.

Yep, we are bringing post editing functionality in iOS in line with macOS in our next release.
 
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Tanax

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DayOne subscription is $49 per year today, with a certain feature set. Dyrii is $10 per year today with a certain feature set.

What I mean to say is that by the time Dyrii increases prices to $49 per year, the feature set would be far more expansive than what DayOne charged $49 for.

Hope this helps. :)

This was what I was afraid of and hoped that I had misunderstood you. Increasing pricing to $49 per year would be a mistake, especially when Dyrii doesn't really have any own infrastructure in place to warrant a subscription fee that enables syncing and storage of the entries - iCloud does this, and we already pay iCloud for storage. Why would we pay for the same storage, twice? I know developers need to eat too - I'm a developer myself, but that's why I feel the current pricing is quite fair. Keeping it low like it is now will get more users.

Now, Dyrii already answered this (twice even) so everything is good :)
 
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This was what I was afraid of and hoped that I had misunderstood you. Increasing pricing to $49 per year would be a mistake, especially when Dyrii doesn't really have any own infrastructure in place to warrant a subscription fee that enables syncing and storage of the entries - iCloud does this, and we already pay iCloud for storage. Why would we pay for the same storage, twice? I know developers need to eat too - I'm a developer myself, but that's why I feel the current pricing is quite fair. Keeping it low like it is now will get more users.

Now, Dyrii already answered this (twice even) so everything is good :)

Exactly, to be clear, Dyrii is not increasing prices. I was talking of a future scenario, that when and if they do, their feature set would outclass and surpass what DayOne offers at $49. I should apologise for raising heartbeats about a potential price increase, unnecessarily. :oops:
 
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leon.guan

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Too bad that markdown is not supported. I believe one of the biggest reason for people to choose Day One is it's markdown support. No markdown support means for those MD lovers, they have to move hands from keyboard to mouse or trackpad to pick a format from toolbar or something else. This experience is so bad.
 

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Too bad that markdown is not supported. I believe one of the biggest reason for people to choose Day One is it's markdown support. No markdown support means for those MD lovers, they have to move hands from keyboard to mouse or trackpad to pick a format from toolbar or something else. This experience is so bad.

We are evaluating this need and open to supporting markdown. But it seems like most people prefer WYSIWYG editor and very people are asking for markdown support. We have the below site for users to request features in case you are interested.

https://dyrii-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/115000201647-Feature-Requests
 

leon.guan

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Too less Feature requests and too less votes for all of them, I don't think it can reflect the actual needs. Anyway, maybe this is just my opinion. To me, it's really a no-go if I have to use mouse for selecting different styles during writing.

We are evaluating this need and open to supporting markdown. But it seems like most people prefer WYSIWYG editor and very people are asking for markdown support. We have the below site for users to request features in case you are interested.

https://dyrii-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/115000201647-Feature-Requests
 
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Too less Feature requests and too less votes for all of them, I don't think it can reflect the actual needs. Anyway, maybe this is just my opinion. To me, it's really a no-go if I have to use mouse for selecting different styles during writing.

Classic example of to each his own, how vastly preferences vary between users.

For my personal preferences, I find that while a journalling app could/ may support markdown and that would be a huge plus (as the output would be formatted to my preferences, if and when I want to output for others to read) but for the specific purpose of journalling, the less the clutter, the better the journalling.

Journalling can be seen in multiple perspectives. Some see it as a scrap book, some see it as detailed account of their day, replete with photos and what not, some see it as a therapeutic medium, wherein they are vocalising their thoughts for themselves, and for their therapists and such. This last form of journalling use is what I feel was the original target experience of Dyrii, a simple and pure piece of digital canvas for you to start penning your thoughts on.

The provision of templates, and the featured template (Making SPACE) is testimony to it. The other templates also give an idea of who for and what for is Dyrii generally intended.

To such an audience, not having markdown would not matter at all. All they would want is a clutter-free, no nonsense, no frills experience where nothing comes between them and their thoughts, not even the canvas. And this is where Dyrii excels at. You make the app full screen, turn on dark mode, and boy, the beauty of that calm black screen with subdued colours makes for a very effective environment to just release your thoughts on the digital canvas. Having to use markdown would, hypothetically, as well as literally, slow such people down.

Markdown would be a distraction in such a case, because people are not wired to think in markdown, they are wired to think in English. While typing, using symbols to effect markdown would cause a slowdown, therefore.
 
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leon.guan

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Yeah, guess I am not that kind of Dyrii's target user. To me, markdown is something that can make text files present more things, but still don't messed the text files were viewed in plain text. I can write in several kinds of text markup languages, but markdown is one of them which can make plain text more meaningful even without a renderer.

Anyway, maybe that's because I am a programmer instead of a writer.

Classic example of to each his own, how vastly preferences vary between users.

For my personal preferences, I find that while a journalling app could/ may support markdown and that would be a huge plus (as the output would be formatted to my preferences, if and when I want to output for others to read) but for the specific purpose of journalling, the less the clutter, the better the journalling.

Journalling can be seen in multiple perspectives. Some see it as a scrap book, some see it as detailed account of their day, replete with photos and what not, some see it as a therapeutic medium, wherein they are vocalising their thoughts for themselves, and for their therapists and such. This last form of journalling use is what I feel was the original target experience of Dyrii, a simple and pure piece of digital canvas for you to start penning your thoughts on.

The provision of templates, and the featured template (Making SPACE) is testimony to it. The other templates also give an idea of who for and what for is Dyrii generally intended.

To such an audience, not having markdown would not matter at all. All they would want is a clutter-free, no nonsense, no frills experience where nothing comes between them and their thoughts, not even the canvas. And this is where Dyrii excels at. You make the app full screen, turn on dark mode, and boy, the beauty of that calm black screen with subdued colours makes for a very effective environment to just release your thoughts on the digital canvas. Having to use markdown would, hypothetically, as well as literally, slow such people down.

Markdown would be a distraction in such a case, because people are not wired to think in markdown, they are wired to think in English. While typing, using symbols to effect markdown would cause a slowdown, therefore.
 
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Yeah, guess I am not that kind of Dyrii's target user. To me, markdown is something that can make text files present more things, but still don't messed the text files were viewed in plain text. I can write in several kinds of text markup languages, but markdown is one of them which can make plain text more meaningful even without a renderer.

Anyway, maybe that's because I am a programmer instead of a writer.

Markdown is hands down one of the most intuitive and flowing languages to write in, once we know the 'code' to it. If Dyrii were to support it, I am sure this would open up a wider user base for the app, but I fancy this would also mean a considerable development effort on their part, so perhaps this would be brought in at a later date or only if heavily requested. @Ibalek knows best!

I think, these guys are following a great strategy to commit to and serve the requirements and requests from the existing user base, while trying to widen their user base as well.

You are right, MD can make text files far more presentable and meaningful to a person who can read MD, and even otherwise. I love typing in MD in Bear Writer.
 

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Too less Feature requests and too less votes for all of them, I don't think it can reflect the actual needs. Anyway, maybe this is just my opinion. To me, it's really a no-go if I have to use mouse for selecting different styles during writing.

Don't worry about that. I am tracking user interest from various other channels as well. As I said, we are open to it and reviewing how best we could meet this need. If you like the rest of the app then keep following.
 
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Laowai184

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I'm glad I found this thread! I used to be a DO (free)user, but when I recently went back to it after a long break away, they'd deleted my account - all my journals gone. This discovery couldn't have come at a better time! After reading through this thread and seeing what a cool developer IBalek is, I went and purchased a subscription. Looking forward to using Dyrii!

A quick question; I've noticed that when making an entry, the weather is added, but it's in Fahrenheit, whereas my phone is set to Celsius. Is there any way to change the temperature settings? It doesn't really bother me, I just wondered if there was a setting I might have missed.

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I have another query. As I mentioned, I have a paid subscription. However, the options on the left side have padlocks on them! When I click on the padlock I'm told "This is a Premium feature. You need to upgrade." Any ideas? I guess I could try uninstalling and reinstalling first...

Thanks!
 

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I'm glad I found this thread! I used to be a DO (free)user, but when I recently went back to it after a long break away, they'd deleted my account - all my journals gone. This discovery couldn't have come at a better time! After reading through this thread and seeing what a cool developer IBalek is, I went and purchased a subscription. Looking forward to using Dyrii!

A quick question; I've noticed that when making an entry, the weather is added, but it's in Fahrenheit, whereas my phone is set to Celsius. Is there any way to change the temperature settings? It doesn't really bother me, I just wondered if there was a setting I might have missed.

EDIT

I have another query. As I mentioned, I have a paid subscription. However, the options on the left side have padlocks on them! When I click on the padlock I'm told "This is a Premium feature. You need to upgrade." Any ideas? I guess I could try uninstalling and reinstalling first...

Thanks!

Yes. there is a checkbox toggle called "Use metric units" that is located under Mac Menu Preferences > Personalize section. If you purchased premium on iOS, then just enabled iCloud on both devices and the padlocks should go away. If there is a lag, use the refresh (circular arrow button) on the premium screen. Email us at support@dyrii.com if the issue doesn't get resolved.
 

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Yes. there is a checkbox toggle called "Use metric units" that is located under Mac Menu Preferences > Personalize section. If you purchased premium on iOS, then just enabled iCloud on both devices and the padlocks should go away. If there is a lag, use the refresh (circular arrow button) on the premium screen. Email us at support@dyrii.com if the issue doesn't get resolved.

Use metric option doesn't stay checked when you close and restart Dyrii. :)
 

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The checkbox part is a bug, but the backend toggle should stay on even after the restart even if the checkbox doesn't show it. We will fix it in next release.
 
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Yes. there is a checkbox toggle called "Use metric units" that is located under Mac Menu Preferences > Personalize section. If you purchased premium on iOS, then just enabled iCloud on both devices and the padlocks should go away. If there is a lag, use the refresh (circular arrow button) on the premium screen. Email us at support@dyrii.com if the issue doesn't get resolved.
Awesome, thanks for that! I knew there had to be a way and I was being dumb, lol. As for the second issue, I reinstalled the app and all was fine. Loving the app!
 
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