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El Capitan = Windows Vista
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Vista was fine after SP2, but it was kinda ugly and 7 kept alot of that look, I prefer 10's UI of all the previous versions
I actually think 7 cleaned up the Ui quite a bit. Granted it's not the best, but I feel it was tightened up in7.
The top picture isn't El Capitan though.looks pretty same old same old to me.... except for the transparent windows which still look kinda modern now vs the solid look.
Sorry the OP is having some serious issues with EC, but for me, El Capitan has been the smoothest and most stable OS I've had on my 2012 MacBook Pro--and I've had less issues with EC than any other OS I've used going back to 2008--which is to say I've had no issues with EC. The OS itself certainly can't be compared to Vista--which was considered seriously flawed by many.
Correct, it's OS X from 2007,
But guess what... OS X still looked similar to vista then and it still looks similar now 8-9 years later.
Me too, I never used Mav, but both Lions sucked for me, Yosemite was really slow, El Cap has been awesome.
Every version of OS X, someone makes the statement that its Apple's Vista.
Is Yosemite the Windows Vista of Mac?
Mavericks still living up to it's Vista-like reputation
Anyone feel like Lion is Apple's Windows Vista?
My Snow Leopard is turning into Windows Vista!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure, some of those who posted in the above threads, may very have later praised that version of OS X when the new version came out - including myself (I'm not perfect and will never profess to be)
The comparisons to Vista started with Lion. Snow Leopard, which immediately proceeded Lion, wasn't bug-free, but everybody I know liked it. Beginning with Lion, OS X has gotten increasingly dysfunctional, clumsy, and slow.
I still have Snow Leopard on my 2009 MacBook Pro. Although it has a slow, spinning hard disk, it boots and launches apps just as quickly as my 2012 Mac Mini running El Capitan from an SSD. It's kind of ridiculous.
That's my point, if someone complains about OS X, they make a connection to Vista, and we see that starting from the beginning.
Windows Vista is the view you get when you've leapt off the top of El Capitan and are about halfway down to the rocks below.
*******Every version of OS X, someone makes the statement that its Apple's Vista.
Is Yosemite the Windows Vista of Mac?
Mavericks still living up to it's Vista-like reputation
Anyone feel like Lion is Apple's Windows Vista?
My Snow Leopard is turning into Windows Vista!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure, some of those who posted in the above threads, may very have later praised that version of OS X when the new version came out - including myself (I'm not perfect and will never profess to be
And I can add to this that every person with nostalgia for an old OSX he particularly liked, often speaks of it as the Windows XP of macs, because of the long lasting period in which people kept using Windows XP.
I remember that some people even paid to the dealer to downgrade a new computer from its factory delivered Vista to XP, as several years later others paid to downgrade from Windows 8 with its squares and rectangles many disliked to the more familiar Windows 7.
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The big problems for Vista early adopters (of which i was one) were:
Vista looked a lot better than XP too, seriously...
And as far as OS X becoming less functional.... i suspect this is coming from either Snow Leopard hold outs who haven't actually used anything more recent.... or people who are using current releases and looking back on snow leopard with rose tinted glasses.
I mean seriously.... re-sizing windows from only the bottom right corner? Semi functional IPv6 support? No iCloud support to sync data between machines including phone and tablet?
Snow leopard was fast on modest hardware and stable. But that's it. In terms of functionality it lacks a lot.
- the listed system requirements were not really accurate. It ran like a complete dog with less than 1 GB of memory.
- due to major changes to the kernel a lot of third party drivers needed to be re-written - so hardware stopped working because the third party OEMs dragged their feet
- badly behaved software didn't work very well unless it ran as administrator and Vista locked things down a bit more
Vista looked a lot better than XP too, seriously...
And as far as OS X becoming less functional.... i suspect this is coming from either Snow Leopard hold outs who haven't actually used anything more recent.... or people who are using current releases and looking back on snow leopard with rose tinted glasses.
I mean seriously.... re-sizing windows from only the bottom right corner? Semi functional IPv6 support? No iCloud support to sync data between machines including phone and tablet?
Snow leopard was fast on modest hardware and stable. But that's it. In terms of functionality it lacks a lot.
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Sure, however the number of brain damaged, super annoying bugs i run into in Windows 10 more than outweighs the performance "benefit".
Win10 resolution independence and hi-dpi support is a complete joke.
Just plug a surface pro into a non-high dpi external monitor to use as a second screen and see the retarded stuff it does to try and be "helpful" with resolution scaling.
It doesn't reliably wake from sleep either.
Actually all those sound like valid complaints about El Capitan. a) 5400rpm, b) various USB-related bugs I keep on reading about (personally had no problems though), c) SIP.
Is that bad? More junk is included with OS X these days t slow it down. I don't want apple or their security friends spying on me so I can sync anything manually via email.
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SIP is a positive advancement for OS X. Kudos to apple for that.
"badly behaved software didn't work very well unless it ran as administrator and Vista locked things down a bit more"
I wouldn't know about SIP being a particular advantage because I disabled it on all my computers to run XtraFinder and cDock.
SIP prevents device driver hacks and deleting from certain file system directories, so typical users won't see an issue. In terms of vista, it was the first Microsoft OS that constrained bad developer behavior on that platform. I don't believe Mac developers ran amok to that level do SIP has limited impact to most. The two programs you cite are OSX hacks which use undocumented interfaces.
So basically you're saying that in terms of El Capitan, it was the first Mac OS X that constrained bad developer behavior on that platform.
So basically you're saying that in terms of El Capitan, it was the first Mac OS X that constrained bad developer behavior on that platform.
There have always been bad OS X developers, but SIP prevents a lot of potential misbehaving programs from running, which is a good thing. If the user wants to run hacks then they can via SIP disabling.
That was a mistake.
If you do not understand how SIP protects your system from compromise, you should probably leave it turned on.
Yes, some badly designed software may break. But the protection it offers is more than worth that, IMHO.
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You're free to turn iCloud off.
Better gesture support, hi-DPI (i.e., retina) display support, gatekeeper, SIP, metal, are all missing from snow leopard.
Snow leopard hold-outs are like the XP users of the Windows world.
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