well, that's 2 of you.
proof that el cap is useless? i've been on every mac os since 7.0.1 (so you beat me), but...el cap is, here, the best os x moment since snow leopard. am also on a new 13"...
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El Capitan = Windows Vista
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well, that's 2 of you.
proof that el cap is useless? i've been on every mac os since 7.0.1 (so you beat me), but...el cap is, here, the best os x moment since snow leopard. am also on a new 13"...
If two of you are having the same first 4 problems on your list, you've both made settings changes away from the defaults. Overall, the experience in applications and the Finder have changed very little in any version of OS X.
Oh? Why is a computer relegated to the trash after a few years? SL works perfectly well on a near 10 years old Mac for the majority of users. Computers in the last 10 years are now "good enough" that they don't need to be upgraded as they can run youtube videos and do facebook no problem.
That's great, just don't expect it run the latest software like a new computer or expect Apple to continually update legacy operating systems.
I have an G4 cube, that still runs very nicely, albeit slowly.
You mean its own legacy operating systems. Quote from another thread:
It's actually kind of hilarious that Apple supports a competing OS with iTunes updates for a longer time than its own OS released at the same time. A 32-bit Mac user being forced to run Windows 7 to get the latest version of iTunes...
Very nice, I use mine on occasion and plan to upgrade it soon.
Malware is becoming more advanced, and rather than your first experience with it being a rooted system that you can't even detect because your kernel / low level services have been subverted to lie to your OS / virus scanner / other OS X protections, protecting against getting owned in the first place is prudent.
Hey, do what you like, if SIP doesn't work with your software, go nuts. Turn it off.
But if there is no software you can live without that requires it to be turned off, turn it on. It offers a significant layer of protection.
Blindly turning it off because "I DONT WANT OS X TO BE IOS" or some such crap (which is about the only reason one would do it without understanding what SIP does and making an informed choice), which is not uncommon amongst end users is most certainly a mistake.
I can't say El Capitan is my favorite Mac OS--Lion was--but 10.11.4 is smooth, stable and I get my work done fairly seamlessly. I haven't encounter any of the OP's issues. I use Adobe products for my photography but Apple's Photos app auto opening (despite being unchecked) dogged me for a couple months until I found a terminal command to disable auto opening. So all is good and I'm a happy camper.
Mavericks was my VISTA and ever got it to work as well as Lion or El Capitan...
Mavericks was my VISTA and ever got it to work as well as Lion or El Capitan...
I agree. I've bought new mac mini few months ago a it's been nightmare since then.I'm on mac since Panther.I own few macs in my household, but I’ve never had so bad mac os experience before and I ‘ve never seen beach ball so many times in my 12 years “mac” experience.
Restore,clean install, ssd thru external box ,tried maybe everything. At first I thought that crappy hardware, i5 cpu , 8gb ram.Ram running on 99%.
Thanks to apple, I’m unable to expand ram or try lower version of OS.I was about to put my mac mini for sale, but I’ve find solution.
Bootcamp and win 10 runs like charm.It’s really hard to say,but win 10 runs better on my mac mini,than El capitan.
Now everything runs smooth,no problem with RAM.no beach ball.
Way to go apple.
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My biggest problem with Vista was that it looked DISGUSTING. Despite Ive's efforts Mac OS is nowhere near that ugly.
Needs more drop shadows and gradients!!!
It's not like I'm vista fan or windows, but what is nice on todays Mac OS?
Those colorless icons in finder, mail or itunes.
Those colorless icons in finder, mail or itunes just looks like crap on dual 27” full, HD set
up,but even on small 13” macbook pro it’s same..Are apple is moving back in eighties?
But looks like nobody complains and everybody is satisfied wit that future for colorblind.Sorry no offense,for real colorblind people.
Make no mistake,I’m still mac fan,by it looks sometimes,like mac is losing all advantages to windows from past.
As I said I am not a fan of Ive. Calendar app is a MESS. You don't know what's clickable, when you click things like time they run away from under the mouse cursor, the text is TINY, the white is overpowering. Mail on Macbook Air – you can enlarge the content but not the list of emails. The new icons are largely disgusting and what they are doing with iPads now – doing renders without perspective – just makes them look like someone got lost in Photoshop functions.
Having said that, I'll take OS X over Vista, looks-wise, any day. I'd score them 6/10 (OS X) and 3/10 (Vista). Windows 10, accidentally, would get 8/10 from me the remaining 2 is because they STILL haven't figured out how to display fonts so they look really good. And before anybody says that, NO, I am not moving to Windows anytime soon.
Having said that, I'll take OS X over Vista, looks-wise, any day. I'd score them 6/10 (OS X) and 3/10 (Vista). Windows 10, accidentally, would get 8/10 from me the remaining 2 is because they STILL haven't figured out how to display fonts so they look really good. And before anybody says that, NO, I am not moving to Windows anytime soon.
The OS X Calendar app is terrible. What's up with the stupid skinny sidebar?
Spotlight - why can't I make it wider?
But my biggest bugbear with ongoing OS X versions is performance, or the lack of it. I regularly use a 2010 imac with 8Gb RAM and a mechanical HDD - its deliberately left at Mavericks and for most tasks it flies. On the other hand my mid 2014 rMBP - 2.8Ghz/16Gb/1Tb SSD running El Capitan just doesn't seem any better, sometimes it appears a bit sluggish. Its hard to quantify, just now and again...I dual booted windows 10 on the rMBP for a while - it was really really rapid. The thing about versions of Windows is that from Vista onwards, the OS has got quicker and quicker. OS X seems to be going the other way generally.
Spotlight - why can't I make it wider?
But my biggest bugbear with ongoing OS X versions is performance, or the lack of it. I regularly use a 2010 imac with 8Gb RAM and a mechanical HDD - its deliberately left at Mavericks and for most tasks it flies. On the other hand my mid 2014 rMBP - 2.8Ghz/16Gb/1Tb SSD running El Capitan just doesn't seem any better, sometimes it appears a bit sluggish. Its hard to quantify, just now and again...I dual booted windows 10 on the rMBP for a while - it was really really rapid. The thing about versions of Windows is that from Vista onwards, the OS has got quicker and quicker. OS X seems to be going the other way generally.
So the way you feel about Apple, you would also recommend Microsoft actively support Windows 2003 and Windows XP still? No. Absolutely not. Apple allows old computers to be upgraded to be upgraded to Yosemite/El Capitan. Therefore, they are still supporting old hardware.
Also, mavericks was absolutely horrible. Just awful.
microsoft vista was the main reason i switched to mac, since that day I have never looked back. now am running el capitan on my mac mini's which i have 2 of and my 2009 non unibody macbook. all 3 machines work perfect. they were all updated to el capitan from a previous version of os x and not a problem at all. they ran a little slow for the first couple days but once they adjusted to the new os they run beautiful
I only read the first post from OP - but literally every single 'annoying feature' mentioned in el capitan can be modified via the settings or cmdline. I assume this thread is just a irrational debate - but I apologize if someone already mentioned this. The UI changes since mavericks haven't been *radically* different by any means, and you can change almost everything that bothers you (turn off animations, change preview behavior, etc.) if you take the time to learn how.