So the Three website is talking rubbish. Thanks for your info! I might finally be upgrading my 6S this year
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With my iPhone 11 Pro, I'm sticking with a Verizon physical SIM and using the eSIM for the UK. Any recommendations on a UK Carrier with eSIM? I need my primary to be a physical SIM.
Also, any UK carrier that will allow me to sign up from the US?
Also, any UK carrier that will allow me to sign up from the US?
This contradicts what they say at Three UK:
http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI...cat=simsupport,varset_subcat=,Case=obj(41848)
"You can’t use 2 Three SIMs in one device, because you can only use one 3G or 4G SIM at a time, and Three don’t support the 2G network. ... Your secondary SIM will only work on 2G, which we don’t support"
Or am I not understanding your reply? That's quite likely
I basically need both SIMs to work at 3G or 4G at the same time as I'm often in a country with no 2G support.
So the Three website is talking rubbish. Thanks for your info! I might finally be upgrading my 6S this year
As @valkyrie917 said, the restriction on dual-SIM concerns data. Two lines cannot have simultaneous data. The confusion is probably because people use 3G as a colloquial term for data.
You can have two active lines connected to LTE, 3G HSPA, UMTS or GSM.
The exception is you cannot have two CDMA lines at the same time. But even then, people get confused:
Verizon used to be a CDMA carrier, but they're now mostly LTE (and VoLTE). It means that you can indeed have two active Verizon lines. BUT, one line will be able to fall back on CDMA while the other one will only be able to do LTE. This means the restriction on two CDMA lines is NOT a restriction on two Verizon lines.
Maybe I'll switch it up and stick with VZW eSim and get a physical SIM
Thoughts on a prepaid Three?
https://www.amazon.com/Europe-Count...e&keywords=three+uk+sim&qid=1568683262&sr=8-3
(Sorry, not an answer to your question, but helpful I hope
I have VZW on an eSIM, and used a prepaid GiffGaff physical SIM while vacationing in UK and Europe this summer. Worked great. You can get the GG SIM via postal mail in USA if you have enough lead time before you travel.
I’ve been using a prepaid Three SIM for many years and it’s so great with the dual SIM iPhones now. The plans aren’t expensive, maybe not the cheapest. But the credits never expire. Feel at Home Roaming is also great as long as you don’t abuse it.
I wasn't confused at all, until I read the Three UK website which said their sim will not work as secondary
I'm going to ignore them.I've just got one. I activated it here in Switzerland despite the fact their website says it has to be activated in the UK. That should have been my first clue that their website isn't the most accurate on technical issues! Do check the prices on their website directly before ordering from a third party.
https://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Pay_As_You_Go
They don't do an e-sim though, which is annoying. I'm almost tempted to buy my next phone from Hong Kong to get the dual physical sim model, but I'm concerned about the warranty and getting support on phone models not sold in Europe.
Bear in mind that link is to a data only SIM designed for use in a tablet or MiFi type device.
Three UK are fine for use in the UK. EU roaming has typically been slower for me outside of the UK with Three but full speed with Vodafone and EE.
Im wondering is it now possible with ios 13 to out second sim sleep mode on, while it is not running for primary sim ?
For example I would like to set my e-sim for business use offline everyday after working hours, but my primary prive sim may still be working..
I asked apple about this, so far this is not possible with ios 12
For example I would like to set my e-sim for business use offline everyday after working hours, but my primary prive sim may still be working..
I asked apple about this, so far this is not possible with ios 12
Hmm interessting.
Currently lacking this feature in ios, is holding me back using an esim..
I have this exact issue.
But it only affects the eSIM.
I have one personal eSIM phone line and one business Physical SIM phone line.
When I call using the Physical SIM my eSIM coverage goes to no coverage. When I end the call with my physical SIM the coverage on eSIM comes back.
This is expected behaviour. The Phone is Dual SIM but only one line can be active at any one time.
But when I call using my eSIM the physical SIM line still has full coverage. Doesn’t seem expected with different behavior?
if I activate WiFi calling on both lines and talk on either line with call waiting I will get incoming calls either way, if I disable WiFi calling it only works one way. Inconsistent expected behavior? Doesn’t seem right...
No it's not, not with iOS 13. Read the first post
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You're right–iOS 13 should allow you to use both if both have active data. Make sure VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling is enabled on both lines.
Updated Apple Support article for iOS 13 dual-sim: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209086
Hello everyone.
I have been using AT&T roaming on Rogers as a main sim for data and Freedom Mobile for my Canadian number. Freedom being used on esim.
The workaround i use to force Freedom to use Rogers/AT&T data for Wifi-calling is going into manual network selection for Freedom line and selecting a competitors network. Doing so, the freedom line is not authorized for connection to the towers and will be perpetually in "No Service".
Not sure the impact on battery life doing this though. Having the Freedom line constantly trying to connect.
This also solves a bug that I've been experiencing where mobile data is not consistant when two sim lines are connected at the same time to their corresponding networks. Facebook messenger and facetime calls are choppy and laggy.
Now with only the Rogers/at&t pho connected to an actual network and freedom piggybacking off that, there are no more lag problems.
I have been using AT&T roaming on Rogers as a main sim for data and Freedom Mobile for my Canadian number. Freedom being used on esim.
The workaround i use to force Freedom to use Rogers/AT&T data for Wifi-calling is going into manual network selection for Freedom line and selecting a competitors network. Doing so, the freedom line is not authorized for connection to the towers and will be perpetually in "No Service".
Not sure the impact on battery life doing this though. Having the Freedom line constantly trying to connect.
This also solves a bug that I've been experiencing where mobile data is not consistant when two sim lines are connected at the same time to their corresponding networks. Facebook messenger and facetime calls are choppy and laggy.
Now with only the Rogers/at&t pho connected to an actual network and freedom piggybacking off that, there are no more lag problems.
And also iOS 13 dual-sim with eSIM
FYI this doesn‘t affect warranty or support if you purchase from Apple (like on a trip). Not sure how it works with 3rd party sellers.
I've been doing quite a bit of reading on this. An iPhone warranty is only for the country it's bought in (apart from the EU + some others, where it's treated as one country). The official warranty terms do say something like "may be restricted to the country" so the option is there for repairs, but as the dual physical sim model is only sold in Hong Kong (the China version is different again) there have been many reports of repairs being refused and none of repairs being accepted. The other countries simply don't have the parts or the correct model number phone. HK is also an exception where there's no 14-day return period.
I'm not willing to take the risk.
Totally understand. I'm in the opposite situation (as are a lot of folk here/in Singapore) where we live in HK/SG with iPhones purchased in home countries, and Apple Stores here definitely accept the warranty/repair as needed. That's all I was basing on, so no experience vice versa. Good luck either way.