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MyPhone99

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During normal sim days i.e a 2017/18 when we get a unlocked phone we definetly need any sim to activate the device. is this case even now ? i.e if we take a unlocked phone in apple.com , while setting up do we definitely need an active esim or can we use the phone similar to the wifi device , say a wifi ipad ?
 

SpecB

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During normal sim days i.e a 2017/18 when we get a unlocked phone we definetly need any sim to activate the device. is this case even now ? i.e if we take a unlocked phone in apple.com , while setting up do we definitely need an active esim or can we use the phone similar to the wifi device , say a wifi ipad ?
You can complete the setup without activating the eSim; in fact you'll be given the choice to activate or to do so later.
 

Ferc Kast

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Does anyone know if Cricket Wireless would charge a fee for converting my physical Sim to an eSim in prep for getting a 14PM? Also, will there be a fee when transferring the eSim between the two devices?
 

ctjack

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Does anyone know if Cricket Wireless would charge a fee for converting my physical Sim to an eSim in prep for getting a 14PM? Also, will there be a fee when transferring the eSim between the two devices?
Did p sim to esim transfer of wife’s cricket- all at no cost under 5 minutes using the chat. You just need your 14pm + physical sim tucked into another unlocked/cricket locked phone with sim tray to receive text messages.
 

James Godfrey

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If your using dual eSIM on your iPhone is there anyway to select which number to send texts or make calls from on the Apple Watch?
 

ctjack

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If your using dual eSIM on your iPhone is there anyway to select which number to send texts or make calls from on the Apple Watch?
Yes and select anytime for calls, texts, and internet. For internet you can go as far ad combining the power of 2 sims.
 

DeanL

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if you have 2 phones how would this work ? i used to switch sim card between phones
That depends on your circumstances.
e.g. if it’s two iPhones that support eSIM, you could just use the eSIM transfer option.

If your carrier has an app that allows eSIM download, you could also use that.
 

alexcr

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I have a question about traveling with dual eSims, specifically with the iPhone 16.

Let's say I'm a U.S. citizen and Verizon customer who is going to be spending a couple months in Singapore. I can activate my second eSim with the relevant provider in Singapore, and that way can ensure coverage in Singapore. That part seems straightforward enough.

But what if I also want continued access to my Verizon number while in Singapore, in particular so that I'm able to check my text messages (both iMessage and SMS) and to receive security codes that are texted to me (which generally come via SMS), and perhaps also to make or receive the occasional phone call.

How can I maintain access to my Verizon number in this manner without constantly paying for Verizon Travel Pass days, which would quickly add up over the course of two months?

I found this post from another forum that walks through a way to do this using IMS, which I'm not that familiar with. The post is almost three years old, though, so perhaps there's a more simple way to accomplish this at this point.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
 

jtkboston

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This is harder than it should be. What we should have is the option to turn on airplane mode (disable all cellular radio access) or disable all roaming (not just data roaming) for a single line, so that it can keep active for service via wifi or another line's cellular data.

What you have to do instead is what that post talks about...in essence forcing the line to have no cellular data choice available.
 
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DeanL

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I have a question about traveling with dual eSims, specifically with the iPhone 16.

Let's say I'm a U.S. citizen and Verizon customer who is going to be spending a couple months in Singapore. I can activate my second eSim with the relevant provider in Singapore, and that way can ensure coverage in Singapore. That part seems straightforward enough.

But what if I also want continued access to my Verizon number while in Singapore, in particular so that I'm able to check my text messages (both iMessage and SMS) and to receive security codes that are texted to me (which generally come via SMS), and perhaps also to make or receive the occasional phone call.

How can I maintain access to my Verizon number in this manner without constantly paying for Verizon Travel Pass days, which would quickly add up over the course of two months?

I found this post from another forum that walks through a way to do this using IMS, which I'm not that familiar with. The post is almost three years old, though, so perhaps there's a more simple way to accomplish this at this point.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Depending on if Verizon allows Wi-Fi calling over foreign IP addresses, you should be able to force Wi-Fi calling over the data line of your Singapore SIM.
From the Wiki:

  • If you have data active on one line, and the other line doesn't have cellular service and the provider supports VoLTE, service will function using the active data on the other line. Essentially, it's like having Wi-Fi Calling, but it uses the data of one of the lines. Some people have reported you can force this by selecting manually a network you know your carrier doesn't allow (e.g. a competitor's) This also work while roaming: you can have one line with data, and have you secondary line use the data of the first line without incurring roaming charges. Tested with TELUS roaming in the US for data and Freedom Mobile line without roaming.
 
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Fred Zed

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Depending on if Verizon allows Wi-Fi calling over foreign IP addresses, you should be able to force Wi-Fi calling over the data line of your Singapore SIM.
From the Wiki:
I have forgotten what I did. But when I was back in the UK for two months in January I set my T-Mobile USA cellular data to off I think but I could still receive iMessages using the local UK SIM card , iMessages is set to use only my USA number in the iPhone settings menu I recall. I could be wrong.
I’m going to have to figure this one out again since I’m returning back to the UK soon. 😂
 

OneillSG

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I have forgotten what I did. But when I was back in the UK for two months in January I set my T-Mobile USA cellular data to off I think but I could still receive iMessages using the local UK SIM card , iMessages is set to use only my USA number in the iPhone settings menu I recall. I could be wrong.
I’m going to have to figure this one out again since I’m returning back to the UK soon. 😂
When I was in the UK recently I turned on international block in the t-mobile app and used my esim.net O2 data so my t-mobile line worked like it was on wifi calling the entire trip.
 
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Fred Zed

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When I was in the UK recently I turned on international block in the t-mobile app and used my esim.net O2 data so my t-mobile line worked like it was on wifi calling the entire trip.
I think I may have done something like that as well, but forgot. I do however remember not setting enabling my local UK SIM card for iMessages or FaceTime. iMessages was still set for use on my USA line. Under iMessages “reachable” I had and still have only my USA cell check marked.
 
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jtkboston

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When I was in the UK recently I turned on international block in the t-mobile app and used my esim.net O2 data so my t-mobile line worked like it was on wifi calling the entire trip.
Oh, that sounds pretty easy. I'll have to see if Verizon Wireless has something similar.
 

Smileyboy

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Dual eSim question.
I use an iPhone 14. Both of the eSims are in use, one business and one personal. I’m traveling to a foreign country and would like to use an esim app for data. Is it possible to add another esim to my iPhone, leaving the other line dormant until I return to the US? I’m hoping I don’t lose my line or that I will have to contact customer service to get one of my lines started up again.
 

OneillSG

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Dual eSim question.
I use an iPhone 14. Both of the eSims are in use, one business and one personal. I’m traveling to a foreign country and would like to use an esim app for data. Is it possible to add another esim to my iPhone, leaving the other line dormant until I return to the US? I’m hoping I don’t lose my line or that I will have to contact customer service to get one of my lines started up again.
Yes you can have more than two eSIM profiles on the phone the only restriction is only two can be active at a time
 

techiegirl

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That depends on your circumstances.
e.g. if it’s two iPhones that support eSIM, you could just use the eSIM transfer option.

If your carrier has an app that allows eSIM download, you could also use that.

If you have 2 iPhones (say 13 and 14 pro), can you use the eSIM transfer option and swap the line back and forth? Is there a limit as to how often it can be done?
 

ian87w

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Feb 22, 2020
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Really can't wait for Apple to just remove the SIM slot on iPhones worldwide because carriers in my country wouldn't do a thing until they are forced to. Eg. the top 3 carriers didn't even support VoLTE until the government decided to phase out 3G. I bet it will be the same with eSIM. Someone big has to put the foot down. Although Apple market share is not huge, iPhone users are generally premium customers for these carriers.

It is sad that some carriers are so lazy that drastic measures have to be taken. Right now, there is zero indications of any of the top 3 carriers to support eSIM despite Apple and Samsung have been supporting eSIM since the Xs and the original Galaxy Fold. Their excuses were to support small businesses (aka resellers selling physical SIM cards). It's BS as they can still do that while offering eSIM at the same time. Pure laziness.
 

DeanL

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If you have 2 iPhones (say 13 and 14 pro), can you use the eSIM transfer option and swap the line back and forth? Is there a limit as to how often it can be done?
You can if your carrier allows it.
If there is a limit, it would be imposed by your carrier.
 

Heat_Fan89

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If anyone here is using Mint Mobile, do they send you a physical Sim card if you setup any phone with eSim?
 
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