So you can have multiple eSIM profiles + a plastic SIM, but can only have 2 active at a time.
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YES, IF you must have 2 profiles active then one of them must be the physical SIM. You cannot have two eSIMs active at the same time.
Axel F.
So is the distinction with the 13 that you now can have two active eSims and no physical SIM, where with the 12 you could only have one eSim active after the required SIM was inserted?
You sure about this John? I know you can store multiple eSIMs on the iPhone however can only have one eSIM active at a time. Please confirm.
Axel F.
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Thanks for sharing. I stand corrected. DUAL eSIM support exists with iPhone 13 models. Thanks John.iPhone - Compare Models
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Axel F.
It seems iOS 15 hasn’t included any new dual SIM/eSIM functionality. I’ve been hoping for per-line phone notifications - such as the option to silence unknown callers on one line, but not the other. Another feature would be to have per-line ringtones.
Per-line ringtones would be awesome. I've been using dual SIM on my 11Pro for almost 2 years now, and I love it.
Another potentially useful feature would be to be able to filter the contacts list by preferred line.
Realistically, though... I think while Apple have provided us with the dual SIM capability, there are likely so few of us using it, that it's probably not a top priority for development of features such as these. Sadly.
Another potentially useful feature would be to be able to filter the contacts list by preferred line.
Realistically, though... I think while Apple have provided us with the dual SIM capability, there are likely so few of us using it, that it's probably not a top priority for development of features such as these. Sadly.
New with iPhone 13/Pro/Max/mini
New Features
- Dual-eSIM: two eSIMs, or one eSIM and one SIM can be active at the same time. Earlier iPhone generations could only do one physical SIM + one eSIM active at the same time.
Hi
I am trying to use Orange Romania (supporting VoWi-Fi) with secondary SIM
I forced the Orange SIM to always use Mobile Data from Vodafone (by changing Orange's SIM network search from automatic to manual and then select any network from the list except Orange, that way, Orange needs to use VoWi-Fi all the time)
All good, everything works as excepted.
The only problem is that after I close the screen and phone goes sleeping (5-10 minutes without getting any notifications that would wake up the phone), I cannot get calls on Orange.
If I get any messages or I power on the screen to check the clock, it works, until 5-10 minutes pass again.
I tried changing the phones and the secondary SIM but it's the same. It's not the network's fault, it's the OS...
I have iOS 14.7.1 and I don't really want to upgrade to iOS 15. But I want to ask here, can anybody from here test and let me know if the problem/behaviour persists in iOS 15 with this exact combination?
- a carrier that supports VoWi-Fi, has selected manual network search (to a forbidden carrier) to force using VoWi-Fi through second carrier's mobile data
- letting the phone going to deep sleep minimum 5 minutes without getting any notifications (this is the hardest part because you need mobile data ON)
- background app refresh disabled because I think that also prevents the phone from deep-sleeping
I also posted a video on YouTube so that you guys understand better my issue :
Thanks!
I am trying to use Orange Romania (supporting VoWi-Fi) with secondary SIM
I forced the Orange SIM to always use Mobile Data from Vodafone (by changing Orange's SIM network search from automatic to manual and then select any network from the list except Orange, that way, Orange needs to use VoWi-Fi all the time)
All good, everything works as excepted.
The only problem is that after I close the screen and phone goes sleeping (5-10 minutes without getting any notifications that would wake up the phone), I cannot get calls on Orange.
If I get any messages or I power on the screen to check the clock, it works, until 5-10 minutes pass again.
I tried changing the phones and the secondary SIM but it's the same. It's not the network's fault, it's the OS...
I have iOS 14.7.1 and I don't really want to upgrade to iOS 15. But I want to ask here, can anybody from here test and let me know if the problem/behaviour persists in iOS 15 with this exact combination?
- a carrier that supports VoWi-Fi, has selected manual network search (to a forbidden carrier) to force using VoWi-Fi through second carrier's mobile data
- letting the phone going to deep sleep minimum 5 minutes without getting any notifications (this is the hardest part because you need mobile data ON)
- background app refresh disabled because I think that also prevents the phone from deep-sleeping
I also posted a video on YouTube so that you guys understand better my issue :
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Sorry for the delay! Yes, as you found out, eSIMs survive restores that are not done on the iPhone itself
So, unless I Erase All Content and Settings on the iPhone, a DFU restore will retain the eSIM.
I have been in the habit of erasing all content and settings before doing the DFU restore. I will have to change this habit lest I lose my eSIM profiles on the 13 mini.
When you "Erase All Content and Settings" on the iPhone, it asks if you want to erase or keep the eSIM.
I decided to trust your words on this and give this a shake myself.
And the result is good. I can erase all content and keep profiles. It gives me a prompt towards the same.
This is such a relief. I can safely go ahead with eSIM profile (if I don’t want to use my SIM in another device ever).
WikiPost cleaned up and updated with the following new (and updated) articles from Apple:
- About eSIM on iPhone/Ways to activate eSIM
- Breakdown of eSIM services offered by mobile networks around the world (e.g. eSIM Quick Transfer or eSIM Carrier Activation)
- Get help with Dual SIM with an eSIM
- Use eSIM while traveling abroad with your iPhone
- If you can't set up an eSIM on your iPhone
- If Dual SIM with eSIM isn't working on your iPhone
- How to erase the eSIM on your iPhone
- Activate an eSIM on your iPhone or iPad in Turkey
New in iOS 16
New Features
- eSIM Quick Transfer on iPhone: Some carriers support SIM transfers from your previous iPhone to your new iPhone without needing to contact them.
- Transfer a physical SIM or eSIM on your previous iPhone to an eSIM on your new iPhone after setup.
- Convert a physical SIM to an eSIM
- Dual SIM Message Filtering : Filter conversations in Messages by individual SIM.
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Thank you for reviving this thread! I have posted a new question regarding eSIMs here, but with no answers so far. Maybe someone in this thread has an idea? 😊
Does this behavior still exist in iOS 16 for anyone? I also used to observe this behavior, but as of iOS 16 I do not. When I switch one of my lines, the line that was turned off no longer stays registered in iMessage, but is removed immediately. I also tried it on my wife's phone, and see the same behavior -- immediate removal from iMessage.
Thanks for any input. We're on iPhone 14 Pros for reference.
Mark
Question, is there anyway to rename the label assigned to my eSIM when only one eSIM is active on my phone? Mine is currently labelled primary so when I turn on my phone is asks for the pin for the eSIM Primary, however I would like to change it to personal.
Or can you only change the labels when you have more than 1 eSIM installed?
Thanks
Or can you only change the labels when you have more than 1 eSIM installed?
Thanks
You are correct. When there is only one SIM (either eSIM or a Physical SIM) then there is no option to change its name.
Axel F.
Are there any eSIM providers that will provision an eSIM before paying for a plan? If so, you could use that to provoke the phone to let you rename the Primary line
Not that I know of no, one option is to wait until PAYG sim become eSIMs get one put it on rename then remove I suppose.
If you are in th US, there might be a way. T-Mobile is running a promotion to measure their service against any other US carrier. Provided you iPhone is unlocked, the T-Mobile app provisions a “free“ e=sim for 90 days. No phone call required—-all through the T-Mobile app.