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mobilehaathi

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Just a peek.....and then some piques to come later in the post.

Clearly, you are having a highly enjoyable and well-deserved holiday. Coffee, pens, maps, Prokofiev. I am very happy for you. And, you are just one bridge and a bit of a drive away from one of my all-time favorite spots: Tintern Abbey, theme of one of my all-time favorite anythings. Years and years and years ago, when my then-employer sent me on my first trip ever to the UK (to the lovely little industrial town of Swindon.....currently, your neighbor) I hired a driver and car as I absolutely had to visit Tintern. It never disappoints.

Switching back to coffee for a second....

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Ethiopiques.....life is good.

2297.96 grams, I will lose 30% in roasting and inspection....1617.58 remaining, 18g "high" double ristretto shots.....89.87 shots of happiness in the bag right there.

Love this coffee.

Ohh, excellent! Mine ought to be waiting for me when I get back home on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to it...

Actually, in addition to the Gaggia, grinder, and beans, I bought another popcorn roaster. I'm planning to mod this one in order to roast to hotter temps. My current one will take most beans just beyond first crack, but I need something with a bit more power if I'm going to roast for espresso. I'm not planning to Vienna roast, but I'm not sure I want to pull shots with a City-City+ roast.

You people did this to me. I hope you're happy.
 

Kurwenal

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Ohh, excellent! Mine ought to be waiting for me when I get back home on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to it...

Actually, in addition to the Gaggia, grinder, and beans, I bought another popcorn roaster. I'm planning to mod this one in order to roast to hotter temps. My current one will take most beans just beyond first crack, but I need something with a bit more power if I'm going to roast for espresso. I'm not planning to Vienna roast, but I'm not sure I want to pull shots with a City-City+ roast.

Excellent. City+ on the pique, I think, is where I ended up last year. I'll drag out my notes and see if anything useful pops up.

Two roasters? Why, that is downright......compulsive.
You people did this to me. I hope you're happy.

I realize that going from quoting Wordsworth to Patton in just a few posts may cause a glitch in the Matrix....but.....

(Insert "the MR espresso thread" instead of "the great world war II")
 

Scepticalscribe

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Just a peek.....and then some piques to come later in the post.

Clearly, you are having a highly enjoyable and well-deserved holiday. Coffee, pens, maps, Prokofiev. I am very happy for you. And, you are just one bridge and a bit of a drive away from one of my all-time favorite spots: Tintern Abbey, theme of one of my all-time favorite anythings. Years and years and years ago, when my then-employer sent me on my first trip ever to the UK (to the lovely little industrial town of Swindon.....currently, your neighbor) I hired a driver and car as I absolutely had to visit Tintern. It never disappoints.

Switching back to coffee for a second....

Image

Ethiopiques.....life is good.

2297.96 grams, I will lose 30% in roasting and inspection....1617.58 remaining, 18g "high" double ristretto shots.....89.87 shots of happiness in the bag right there.

Love this coffee.

Composed a few miles.....

Excellent. City+ on the pique, I think, is where I ended up last year. I'll drag out my notes and see if anything useful pops up.

Two roasters? Why, that is downright......compulsive.


I realize that going from quoting Wordsworth to Patton in just a few posts may cause a glitch in the Matrix....but.....

(Insert "the MR espresso thread" instead of "the great world war II")

No, no. It is an untitled poem, commonly called Tintern Abbey, written by the romantic poet William Wordsworth.

Yes, I have visited Tintern Abbey, in the company of my present hosts, around seven years ago when I last visited them. They drove me to the spot, and indeed, it came up in conversation again today. That was a lovely day, with muted sunshine breaking through shafts of light. (Today, by contrast, in common with almost every other day since I arrived in the UK well over a week ago, it rained, and rained…..)

A lovely, tranquil, incredibly beautiful and - strangely, restful, and tranquilly silent - spot. Beautiful. And yes, Tintern Abbey, the poem (by William Wordsworth) is one I remember studying at school…….again, lovely….and very aptly cited and quoted…

Today, we visited Gloucester Cathedral (more imposing and majestic, but less elegant than the stunningly beautiful cathedral in Wells); hours were spent exploring, and my camera was put through its paces, with its fast lens thoroughly tested. (No, no pictures will be posted; this is because I'm still using a rather old manual camera - with stunning lenses - which runs on film……) It is clear that building on Gloucester Cathedral commenced in Norman times (massive Romanesque arches on the lower part of the building) and that the building was finished during the classical Gothic period.

Some interesting graves can also be found there; the grave of King Edward II (who was murdered in 1327), and the that of the eldest son of William the Conquerer, Robert, Duke of Normandy, who was imprisoned (for the best part of 30 years before dying) by one of the younger sons of William the Conquerer vie with many others…..

Then we drove to Cheltenham, much wealth, lovely, impressive, Georgian terraces, and some seriously good shops; no, we didn't stop, because Cirencester beckoned……now, that is a strange old town, Roman initially (an amphitheatre can be found just outside the town) where half-timbered houses from the Middle Ages jostle crookedly with Georgian and Victorian buildings in the town centre, and where a beautiful church offered a stunning example of Perpendicular architecture……

And yes, we managed coffee, too…….a caffe latte in Gloucester Cathedral, and a pot (Ethiopian coffee and a French press) which I am sipping, along with a glass or two of tawny port, as I write this…..
 
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mobilehaathi

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The internet is full of all sorts of amusing things...:p
 

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I just arrived home from another trip the Dessert Oasis Coffee shop in Rochester. This time I had a caffe mocha and my friend had a latte.

They do fantastic latte art!

Here is the caffe mocha:
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Here is the latte
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I also picked up some of their own roasted SO beans. They said they typically roast them between a City+ to a Full City. I haven't opened the bag yet to inspect them, but here is what it looks like (12 oz)

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Scepticalscribe

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Today, I got up late. Very late.

Tea in bed (my hosts are absolute darlings, and, yes, coffee might have been better, but - seriously - when Tender Loving Care is offered with unstinting love, can one complain if the cup - or mug - one is offered while aslumber is tea rather than coffee? I find - despite my rather well known strong preferences in this regard - that I cannot; moreover, my wonderful hosts do not fail to supply me with a pot - French press style - of real coffee when I present myself in the kitchen for a belated breakfast/brunch…..) and Peter Ackroyd's book (London: The Biography) delayed my appearance for belated breakfast/brunch. I like reading books in bed; sadly, they can delay my appearance in more civilised surroundings for hours….

Afternoon saw us, plus guesting, hairy, adolescent dog, heading off for a brief visit to an old medieval town called Bradford-on-Avon, which made a healthy income from the wool trade in the Middle Ages (as the handsome Medieval Tithe Barn, and wonderful medieval houses in the town will testify…..). Indeed, it must have done pretty well even before that, as the town also boasts a small, perfectly formed, - and perfectly preserved - Saxon Church….

This is a fascinating part of the country……and yes, coffee (and - to my muted, and utterly silent horror - tea…..) were offered during the day by others, - friends of my hosts - who, in turn, also hosted us…...
 

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Today, I got up late. Very late.

Tea in bed (my hosts are absolute darlings, and, yes, coffee might have been better, but - seriously - when Tender Loving Care is offered with unstinting love, can one complain if the cup - or mug - one is offered while aslumber is tea rather than coffee? I find - despite my rather well known strong preferences in this regard - that I cannot; moreover, my wonderful hosts do not fail to supply me with a pot - French press style - of real coffee when I present myself in the kitchen for a belated breakfast/brunch…..) and Peter Ackroyd's book (London: The Biography) delayed my appearance for belated breakfast/brunch.

Afternoon saw us, plus guesting, hairy, adolescent dog, heading off for a brief visit to an old medieval town called Bradford-on-Avon, which made a healthy income from the wool trade in the Middle Ages (as the handsome Medieval Tithe Barn, and wonderful medieval houses in the town will testify…..). Indeed, it must have done pretty well even before that, as the town also boasts a small, perfectly formed, - and perfectly preserved - Saxon Church….

This is a fascinating part of the country……and yes, coffee (and - to my muted, and utterly silent horror - tea…..) were offered during the day by others, - friends of my hosts - who, in turn, also hosted us…...

Sounds like a good time. I, for one, wouldn't complain one bit if I were served tea in bed! It certainly sounds like an area of great and interesting history; I'd like to hear more of it.
 

mobilehaathi

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I just arrived home from another trip the Dessert Oasis Coffee shop in Rochester. This time I had a caffe mocha and my friend had a latte.

They do fantastic latte art!

Here is the caffe mocha:
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Here is the latte
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I also picked up some of their own roasted SO beans. They said they typically roast them between a City+ to a Full City. I haven't opened the bag yet to inspect them, but here is what it looks like (12 oz)

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Ohh, nice! Incidentally, if you ever find yourself in Ann Arbor, there is a small coffee shop in Nickels Arcade called Comet Coffee which is worth a visit. :)

Today, I got up late. Very late.

Tea in bed (my hosts are absolute darlings, and, yes, coffee might have been better, but - seriously - when Tender Loving Care is offered with unstinting love, can one complain if the cup - or mug - one is offered while aslumber is tea rather than coffee? I find - despite my rather well known strong preferences in this regard - that I cannot; moreover, my wonderful hosts do not fail to supply me with a pot - French press style - of real coffee when I present myself in the kitchen for a belated breakfast/brunch…..) and Peter Ackroyd's book (London: The Biography) delayed my appearance for belated breakfast/brunch. I like reading books in bed; sadly, they can delay my appearance in more civilised surroundings for hours….

Afternoon saw us, plus guesting, hairy, adolescent dog, heading off for a brief visit to an old medieval town called Bradford-on-Avon, which made a healthy income from the wool trade in the Middle Ages (as the handsome Medieval Tithe Barn, and wonderful medieval houses in the town will testify…..). Indeed, it must have done pretty well even before that, as the town also boasts a small, perfectly formed, - and perfectly preserved - Saxon Church….

This is a fascinating part of the country……and yes, coffee (and - to my muted, and utterly silent horror - tea…..) were offered during the day by others, - friends of my hosts - who, in turn, also hosted us…...

You really do give me travel lust. Not that I needed much coaxing...

Sounds like a lovely time!
 

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Ohh, nice! Incidentally, if you ever find yourself in Ann Arbor, there is a small coffee shop in Nickels Arcade called Comet Coffee which is worth a visit. :)

If I'm going to go to Ann Arbor, I may as well stop by Northville on the way! Actually, Northville is closer than I thought the other day. I have friends I visit in Wixom and Northville isn't too far away. Then Ann Arbor is just a little further on down the road from there. One of these days....
 

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These towns I have been visiting tend to have perfect Georgian houses as well, (development did not cease in the 16th century) but - while I love Georgian architecture - I find the perfectly preserved medieval houses more fascinating. Aged, and sometimes crooked, with sloping floors, or roofs, other dodgy tilts, sagging windows, and otherwise less than perfect proportions, sometimes with later additions, such as sash windows, they are absolutely fascinating…..almost like something out of a fairy tale, or novel…..

Today, at a prompt, I stuck my head into a small craft fair in a perfect medieval hall - when asked, the vendors informed me proudly that it had been completed "in 1500"; I was struck by the fact that they didn't say 'the early 1500s', no, they said, twice, quite clearly (and very proudly) '1500'.

And then, there was the unexpected gem of being pointed towards, (by my grinning hosts - 'we thought you'd like this one') a real Saxon church (a building which is easily over a thousand years old, pre-dating, as it does, the Norman invasion of 1066) was wonderful; an understated treasure……

Yesterday, I had delighted in the incredible Perpendicular architecture of the church in Cirencester, and marvelled at some of the almost higgledy-piggledy architectural history of the town, where medieval leaned crookedly into Georgian which jostled against Victorian which co-existed edgily with more modern forms. Heritage designated with considerable income derived from the heritage and tourist industry, this most certainly was not. However, it was most interesting……to stroll these streets and speculate about the town's history…...
 
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I brewed the Dessert Oasis coffee this morning in the French Press. Its actually slightly more lightly roasted than the Tim Hortons beans are.

The smell is very good, sweet and strong. The taste is equally good and sweet. I'm impressed with it, especially since, so far, I haven't found a SO bean that I really liked before.

They had two other roasts beside the one I bought. I'll eventually try them out too and report back my findings at that time.

For now, this bean, even after only one cup, is now near the top of my favorites list. If Burger King actually does mess with the Tim Hortons coffee, I have found a replacement for it in the Dessert Oasis.
 

Kurwenal

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Lots of great posts over the past two days.

Shrink: get better. You are missed.


A lovely, tranquil, incredibly beautiful and - strangely, restful, and tranquilly silent - spot. Beautiful. And yes, Tintern Abbey, the poem (by William Wordsworth) is one I remember studying at school…….again, lovely….and very aptly cited and quoted…

I know what I did was passe, and perhaps even touristy, but I sat in that exact spot and read that poem for a very peaceful afternoon, years ago. One of the most tranquil and peaceful afternoons I have ever spent, with a nice claret. The next day was my first visit to Notre Dame, where I talked my way past the closed doors and was honored to listen to the rehearsal for an organ recital.....toccata and fugue in d minor even. Other than memories involving my family, if I could live two consecutive days over, it might be those two.

Today, we visited Gloucester Cathedral (more imposing and majestic, but less elegant than the stunningly beautiful cathedral in Wells)

I have never been there....so I will just say a Google-inspired "wow" and I have added it to my list for a future trip.


I also picked up some of their own roasted SO beans. They said they typically roast them between a City+ to a Full City. I haven't opened the bag yet to inspect them, but here is what it looks like (12 oz)

Outstanding. Always good to support the local roasters, and this one has the mark of a good one: a date on the beans.

I love a good coffee shop, even if it means (as it usually does) a step down in quality. I am fortunate to have three places nearby (well, within a 15 minute drive) that each roast their own beans, one west, one north, one east. The one west keeps banker's hours and so I rarely visit (never understood a coffee shop that doesn't open until 8 am on a Sunday....really?). The one north is right next to a university and, while very good, is a bit too hip for me. The one east is my favorite (and the owner is now a friend, as we have discussed his gigantic 25 lb. per batch roaster over the years). I love it, from about 5:30 am to 7:00 am, on a weekend. At about 7:00 am, it starts to get too busy and I leave.

Anyway, this morning, after pulling 126 shots of various types on my La Marzacco yesterday (more on that later), this morning I felt like I just wanted to drink, not pull, and I enjoyed reading three newspapers over 3 doppios at the coffee shot to the east.

For me, a coffee shop must roast its own, have very high quality shots with baristas who care about the difference, no annoying loud music, not crowded, perhaps even a bit darkly lit. The not crowded part is key.



Today, I got up late. Very late.

Tea in bed (my hosts are absolute darlings, and, yes, coffee might have been better, but - seriously - when Tender Loving Care is offered with unstinting love, can one complain if the cup - or mug - one is offered while aslumber is tea rather than coffee? I find - despite my rather well known strong preferences in this regard - that I cannot; moreover, my wonderful hosts do not fail to supply me with a pot - French press style - of real coffee when I present myself in the kitchen for a belated breakfast/brunch…..) and Peter Ackroyd's book (London: The Biography) delayed my appearance for belated breakfast/brunch. I like reading books in bed; sadly, they can delay my appearance in more civilised surroundings for hours….

Afternoon saw us, plus guesting, hairy, adolescent dog, heading off for a brief visit to an old medieval town called Bradford-on-Avon, which made a healthy income from the wool trade in the Middle Ages (as the handsome Medieval Tithe Barn, and wonderful medieval houses in the town will testify…..). Indeed, it must have done pretty well even before that, as the town also boasts a small, perfectly formed, - and perfectly preserved - Saxon Church….

This is a fascinating part of the country……and yes, coffee (and - to my muted, and utterly silent horror - tea…..) were offered during the day by others, - friends of my hosts - who, in turn, also hosted us…...

I love your travel-journal posts, Scepticalscribe. The rich detail creates a vivid picture in my mind and I can imagine myself walking down the path next to you. I wish I actually was!

Agree 100% on "ok coffee + friends" is better than "perfect coffee no friends." As we have all remarked so many times, coffee is a social experience. Well, except for when I am going after a God Shot....in that case, best to be alone. ;)


I brewed the Dessert Oasis coffee this morning in the French Press. Its actually slightly more lightly roasted than the Tim Hortons beans are.

The smell is very good, sweet and strong. The taste is equally good and sweet. I'm impressed with it, especially since, so far, I haven't found a SO bean that I really liked before.

They had two other roasts beside the one I bought. I'll eventually try them out too and report back my findings at that time.

For now, this bean, even after only one cup, is now near the top of my favorites list. If Burger King actually does mess with the Tim Hortons coffee, I have found a replacement for it in the Dessert Oasis.

Sounds like a winner. I just looked them up; unfortunately, they do not have an online coffee business.
 

Kurwenal

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This will be my first substantive post on the La Marzocco GS/3. I have not wanted to say much about it until I felt like I truly understand the machine. I have been pulling shots with it consistently for about one month, and yesterday I was able to devote 7 hours to playing and testing the machine, over (per my notes) 126 shots of different types (I tasted most, but drank very few).

First, I will not try to justify either the price or paying the price. As with nearly everything having to do with espresso, the price is absurd and I never would have purchased this for myself. Coming as a gift, during a dire time, meant to promote looking forward and being optimistic about life, the machine is most welcome and I suspect I will not get the itch to buy another machine for at least a few more weeks.....although I suspect the GS/3 will never join the 13 other espresso-machines-of-the-past that I have sitting in a cabinet and with which I am unable to part.

Second, most of the comparisons here will be to my Rocket R58 v2 and my old but still trusty and loved La Pavoni lever.

Third, do I think you/your neighbor/your friend should buy one? I have no idea.

OK, with that out of the way.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

I could stop there. But you know me better than that......

Wow.

Did I mention wow?

OK, enough of that.

First, so what's the point of this machine? Why do the reviews swoon? To understand that, you have to understand the philosophy of the machine, which I would summarize as: fanatical consistency. Really, that's it. The machine is designed to allow for as-perfect-as-possible consistency. The basic idea: everything is tweakable/futzable/adjustable (really, nearly everything). You tweak and futz and adjust, and then you can save all of that tweaking/futzing/adjusting into a memory and produce exactly the same cup, down to the 100th of the degree, or the 10th of a gram, or the 10th of a bar.

Let me give you one example. One thing you can tweak/futz/adjust is the time between the point at which the pre-infusion stops and the regular cycle begins. Many machines have pre-infusion, some even let you play (manually or automatically) with the timing, but I have never before owned a machine that lets you with such precision tweak the exact time between the instant the pre-infusion stops and the regular cycle begins. I never knew it mattered. Yes, the difference can be seen (errr.....tasted) in the taste. And, like everything on this over-engineered machine, you can adjust the time not just in seconds, but in 10ths of a second. I cannot detect a difference in taste between, say, a .5 second delay and a .8 second delay, but a difference of between .5 second and 1 second is easily tasted.

About half of yesterday's shots were once I discovered and became fascinated with this one little setting. So, per the machine's philosophy, I adjusted, tweaked, and futzed....and then I found the setting I liked the best and stored it. Every shot I pull (using that particular setting) will use exactly that same delay. Fanatical consistency.

And, the cool part is this: when I switch coffee, or when the coffee goes from 2 days to 5 days old, I suspect I will need to adjust that one tiny, seemingly trivial setting, and learn the whole thing over again. Merveilleux.

Second, so is there any way to explain (not justify) the cost? Well, not really, but the machine is massively over-engineered. Let me give you one example. Flip the machine on, come back 24 minutes later, and the coffee boiler pressure gauge will be sitting there smiling at you with 12 bars on its face. What? 12 bars? But that will ruin the shot. Ah, yes, but then pull a shot and notice that the gauge drops to 9 bars. Not 9.1, not 8.9, not a bouncing needs like so many other machine. 9 bars. Perfectly. 9 bars at the start, 9 bars in the middle, 9 bars at the end. The consistency is a perfect flat line. No ramp up, no ramp down. Just a pretty flat line.

Even for a triple ristretto (which the Rocket struggles with and the Lever, well, no chance), the GS/3 just hums along and does not exhibit even the slightest struggle. 23 dry grams to produce 38 grams of perfect ristretto-ness in 28 seconds.....the machine just smiles at you, quietly.

Everything is over-engineered. I have not measured myself yet, but the temperature and pressure graphs (among others) show perfect flat lines. None of this "the shot starts out at 202 degrees and is at 180 by the end of the shot." Remember, fanatical consistency.

Third, as you all know, I am passionate about my twin Mazzer Mini's. Wonderful, wonderful grinders, incredible consistency.

With the GS/3, I am now in the market for a new grinder.....probably a titan. There is always the weakest link in any chain, and in my espresso chain, it is now the Mazzers.

Fourth, it is, of course, all about the taste in the cup. Today, I cannot produce a better tasting cup than I can with the Rocket, or even the Lever (on a single). Well, other than a triple ristretto, where even with my limited skills the GS/3 knocks the Rocket aside.

But, it is as clear as day to me that, with time, the GS/3 will produce tastes that I cannot produce on my other machines. Nearly every problem with an espresso occurs on the non-machine side of the portafilter, and that is certainly true in my case and especially with the GS/3. But, in a year, I believe I will be pulling ristrettos that I could never produce on my other machines. For now, I throw away about half of my "I intend to drink this" shots on the GS/3. That will change, over time.

So, to fanatical consistency, I add: anticipation.

Fifth, you can run this machine as a manual, but I don't know why you would want to. The "philosophy" is to futz and then be able to repeat, exactly and down to the 10th of a degree or gram, the futzing. It would be a huge waste of money to buy this machine in the expectation of running it manually for anything other than the occasional new type of coffee you just want to play with once.

In this regard, I cannot imagine a worse machine for someone like our friend Shrink, given his likes and dislikes.

Sixth, you can also run this machine as a full auto....just plug it in, bleed the boilers (which is easy and must be done only once), add water and start pulling shots. But, as with a pure manual operation, I'm not sure why anyone would want to buy this machine and just push the auto button. The joy, the taste, the incredible quality, comes only with many, many hours of futzing.

Seventh, it is not perfect. As reported in most reviews, the drip tray is annoyingly hard to remove and re-attach; the Rocket design, with magnets, is much better. But, the machine's makers, I suspect, expect most of these machines to be plumbed, and they are probably correct.

I have much to learn, and I look forward to playing with the GS/3 over the next year or so. It will take that long until I feel like I truly "get" the machine. But, what a fantastic journey it will be, goaded on by reviews like this one from one of Stumptown's founders:

The GS3, in the hands of a skilled barista and with great coffee, produces truly excellent espresso with shocking ease. It is a genuinely revolutionary espresso machine. The combination of the technology involved, the design and engineering, and the materials and components used create a tool that enables a skilled barista to do wonderful things. With this machine, the experience of exploring and understanding espresso becomes easier and more practical.

Over the course of the evaluation of the GS3, it became an object of great desire and even lust for all who pulled shots on it. In every case, the discussion rapidly proceeded from "is it a good machine?" to "do I like it?" to "is it better than X?" (fill in "Linea" or "Synesso" for X) and eventually to "is it the best machine you've used?" Drips of a naked pour and finally to "oh I want one!" This conversation was largely fueled by the results when pulling shots.

There you have it. My first GS/3 post.

And, here is the lovely machine just this morning, nested in next to a Mazzer and the still-lovely Rocket.

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Scepticalscribe

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In a coffee shop.
Lots of great posts over the past two days.

Shrink: get better. You are missed.




I know what I did was passe, and perhaps even touristy, but I sat in that exact spot and read that poem for a very peaceful afternoon, years ago. One of the most tranquil and peaceful afternoons I have ever spent, with a nice claret. The next day was my first visit to Notre Dame, where I talked my way past the closed doors and was honored to listen to the rehearsal for an organ recital.....toccata and fugue in d minor even. Other than memories involving my family, if I could live two consecutive days over, it might be those two.



I have never been there....so I will just say a Google-inspired "wow" and I have added it to my list for a future trip.




Outstanding. Always good to support the local roasters, and this one has the mark of a good one: a date on the beans.

I love a good coffee shop, even if it means (as it usually does) a step down in quality. I am fortunate to have three places nearby (well, within a 15 minute drive) that each roast their own beans, one west, one north, one east. The one west keeps banker's hours and so I rarely visit (never understood a coffee shop that doesn't open until 8 am on a Sunday....really?). The one north is right next to a university and, while very good, is a bit too hip for me. The one east is my favorite (and the owner is now a friend, as we have discussed his gigantic 25 lb. per batch roaster over the years). I love it, from about 5:30 am to 7:00 am, on a weekend. At about 7:00 am, it starts to get too busy and I leave.

Anyway, this morning, after pulling 126 shots of various types on my La Marzacco yesterday (more on that later), this morning I felt like I just wanted to drink, not pull, and I enjoyed reading three newspapers over 3 doppios at the coffee shot to the east.

For me, a coffee shop must roast its own, have very high quality shots with baristas who care about the difference, no annoying loud music, not crowded, perhaps even a bit darkly lit. The not crowded part is key.





I love your travel-journal posts, Scepticalscribe. The rich detail creates a vivid picture in my mind and I can imagine myself walking down the path next to you. I wish I actually was!

Agree 100% on "ok coffee + friends" is better than "perfect coffee no friends." As we have all remarked so many times, coffee is a social experience. Well, except for when I am going after a God Shot....in that case, best to be alone. ;)




Sounds like a winner. I just looked them up; unfortunately, they do not have an online coffee business.

Thank you.

I'm delighted that you agree with me re Tintern Abbey - what a lovely, quiet, tranquil, and yes, spiritual space. Balm for the soul, in fact, and a wonderful poem which does justice to the whole experience….

While perusing medieval cathedrals, I suggest you take a look at Wells which I also visited this week; it is absolutely gorgeous, what a beautiful and special space, light, airy (not at all brooding as so many medieval buildings are), clean lines, stunning ceiling and roof, a relatively small, but utterly perfect, space.

The farmers' market at Wells, was jolly good, too, and I bought artisan cheeses, salamis, sausages, and wonderful honey harvested from local sources. Delicious…

And, as you all were kind enough to enquire after me last week, while I chilled, and spluttered, I echo your concern for Dr Shrink. The coffee threads are not the same without his wry and wonderful input. I hope you recover soon, Shrink, and make a welcome reappearance in these threads…..


This will be my first substantive post on the La Marzocco GS/3. I have not wanted to say much about it until I felt like I truly understand the machine. I have been pulling shots with it consistently for about one month, and yesterday I was able to devote 7 hours to playing and testing the machine, over (per my notes) 126 shots of different types (I tasted most, but drank very few).

First, I will not try to justify either the price or paying the price. As with nearly everything having to do with espresso, the price is absurd and I never would have purchased this for myself. Coming as a gift, during a dire time, meant to promote looking forward and being optimistic about life, the machine is most welcome and I suspect I will not get the itch to buy another machine for at least a few more weeks.....although I suspect the GS/3 will never join the 13 other espresso-machines-of-the-past that I have sitting in a cabinet and with which I am unable to part.

Second, most of the comparisons here will be to my Rocket R58 v2 and my old but still trusty and loved La Pavoni lever.

Third, do I think you/your neighbor/your friend should buy one? I have no idea.

OK, with that out of the way.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

I could stop there. But you know me better than that......

Wow.

Did I mention wow?

OK, enough of that.




There you have it. My first GS/3 post.

And, here is the lovely machine just this morning, nested in next to a Mazzer and the still-lovely Rocket.

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What can I say but 'wow'? Great - and splendidly comprehensive - post, and makes me even more interested in this insanely expensive, but clearly marvellous, machine…..
 

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Lots of great posts over the past two days.

Shrink: get better. You are missed.

I fear the worst for Shrink. He's been down all week and not getting too much better yet. Even worse, his email to me today was titled ....rosebud.... and as we all know, that was the dying words of Mr. Charles Foster Kane.

Outstanding. Always good to support the local roasters, and this one has the mark of a good one: a date on the beans.

Yep. It was one of the first things I noticed, and was glad to see when I picked up the bag. The guy working there seemed to know his stuff too as I was asking some very specific questions about their roasting process and what equipment they used. For their espresso grinder, they have a pair of Mazzers next to one another. I couldn't see which model they were specifically, but they appeared to be the Rocket.

I love a good coffee shop, even if it means (as it usually does) a step down in quality. I am fortunate to have three places nearby (well, within a 15 minute drive) that each roast their own beans, one west, one north, one east. The one west keeps banker's hours and so I rarely visit (never understood a coffee shop that doesn't open until 8 am on a Sunday....really?). The one north is right next to a university and, while very good, is a bit too hip for me. The one east is my favorite (and the owner is now a friend, as we have discussed his gigantic 25 lb. per batch roaster over the years). I love it, from about 5:30 am to 7:00 am, on a weekend. At about 7:00 am, it starts to get too busy and I leave.

Anyway, this morning, after pulling 126 shots of various types on my La Marzacco yesterday (more on that later), this morning I felt like I just wanted to drink, not pull, and I enjoyed reading three newspapers over 3 doppios at the coffee shot to the east.

For me, a coffee shop must roast its own, have very high quality shots with baristas who care about the difference, no annoying loud music, not crowded, perhaps even a bit darkly lit. The not crowded part is key.

It's a nice little coffee shop and the ideal atmosphere you desire is not unlike mine and this shop fits it pretty good. Though they do have live entertainment on a regular basis, the two times I've been there now, no one was playing - and that's fine by me. I prefer my settings to be more quiet most of the time.

Sounds like a winner. I just looked them up; unfortunately, they do not have an online coffee business.

If you're interested, I have no problem picking up a bag and shipping it to you upon my next visit there.
 

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I am truly sorry to hear that Shrink is still feeling rotten; I hope he recovers soon, and is able to do what may be necessary to facilitate his powers of recuperate (bed rest, warmth, lots of sleep, warm liquids and the blissful ease of being able to 'switch off', giving himself time to rest and realising that one cannot be 'on', or 'on the go' all of the time, you have to switch off, occasionally…….)

'Rosebud'; I much mislike the sound of this…..

For my part, I have been under the weather for the past fortnight (which - needless to say - coincides completely with my holiday), and am only now beginning to get over it.

Mr Kurwenal, may the gods I don't quite believe in forgive you for making for a seductively sensual post about a, a, a, ……..coffee-maker……..

That post about the La Marzocco GS/3 is pure coffee pornography…….

 

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You, my friend, are quite the inspiration! ;)

I fear the worst for Shrink. He's been down all week and not getting too much better yet. Even worse, his email to me today was titled ....rosebud.... and as we all know, that was the dying words of Mr. Charles Foster Kane.

Oh no, poor Shrinky. :( Although perhaps I may infer that he maintains high spirits: titling an email rosebud strikes me as a bit of dark humor.

I'll have to set my good juju generator on overdrive...
 

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An update on Shrink, as of 4 pm, eastern time, his coughing has subsided considerably and now he's just feeling weak mostly. He has the flu so it will probably be another week before he's back to normal I bet. But he's hanging in there!

Mr. Kurwenal, I didn't have time to read your review of the GS/3 earlier today, but now have. Wonderful I should say, just wonderful. That must have been some work; 7 hours and 126 shots! Work it may have been, but I suspect, no doubt, that you enjoyed every 10th of a second doing it. :D
 

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An update on Shrink, as of 4 pm, eastern time, his coughing has subsided considerably and now he's just feeling weak mostly. He has the flu so it will probably be another week before he's back to normal I bet. But he's hanging in there!

Mr. Kurwenal, I didn't have time to read your review of the GS/3 earlier today, but now have. Wonderful I should say, just wonderful. That must have been some work; 7 hours and 126 shots! Work it may have been, but I suspect, no doubt, that you enjoyed every 10th of a second doing it. :D

Good news! The juju machine must have worked this time. :p "Rosebud" is one thing; let's just hope he doesn't start whispering "...Londinium..." :D
 

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Mr Kurwenal, may the gods I don't quite believe in forgive you for making for a seductively sensual post about a, a, a, ……..coffee-maker……..

That post about the La Marzocco GS/3 is pure coffee pornography…….

You, my friend, are quite the inspiration! ;)

Wonderful I should say, just wonderful.

:D

An update on Shrink, as of 4 pm, eastern time, his coughing has subsided considerably and now he's just feeling weak mostly. He has the flu so it will probably be another week before he's back to normal I bet. But he's hanging in there!

Good news. Feel better, Shrink.

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Methinks there are some new elephants hereabouts.
 
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