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[Macky-Mac]

What do you use the 03 size filter papers for?

Hario makes their V60 dipper in 3 different sizes; 01, 02, 03. The 02 is by far the most common size.

I'm using their immersion dripper, which they call the Hario Switch. It's a v60 dripper with an attached base that has a switch at the bottom. It comes in the 02 and 03 sizes, and I have the larger 03 size, so that's why I need the 03 filters.

With the switch closed, the coffee brews in the hot water, similar to a French Press, and then after a few minutes you open the switch and the brewed coffee pours thru the filter into the mug

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Hario makes their V60 dipper in 3 different sizes; 01, 02, 03. The 02 is by far the most common size.

I'm using their immersion dripper, which they call the Hario Switch. It's a v60 dripper with an attached base that has a switch at the bottom. It comes in the 02 and 03 sizes, and I have the larger 03 size, so that's why I need the 03 filters.

With the switch closed, the coffee brews in the hot water, similar to a French Press, and then after a few minutes you open the switch and the brewed coffee pours thru the filter into the mug

Ah, fascinating.

Thank you for the explanation.

That makes complete sense.

For myself, I tend to use the 02 size most of the time (and once, because I was sipping beer and not fully concentrating on what I was doing, I ordered the 01 by mistake, which turned out okay, as I tend to use it in the dripper over a mug, and, while 02 is better, 01 worked out quite well).

 

[Macky-Mac]

Ah, fascinating.

Thank you for the explanation.

That makes complete sense.

For myself, I tend to use the 02 size most of the time (and once, because I was sipping beer and not fully concentrating on what I was doing, I ordered the 01 by mistake, which turned out okay, as I tend to use it in the dripper over a mug, and, while 02 is better, 01 worked out quite well).

I could of course use the 02 filters if necessary, but my order of new 03 filters was just delivered, so I'm now well stocked with filters.

 

[culo77]

I don't have an espresso machine, thus, actual espressos are a treat for when I am out (or when working abroad, which is when and where I live on them).

Thus, for myself, and, as you so rightly observe, for convenience, I tend to prepare my coffee in the form of a pour over mostly, (V60 Hario filter).

Very, very occasionally, I will offer coffee via moka pot to friends, that is, good friends, good friends whom I know to be coffee fiends, and who are not in a hurry on that particular day.

Moka Pot, that is one I have not gotten into yet. I was like you would treat myself to an espresso from a cafe. Then I was gifted a nespresso pod espresso machine, did that for 2 years always disappointed in it not being remotely close to a cafe. So went to an AeroPress because it was easier to learn than a V60 and waaaay cheaper than a home espresso machine. Still craved the espresso texture so got a FlairEspresso and was slapped in the face with the learning curve of home espresso, hence the reason I sometimes do a cappuccino to mask a bad shot. Then when the wife tasted my AeroPress on vacation, she asked for one each morning. I could get a good 2 cup recipe so I am now a V60 guy.

for average guests I have a French press and the Nespresso machine, for coffee nerd guests I will brew 2 big v60 batches with the good bean, of close friends I will treat them to the flair.

And, I am also thinking of purchasing a Chemex coffee maker/pot (Chemex filter papers - which can be difficult to obtain - were included in this week's coffee order).

I thought about the chemex, the size for my uses is just too big. And would probably be just for when guest come over.

 

[culo77]

I could of course use the 02 filters if necessary, but my order of new 03 filters was just delivered, so I'm now well stocked with filters.

Depends on the recipe. I am primarily am a 4:6 method or five pour person, I have a 02 dripper, so I can get away with a 01 size for an about 400ml. I usually buy what ever size is in stock, so I have 01, 02, and 03.

I have looked into other filters than Hario but the price steers me away. Have you used any others? did you find a difference?

 

[Macky-Mac]

Depends on the recipe. I am primarily am a 4:6 method or five pour person, I have a 02 dripper, so I can get away with a 01 size for an about 400ml. I usually buy what ever size is in stock, so I have 01, 02, and 03.

I have looked into other filters than Hario but the price steers me away. Have you used any others? did you find a difference?

For use with my various Hario products, I've stayed with their filters. They're generally easy to find in the 02 size and I have several of Hario's 02 sized drippers in addition to the Hario 03 Switch that I'm currently using. I bought the 03 size because I wanted a larger amount of coffee in my mug in the morning.

Chemex now makes a smaller product that's reasonably sized for brewing just one or two cups. Clearly it's aimed at the pour-over market for individuals. It looks different than the traditional Chemex but uses the same filter concept. It's called the Funnex. I used one for a while and found that it makes an excellent cup of coffee. Unlike the larger Chemex products it required folding a filter to use. Not offering prefolded filters is a marketing mistake in my opinion. Filter folding was a definite negative when I was barely awake and making my morning coffee.

Then a friend loaned me a couple of immersion dripper, the Hario Switch and a CLEVER dripper. I liked both but ended up buying the Hario product and I stopped using the Funnex.

 

[adrianlondon]

I've been reading about "Hario Drippers" for a while now, and paid no attention to learning what they are. However, after the last few posts thought I might as well google it to work out what all the fuss is about and, in the process, educate myself a bit.

I now learn that a Hario V60 is not too different to a Vietnamese dripper (called a Phin Filter) which I've been using for years. That's good news as it's saved me some money now that I know I don't need to buy a V60. Of course, "need" and "want" are not the same, so maybe I'll be posting back here in a few weeks so say I bought one anyway.

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[Scepticalscribe]

I've been reading about "Hario Drippers" for a while now, and paid no attention to learning what they are. However, after the last few posts thought I might as well google it to work out what all the fuss is about and, in the process, educate myself a bit.

I now learn that a Hario V60 is not too different to a Vietnamese dripper (called a Phin Filter) which I've been using for years. That's good news as it's saved me some money now that I know I don't need to buy a V60. Of course, "need" and "want" are not the same, so maybe I'll be posting back here in a few weeks so say I bought one anyway.

Vietnamese Coffee Press vs. V60

Vietnamese Coffee Press vs. V60 When it comes to coffee brewing methods, the third wave of speciality coffee has introduced a lot of new options, while also going back to some tried and true methods. Among coffee lovers, and in many cafes, the emphasis is increasingly on pour-over brewing...

www.belvico.com

My mother brought me back a plastic V60 Hario dripper from the Netherlands - where she had been on a brief holiday visiting art galleries - as a (sought and requested - by me - and very welcome) gift.

At that time, (early to mid 1990s) V60 Hario drippers were hard to find here; I loved the convenience of being able to make a cup of real coffee, rather than having to prepare a pot, with a French Press, every time I wanted a cup of coffee (which is how I usually prepared coffee at that time). I also loved the portability of the dripper, and the fact that it was made from plastic meant it was easy to transport.

Filter papers (Melitta also makes them) were easy enough to find, and the health stores stock unbleached versions.

Over the years, I have added ceramic Hario drippers (the classic, standard, elegant Hario dripper), a copper Hario dripper (gorgeous), and an absolutely lovely Japanese handmade wooden one, to my original plastic V60 Hario dripper.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Sunday afternoon coffees (relaxed Sunday coffees) are some of my favourite coffees of the week.

 

[adrianlondon]

The Vietnamese drippers are extremely portable, and they don't require filter papers. However, they make a small, strong coffee so I use my cafetiere when I want a larger, milder one.

It seems the V60 fills a gap in between those two options.

 

[Macky-Mac]

The Vietnamese drippers are extremely portable, and they don't require filter papers. However, they make a small, strong coffee so I use my cafetiere when I want a larger, milder one.

It seems the V60 fills a gap in between those two options.

It seems I have too many coffee making devices.......I have both a phin and a French press (aka cafetiere). For years there was a great Vietnamese restaurant within walking distance of my apartment. I loved having hot coffee made the traditional Vietnamese way. And as you say, small and strong.

If my memory is correct, I think I bought the phin and some vietnamese grown robusta coffee after reading a post of yours some time ago.

However, when it comes to first thing in the morning coffee, ease of clean up comes into the picture. All the coffee making options using paper filters have a decided advantage when fumbling around in the semi darkness of early morning. Yes, it's not "hard" to clean up a french press, an aero press, an espresso filter, percolator basket, etc......but it's always messier!

 

[Scepticalscribe]

It seems I have too many coffee making devices.......I have both a phin and a French press (aka cafetiere). For years there was a great Vietnamese restaurant within walking distance of my apartment. I loved having hot coffee made the traditional Vietnamese way. And as you say, small and strong.

I would be fascinated to learn more about the Vietnamese phin; this is the first I have ever heard of it.

If my memory is correct, I think I bought the phin and some vietnamese grown robusta coffee after reading a post of yours some time ago.

Fascinating.

As that part of the world tends - culturally - to have a marked preference for tea, I would imagine that the French colonial influence had something to do with the development of a specific coffee culture in what is now Vietnam.

However, when it comes to first thing in the morning coffee, ease of clean up comes into the picture. All the coffee making options using paper filters have a decided advantage when fumbling around in the semi darkness of early morning. Yes, it's not "hard" to clean up a french press, an aero press, an espresso filter, percolator basket, etc......but it's always messier!

Oh, gosh, yes.

If you are not a morning person (and I, emphatically, am not, especially in the dread darkness of deepest, dreariest, darkest winter), ease of preparation (and yes, clean-up) counts for a lot when preparing your morning cup of coffee.

For me, especially if (when) I am in a bit of a rush in the morning, the V60 Hario dripper is the fastest, and most reliable, method of coffee preparation available, and is something I can do without too much thought.

 

[adrianlondon]

I have a few phin filters, as they cost close to nothing in Vietnam itself.

I've just grabbed a couple of stock photos as it's too late (8:30pm) for me to make a robusta coffee right now, with its high caffeine content.

(As for my just-got-up coffee, I press a button on my DeLonghi espresso machine and it does everything.)



So, you put ground coffee in the chamber, use the filter press to tamp the coffee down quite hard. The chamber, with the press inside, is put on the "cup spanner" which sits on top of the cup or glass. Then you add a few drops of water to prime the coffee, wait a few seconds, then add boiling water until the chamber is full. Then add the cap to keep everything nice nand toasty.



The white line at the bottom is sweet condensed milk - very common in this part of Asia. If I have some, I use it, otherwise full fat milk or cream works.

Once all the water has dripped through, just rinse everything under a hot tap and you're ready to go again.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I have a few phin filters, as they cost close to nothing in Vietnam itself.

I've just grabbed a couple of stock photos as it's too late (8:30pm) for me to make a robusta coffee right now, with its high caffeine content.

(As for my just-got-up coffee, I press a button on my DeLonghi espresso machine and it does everything.)

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So, you put ground coffee in the chamber, use the filter press to tamp the coffee down quite hard. The chamber, with the press inside, is put on the "cup spanner" which sits on top of the cup or glass. Then you add a few drops of water to prime the coffee, wait a few seconds, then add boiling water until the chamber is full. Then add the cap to keep everything nice nand toasty.

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The white line at the bottom is sweet condensed milk - very common in this part of Asia. If I have some, I use it, otherwise full fat milk or cream works.

Once all the water has dripped through, just rinse everything under a hot tap and you're ready to go again.

Thank you.

That is absolutely fascinating (and I appreciate that you included images of the relevant parts of the device with foolproof instructions on how one ought to use them when preparing coffee); I love to learn new things and I had never heard of phin filters until now.

Exceedingly interesting.

 

[culo77]

It seems I have too many coffee making devices.......I have both a phin and a French press (aka cafetiere).

I have a few phin filters, as they cost close to nothing in Vietnam itself.

Oh no, now you both have peaked my interest. I need to breathe and keep repeating "I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device".

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Oh no, now you both have peaked my interest. I need to breathe and keep repeating "I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device".

Studying (closely, and I could swear that it winked at me) a Chemex coffee maker/pot recently, I, too, kept muttering to myself something similar to your mantra: "I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device."

And then, when I ordered both coffee (a few different coffees), and coffee filter papers (Hario V60 Size 02, my usual), somehow, inexplicably, an order for the special filter papers manufactured and produced for use with the Chemex made their way into my order, as well.

 

[culo77]

Then a friend loaned me a couple of immersion dripper, the Hario Switch and a CLEVER dripper. I liked both but ended up buying the Hario product and I stopped using the Funnex.

I wanted to get the switch, but when I was buying the v60 they were all sold out and seem to be for a while. I may pick up. Clever dripper, but I just have too much stuff that I realized it was out of control about 6 months ago.

Now I am just focused on finding different local roasters and trying different beans, slowly donating the grinders and coffee makers I don't use to friend who are getting into this shared addiction.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I wanted to get the switch, but when I was buying the v60 they were all sold out and seem to be for a while. I may pick up. Clever dripper, but I just have too much stuff that I realized it was out of control about 6 months ago.

You can never have too much coffee stuff.

Now I am just focused on finding different local roasters and trying different beans,

That is an excellent idea and a very good way to find out what your taste profile and preferences are, or to extend your knowledge.

slowly donating the grinders and coffee makers I don't use to friend who are getting into this shared addiction.

I'm impressed.

 

[Macky-Mac]

Studying (closely, and I could swear that it winked at me) a Chemex coffee maker/pot recently, I, too, kept muttering to myself something similar to your mantra: "I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device, I do not need another coffee device."

And then, when I ordered both coffee (a few different coffees), and coffee filter papers (Hario V60 Size 02, my usual), somehow, inexplicably, an order for the special filter papers manufactured and produced for use with the Chemex made their way into my order, as well.

it's a sign from above!

 

[Macky-Mac]

...As that part of the world tends - culturally - to have a marked preference for tea, I would imagine that the French colonial influence had something to do with the development of a specific coffee culture in what is now Vietnam....

Yes, the French introduced coffee into Vietnam back in the mid 1800s. The country is now a major exporter of robusta beans.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

it's a sign from above!

Yes, that is what I suspect, as well.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Yes, the French introduced coffee into Vietnam back in the mid 1800s. The country is now a major exporter of robusta beans.

Ah, I had wondered about that, and that explanation therefore makes complete sense.

 

[mtbdudex]

Well I take off the water tank and fill at the sink via reverse osmosis water.
My wife prefers to fill it in place, lift the lid and pour in.
Both ways work .. till this morning I found leafs floating in there .. ewe .
She musta hit the leaves with arm while fill door open.
Cleaned it out throughly, light bleach solution with many rinses.

I can’t change habits / methods , so I moved the leafy plant on the other wooden crate to mitigate it from happening again.

Now sipping my double shot getting ready for the day.

 

[adrianlondon]

I don't think you needed to bleach the machine due to a leaf falling in, as this is (apparently) how tea was "invented". Well, not into a coffee machine

 

[mtbdudex]

^^^ I figured so, but even though I use RO water I try and clean the tank every 4 months anyways.