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Agree 100%. I wish the film had been more Italy and less SB.

I agree 100% as well. It may have been better served to do two films; one on the origins, evolution, preparation and enjoyment of espresso from Italy and all the nuances associated with it, and, a second film focusing on the Starbucks debacle and degeneracy of espresso. I was expecting and hoping for the former when I began viewing it.

Also agree 100%. As a lawyer who works for a big corporation, I was, uh, cringing a bit during those segments. But, I am glad that, for whatever reason, SB, dropped it. The coffee is available online and is very good.

Excellent; again thanks for the link, I'll go look at it now. :)

And, I want to know how I can get the government to pay me to go to Italy for one year to study "the origins of cappuccino." :cool:

I know right? How'd she pull that off I wonder?
 

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One part in the Starbucks segment which caught my attention was how it was revealed (not that it's a big secret) is how the "barista's" do not grind, tamp or extract the espresso they make. They apparently use super-automatic machines and all they do is press a button. That takes all the fun out of it and removes the magic and ambiance from the coffee shop.

That makes me wonder if they teach their barista's how to grind, tamp and extract espresso these days.
 

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One part in the Starbucks segment which caught my attention was how it was revealed (not that it's a big secret) is how the "barista's" do not grind, tamp or extract the espresso they make. They apparently use super-automatic machines and all they do is press a button. That takes all the fun out of it and removes the magic and ambiance from the coffee shop.

That makes me wonder if they teach their barista's how to grind, tamp and extract espresso these days.

Good question. My guess would be why bother to teach them all that hard stuff when you can just push a button and...presto....bad coffee.
 

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It may have been better served to do two films; one on the origins, evolution, preparation and enjoyment of espresso from Italy and all the nuances associated with it, and, a second film focusing on the Starbucks debacle and degeneracy of espresso.

Ultimately, what I like most about the film (aside from the enchanting video of the barista in Italy pouring perfectly steamed milk into a cappuccino cup) is her conclusion that coffee is about more than just the coffee, and the fact that the quality of the best cappuccino she found in the US had as much to do with the shop and companionship as it did the coffee. I love that she went back to Tulsa, what, three times? I think she may have had a bit of a crush on more than just the coffee (but that's just the amateur shrink in me).

That makes me wonder if they teach their barista's how to grind, tamp and extract espresso these days.

I highly doubt it. When at SB with my father-in-law once, a few months ago, I asked that my order be prepared with "doser and tamper." At this request, that particular cashier responded: "what's that?"

+++++

Authors over time have accused time, fate and a multitude of other realities of being fickle mistresses. But perhaps coffee is the most fickle of all (and, for me, the personification is feminine; I mean no offense by that).

Thursday evening, in frustration I ground up and ultimately discarded 250 grams of coffee -- 6 attempts -- trying to pull a decent doppio. Sourness and bitterness abounded (which reflected my mood at the time, actually....perhaps the cause of my misadventure), and I gave up in disgust.

Then, this morning, this:

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Not a God Shot, but as close to it as I have had for the past year. I hurriedly made a second, but, alas, it was not as good. But that takes nothing away from every flawless sip of the first. This abruptly snapped and somewhat blurry cell phone picture goes into my "best wine and coffee ever" folder, to be savored in future years.

I hope you all chance upon something as wonderful this weekend.
 

mobilehaathi

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Support for your habit?;):p

Michael Yassa, assistant professor of psychological and brain sciences in the Krieger School of Arts and Sciences at Johns Hopkins, and his team of scientists found that caffeine has a positive effect on long-term memory in humans. Their research, published by the journal Nature Neuroscience, shows that caffeine enhances certain memories at least up to 24 hours after it is consumed.

"We've always known that caffeine has cognitive-enhancing effects, but its particular effects on strengthening memories and making them resistant to forgetting has never been examined in detail in humans," said Yassa, senior author of the paper. "We report for the first time a specific effect of caffeine on reducing forgetting over 24 hours."

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Shrink

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I’ve just ordered my Dream Machine...the Londinum I!

My accountant told me I would be getting a juicy Tax Refund. Of course, it could be much better spent on other things...but the hell with it, you only live once.

It’s such a beautiful machine, and built like a tank. All the parts are commercial grade, so it should hold together well. Paired with my beloved HG-one hand crank grinder, it makes for the ultimate hands on set up. No grinder motors, no espresso machine pumps...nothing to break and since I really enjoy the hands on rituals of preparing espresso, it’s the perfect pairing for me.

I’m going to try to sell my current, Expobar Office Lever semi-automatic machine on Marketplace. I’m not optimistic since this is an electronics forum...but it’s worth a shot.

I’m embarrassingly excited about the machine. It’s just stuff...but I’m well and truly jazzed!

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mobilehaathi

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I’ve just ordered my Dream Machine...the Londinum I!

My accountant told me I would be getting a juicy Tax Refund. Of course, it could be much better spent on other things...but the hell with it, you only live once.

It’s such a beautiful machine, and built like a tank. All the parts are commercial grade, so it should hold together well. Paired with my beloved HG-one hand crank grinder, it makes for the ultimate hands on set up. No grinder motors, no espresso machine pumps...nothing to break and since I really enjoy the hands on rituals of preparing espresso, it’s the perfect pairing for me.

I’m going to try to sell my current, Expobar Office Lever semi-automatic machine on Marketplace. I’m not optimistic since this is an electronics forum...but it’s worth a shot.

I’m embarrassingly excited about the machine. It’s just stuff...but I’m well and truly jazzed!

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Excellent, ETA?

We of course expect unboxing photos, etc. ;)
 

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Excellent, ETA?

We of course expect unboxing photos, etc. ;)

It will ship some time this week from the UK. I spoke with the guy who designed it and runs the store, and he said shipping takes 2-3 days!

So should be sometime next week.

I figure unboxing and trying to lift that tank onto the counter will lead to immediate hospitalization :eek:...so I'll try to take some photos before the ambulance arrives.:p
 

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I’ve just ordered my Dream Machine...the Londinum I!

My accountant told me I would be getting a juicy Tax Refund. Of course, it could be much better spent on other things...but the hell with it, you only live once.

It’s such a beautiful machine, and built like a tank. All the parts are commercial grade, so it should hold together well. Paired with my beloved HG-one hand crank grinder, it makes for the ultimate hands on set up. No grinder motors, no espresso machine pumps...nothing to break and since I really enjoy the hands on rituals of preparing espresso, it’s the perfect pairing for me.

I’m going to try to sell my current, Expobar Office Lever semi-automatic machine on Marketplace. I’m not optimistic since this is an electronics forum...but it’s worth a shot.

I’m embarrassingly excited about the machine. It’s just stuff...but I’m well and truly jazzed!

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Congratulations on the new machine! I know you're going to just love it to pieces!

Now you have no excuse for proper upper body exercise! You can crank with one arm on the HG-1, and pull shots with the other on the Londinum. Then alternate each arm for every other espresso you make. :D
 

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Excellent. Congratulations!

Thanks...:D

Congratulations on the new machine! I know you're going to just love it to pieces!

Now you have no excuse for proper upper body exercise! You can crank with one arm on the HG-1, and pull shots with the other on the Londinum. Then alternate each arm for every other espresso you make. :D

Actually you are more right than you know. Although I'm a lefty, the grinder is built for right handed grinding. And since the machine allows for either hand, I'll be using my left on the lever!

I'll either end up with arms like Popeye, or bursitis in both elbows!
 

Scepticalscribe

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I’ve just ordered my Dream Machine...the Londinum I!

My accountant told me I would be getting a juicy Tax Refund. Of course, it could be much better spent on other things...but the hell with it, you only live once.

It’s such a beautiful machine, and built like a tank. All the parts are commercial grade, so it should hold together well. Paired with my beloved HG-one hand crank grinder, it makes for the ultimate hands on set up. No grinder motors, no espresso machine pumps...nothing to break and since I really enjoy the hands on rituals of preparing espresso, it’s the perfect pairing for me.

I’m going to try to sell my current, Expobar Office Lever semi-automatic machine on Marketplace. I’m not optimistic since this is an electronics forum...but it’s worth a shot.

I’m embarrassingly excited about the machine. It’s just stuff...but I’m well and truly jazzed!

Image

Ooooooooh. Aaaaaah. Words (almost) fail me. What an absolutely beautifully made machine. Exquisite , this gorgeous fusion of form and function writ large (but with an delightfully compact size, ideal for domestic arrangements). Congratulations on your (not entirely unexpected) purchase. In any case, I am truly envious and quite utterly impressed - for here is an objet d'art no less.

We shall, of course, expect photographs, descriptions of learning curves, dramatic reviews, and detailed tasting notes in due course........
 

Shrink

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Ooooooooh. Aaaaaah. Words (almost) fail me. What an absolutely beautifully made machine. Exquisite , this gorgeous fusion of form and function writ large (but with an delightfully compact size, ideal for domestic arrangements). Congratulations on your (not entirely unexpected) purchase. In any case, I am truly envious and quite utterly impressed - for here is an objet d'art no less.

We shall, of course, expect photographs, descriptions of learning curves, dramatic reviews, and detailed tasting notes in due course........

Embarrassingly predictable, aren't I?:eek:

I'd say I had no sales resistance...but nobody was trying to sell it to me. I'll just have to face the fact that I'm like a pot of office coffee...old and weak!

The learning curve should be interesting. I've downloaded the user manual, and there is a bit to learn. I spoke with Reiss Gunson, the creator of the Londinium line, and he said most of the learning comes in the the grind adjustments...but I think the learning will go beyond that. He is a lovely guy who has gone through many bumps and bruises getting his business off the ground. He was in some sort of finance career and decided this was what he wanted to do, so left a lucrative job and started this company. His situation is somewhat similar to the two guys who started the HG-one business. Literally working out of the garage of one of the guys, in long email exchanges we discussed the struggles of their business venture. I bought my grinder out of their first production run (Serial# 0051), and I think they are now in their second run.

These are very interesting people willing to put their financial lives on the line for their love of coffee...hoping to make a living off remarkably original, aesthetically stunning and unique creations.

Photos, etc. will be forthcoming fairly soon!:D:D
 
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No, indeed.

I'll readily admit that I had no doubt whatsoever that you would succumb to the siren lure of something of the kind...........the only question outstanding in my mind was the simple age-old one of "When?" this act would actually - if inevitably - take place.

Some time ago, I read a fascinating article (in a normally less than riveting business & finance section of the newspaper) on how people treat incomes from different sources differently. Thus, your 'juicy' tax rebate is ear-marked for an entirely different sort of expenditure than, say, would be the case with a weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly paycheque. The 'juicy' rebate goes towards something memorable, and worthwhile; not just a source of pleasure, but often put towards something that you will treasure.

This is in no way a criticism: I remember purchasing my very first SLR camera from my first paycheque for correcting student term assignments (a solid fortnight's endless work) which came in the form of a very welcome lump sum, and was disbursed from a different source than funded my salary. Likewise, any income I ever made from books, articles, or radio work was viewed very differently than a salary from teaching, and spent accordingly.

Anyway, while it was an entirely predictable (I'd even say it was an inevitable purchase) that in itself, should add to, rather than detract from, the pleasure this purchase will undoubtedly bestow and confer on your overall well-being and caffeine sated happiness.

Oh, an update: Following my latest head & chest cold, I am now on the road to a full recovery. This morning, after a briefing (which I gave), I repaired to......well, I need not say exactly where, lest roars of ribald laughter greet any reference to 'the boys'. Suffice to say that three exquisite double espressos were consumed in short order.....
 

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No, indeed.

I'll readily admit that I had no doubt whatsoever that you would succumb to the siren lure of something of the kind...........the only question outstanding in my mind was the simple age-old one of "When?" this act would actually - if inevitably - take place.

Some time ago, I read a fascinating article (in a normally less than riveting business & finance section of the newspaper) on how people treat incomes from different sources differently. Thus, your 'juicy' tax rebate is ear-marked for an entirely different sort of expenditure than, say, would be the case with a weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly paycheque. The 'juicy' rebate goes towards something memorable, and worthwhile; not just a source of pleasure, but often put towards something that you will treasure.

This is in no way a criticism: I remember purchasing my very first SLR camera from my first paycheque for correcting student term assignments (a solid fortnight's endless work) which came in the form of a very welcome lump sum, and was disbursed from a different source than funded my salary. Likewise, any income I ever made from books, articles, or radio work was viewed very differently than a salary from teaching, and spent accordingly.

Anyway, while it was an entirely predictable (I'd even say it was an inevitable purchase) that in itself, should add to, rather than detract from, the pleasure this purchase will undoubtedly bestow and confer on your overall well-being and caffeine sated happiness.

Oh, an update: Following my latest head & chest cold, I am now on the road to a full recovery. This morning, after a briefing (which I gave), I repaired to......well, I need not say exactly where, lest roars of ribald laughter greet any reference to 'the boys'. Suffice to say that three exquisite double espressos were consumed in short order.....

First, and much more important than my ridiculous purchase...so gad to hear your head/chest cold is resolving. Now that's really good news!

Your observations of my inevitable purchase on this insanely expensive machine is is no way insulting...rather an insightful observation into my motivation to indulge (or over indulge...or massively over indulge :eek:) my "wants"...with the expectation of the years of enjoyment.
 

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A recent post cited research indicating that coffee consumption slows the onset of dementia.

And now this...protection against liver disease!

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Review article: coffee consumption, the metabolic syndrome and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
Aliment Pharmacol Ther. 2013; 38(9):1038-44 (ISSN: 1365-2036)

Yesil A; Yilmaz Y

BACKGROUND: Coffee consumption may modulate the risk of the metabolic syndrome (MetS) and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD).

AIM: To review the experimental, epidemiological and clinical studies investigating the association between coffee consumption and the risk of MetS and NAFLD.

METHODS: A literature search was conducted with the aim of finding original experimental, epidemiological and clinical articles on the association between coffee consumption, MetS and NAFLD. The following databases were used: PubMed, Embase, Scopus and Science Direct. We included articles written in English and published up to July 2013.

RESULTS: Three experimental animal studies investigated the effects of coffee in the MetS, whereas five examined whether experimental coffee intake may modulate the risk of fatty liver infiltration. All of the animal studies showed a protective effect of coffee towards the development of MetS and NAFLD. Moreover, we identified eleven epidemiological and clinical studies that met the inclusion criteria. Of them, six were carried out on the risk of the MetS and five on the risk of NAFLD. Four of the six studies reported an inverse association between coffee consumption and the risk of MetS. The two studies showing negative results were from the same study cohort consisting of young persons with a low prevalence of the MetS. All of the epidemiological and clinical studies on NAFLD reported a protective effect of coffee intake.

CONCLUSIONS: Coffee intake can reduce the risk of NAFLD. Whether this effect may be mediated by certain components of the MetS deserves further investigation.

Source

Since I very closely resemble a lab rat...I'm golden!:D
 

decafjava

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Allow me to congratulate you on your purchase Shrink, and to thank you all for the posts confirming that coffee does indeed have positive health benefits. Time for my third cup today? :cool:
 

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Allow me to congratulate you on your purchase Shrink, and to thank you all for the posts confirming that coffee does indeed have positive health benefits. Time for my third cup today? :cool:

All those studies, which others also posted, are my excuse for all this coffee consumption.Clearly, I will live forever, and remember most of it (except the 60's :p)

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!
 

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BULLETIN! BULLETIN!

As I know that you all have put your life on hold awaiting updates about my new machine, I am happy to report that it shipped today from Birmingham, England. No ETA yet, but likely middle to late next week.

I read the User Manual, and have discovered that I will now have at least one new variable to juggle...pre-infusion. It's between 3-10 seconds, and varies by bean or blend, and grind. Many of my pre-programmed preparation movements ("the Ritual") will be changed...consequently much more concentration will be necessary for a while, until the new behavior sequence is, once again, an over learned response set.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled life...:p
 

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Thanks for the update! I can finally get some sleep. I tell ya, those sleepless nights wondering when your green status light would come on and staring at the Forum Spy looking for a post here to tell us the news was killer!

Now I should be able to get a few winks until the middle of next week when I have to do this all over again, eagerly awaiting the arrival of the new machine!

:D:cool::p:);)
 

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Thanks for the update! I can finally get some sleep. I tell ya, those sleepless nights wondering when your green status light would come on and staring at the Forum Spy looking for a post here to tell us the news was killer!

Now I should be able to get a few winks until the middle of next week when I have to do this all over again, eagerly awaiting the arrival of the new machine!

:D:cool::p:);)

I know many lives have been disrupted awaiting my blessed event. Delivery is just over the horizon.

I'm happy that you might be getting a few minutes sleep now. But remain vigilant...news may come at any moment!

:p ;) :D
 
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