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SandboxGeneral said:
This is what I am finding out with the FP. It's slightly more work, but much more satisfying for the process of creation.
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Yes, the French Press is great fun, especially when you are hosting a coffee session for a few friends - it really is a satisfying process 'of creation', and is certainly one I enjoy (above all, when serving coffee to people I like whom I have invited for the purpose of sharing a lovely cup of coffee).
 
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mobilehaathi said:
But if there's one thing I've learned, it is that there is never a short supply of crazies willing to forego the 'convenience factor' even if it is as good.
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And, likewise, no shortage of upstarts claiming to have invented a new process/gizmo/secret that will produce a god cup with virtually no work, care, or knowledge on the part of the brewer. I recall the same sorts of articles when Keurig first became popular. Now I laugh (sometimes silently, sometimes not) at anyone who claims the Keurig is even in the same universe with home roasted and ground coffee. And, with my recent experiments, I can safely add the Nespresso as an equal member of that list.

That said, Shrink's law holds true: if someone is happy with their Keurig, I'm happy for them (even while I still secretly think "oh, you poor person who has never tasted real coffee......how much you are missing.").
 
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macrumors Haswell
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mobilehaathi said:
For the drip? I have two cones that I switch between, one is a glass Hario with a very wide hole on the bottom. I use the Hario full cone (not sure what else to call them) filters for that one. Fold the seam down, wet with hot water (which also serves to heat the vessel), then grind and brew. The second I own is a ceramic cone with a truncated bottom and a small drip hole. If I use the Hario filters in this, I have to fold the bottom of the filter to flatten it (although I've seen flat bottom filters around). This one brews a much bolder cup, largely because the water stays in contact with the grounds for much longer. Both are great for their own purposes...:D



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Yes, I have a Hario, too, (one of those lovely, solid, heavy, serrated, ceramic ones, which I bought having been directed to the Intelligentsia coffee site by the denizens who dwell in this very thread); I like it a lot, (it is far, far better than its plastic equivalents), but only ever use it when I am at home - it is very handy when making a single cup of coffee.
 
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Kurwenal said:
I have a couple of Harios laying around, but haven't used them for a long time. Not sure why. Maybe it's the Chemex. Maybe I have been giving them short shrift. I'll have to reconsider.

As for how soon you will purchase a new roaster, maybe soon none of us will be roasting.

http://sprudge.com/perfect-coffee-startup.html

This makes me cringe. Roasting is my outlet. I would need to book time with Mister Doctor Shrink if it went away. How many customers does SM need to stay in business? Just us three perhaps?
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I read most of the article... it's spinach and the hell with it, I say.

I won't give up my own roasting no matter how good the stuff is. It would be as if a really good (as in... perfect) super automatic espresso machine were created...not for me. It's not just the drinking... the making (all phases), and the figuring, adjusting and dialing in are essential parts of the enjoyment. It's a serious, obsessional avocation...not just a cup of coffee.

I'm really glad that, SBG, you are enjoying the press so much. I had the feeling that the extra bit of work wouldn't bother you at all because the coffee produced is, I believe, generally better than a drip machine.

And as for keeping me in business...let's just say that posting here keeps my skills (such as they are) sharp!:p

Kurwenal said:
And, likewise, no shortage of upstarts claiming to have invented a new process/gizmo/secret that will produce a god cup with virtually no work, care, or knowledge on the part of the brewer. I recall the same sorts of articles when Keurig first became popular. Now I laugh (sometimes silently, sometimes not) at anyone who claims the Keurig is even in the same universe with home roasted and ground coffee. And, with my recent experiments, I can safely add the Nespresso as an equal member of that list.

That said, Shrink's law holds true: if someone is happy with their Keurig, I'm happy for them (even while I still secretly think "oh, you poor person who has never tasted real coffee......how much you are missing.").
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Well said, and my sentiments exactly.
 
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macrumors Haswell
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Kurwenal said:
But, this is different. Really different.
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Well, I will just have to wait for a (doubtless detailed) review of this (rather impressive) sounding grinder from one of our more seasoned (and motivated) members before considering investing in such a thing myself. I look forward to reading what may be written on this matter, and above all, on this product…..

Several years ago, in the Balkans, I spent some time looking for some of those beautifully made brass hand grinders; everyone had them in Bosnia. Later, in Kosovo, knowing of my weakness for matters related to coffee, (and this is a part of the world where coffee making rituals are venerated) one of my interpreters gave me an exquisitely crafted one as a farewell gift. I still have it, but have never, alas, used it for what it was designed to do.
 
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Kurwenal said:
But, this is different. Really different.
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Scepticalscribe said:
Well, I will just have to wait for a (doubtless detailed) review of this (rather impressive) sounding grinder from one of our more seasoned (and motivated) members before considering investing in such a thing myself. I look forward to reading what may be written on this matter, and above all, on this product…..

Several years ago, in the Balkans, I spent some time looking for some of those beautifully made brass hand grinders; everyone had them in Bosnia. Later, in Kosovo, knowing of my weakness for matters related to coffee, (and this is a part of the world where coffee making rituals are venerated) one of my interpreters gave me an exquisitely crafted one as a farewell gift. I still have it, but have never, alas, used it for what it was designed to do.
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Soooo...hand grinders. My, my...what a funny idea!:p

The Pharos grinder has been around for quite a while and has always, to the best of my knowledge, been considered a really good grinder...especially for non-espresso production methods. I'm wondering how well this new grinder does for espresso, of if it is primarily for other methods. These folks know what they are doing, so I wouldn't be surprised if the new one has a good range of grinds.

I'll be interested in seeing the reviews when the new grinder is adopted by a larger consumer base.
 
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Kurwenal said:
But, this is different. Really different.
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That was a neat article and at first when I read through it I saw their location as Troy, and for a second thought they were near me in Troy Michigan, but then I saw it wasn't Michigan. :( I could've visited them and made a deal to get us all one! ;)
 
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mobilehaathi said:
Ok, it really isn't cool that you should show me this.

Not cool at all.

Really...

I have to restrain myself.

;)

YouTube: video
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My goodness...hand grinders. And what will they think of next!:p

For $175, it certainly looks like a well made grinder. I doubt that there is anything on the market as well engineered in a hand grinder that is even close for the price. Considering that most of the available hand grinders are no where near as carefully engineered...this thing should sell like mad...especially for out-of-home use, e.g. office, travel, camping, etc.
 
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macrumors Haswell
Jul 29, 2008
65,181
47,567
In a coffee shop.
mobilehaathi said:
Ok, it really isn't cool that you should show me this.

Not cool at all.

Really...

I have to restrain myself.

;)

YouTube: video
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Really, it is nothing short of the vilest temptation to even think of posting such a video. (Yes, I watched it, needless to say. In its compelling entirety.) But what a very interesting product; when I return to a sane (or saner) part of the world, I must contemplate looking out for this beautifully crafted product….
 
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