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The resting on our laurels bean counter Tim days need to end
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EU Reportedly Planning to Charge Apple for Violating Digital Markets Act
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They seem to be getting surprised a lot lately
Apple leadership needs an overhaul
The resting on our laurels bean counter Tim days need to end
They will leave the EU when the net profit drops to $0.
Is it clear? Because it certainly seems a mess. Also, if the spirit of a law is one thing, but they don’t codify the ‘spirit’ of the law, then there isn’t legal requirements to follow the ‘spirit’ of the law.
What if Apple were to leave a market of more than 400 million people?
Yea... no, that won't happen.
I. The meantime apple has paid $0 in fines.
Apple will raise the price of the iPhones.
Anyone thoughtful understands what is trying to be accomplished
You're intelligent - I'm sure you get it and so does Apple
Let's be frank and honest here
I don’t know. Never had to compare the costs. I’m really just curious if that’s a real possibility. Some international markets are definitely tough to enter.
Funny thing is, you had a bunch of uninformed posters claim earlier this year it was "malicious compliance" or something silly.
No, this is clear non-compliance.
If you read the text, the conditions of the DMA mandate the gatekeeper (Apple) offer the same conditions it offers other developers as it does itself. Charging $0.50 per download obviously isn't what Apple charges itself.
No, this is clear non-compliance.
If you read the text, the conditions of the DMA mandate the gatekeeper (Apple) offer the same conditions it offers other developers as it does itself. Charging $0.50 per download obviously isn't what Apple charges itself.
lol! True, but the question is do the costs outweigh the loss? Probably do. What percentage is EU to Apple’s international market revenue? These are unanswered questions.
Yes, it was codified very clearly in the text of the DMA. Apple just chose to pull a Hail Mary.
Wait until Apple kicks up a fuss over replacement batteries when that EU law comes in
I read the legislation. It’s a complicated mess.
Ultimately, the play the EU is making here is to force companies (Apple) to allow third party app stores while forcing them to also maintain the security of said system. This is an absolute nightmare from a security standpoint because you have to vet every application that is hosted in those app stores, which is what Apple has done.
Like I said, it’s a mess.
I think this text meant that Apple trying to offer two versions of its agreements was always going to be in violation. Developers can stay App Store exclusive and pay no CTF or offer their App in the App Store and elsewhere and pay the CTF. That seems so blatant that I'm surprised they (and their defenders like Gruber) thought it would stand.
True, their 400 million customers (if that’s an accurate number of apple customers) would totally justify compliance. So why propose such an interesting solution? I get the wanting to protect users, and notarize apps. Couldn’t iOS just sandbox apps? Let uses activate permissions to anything or everything or give the user choice?
Although not naive to hackers and nefarious spam artists. They are consistently using any tool they can acquire for their dubious business practices.
What? Apples actively hostile anti-consumer behavior is against consumer protection laws? Who'd have thunk?
**** around, find out.
**** around, find out.
Did Gruber think it would stand?
That says a lot
Even other prominent Apple proponents I heard didn't feel that way
lol. True.It's unanswered for Apple
Notice how they haven't left yet?
Just stop providing cheap/free dev tools to EU developers and start a metering arrangement where they have to pay for the delivery of their apps and updates on the App Store. They can pay for the tools and infrastructure ala carte then. Apple doesn’t have to give these people anything gratis.
Perhaps instead of sniffing and crying about the “spirit” of the regulations, WRITE CLEAR SPECIFIC REGULATIONS!
THIS.
Apple is not going to lose on revenue/income. If AppStore income declines, prices for HW will be raised. Simple.
EU would probably fine Apple if they ever did try and leave selling in the EUIt's unanswered for Apple
Notice how they haven't left yet?
Well now… that’s interesting. So one could be compliant if those app fees are charged to your app purposes and (at least your fees paid out) are proven to be used exclusively to the App Store… if what your saying is correct. Although I haven’t read the document. I think I got passed the first few lines lol.