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iPhone 15 Pro Max Everybody was tricked by Apple not really full titanium 🤣
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Apple are lying, it is not a Titanium iPhone while they are saying it is.
Just go in the Apple Store and see the word Titanium everywhere.
Grade 5 titanium is an alloy. Via Wikipedia “Ti-6Al-4V (UNS designation R56400), also sometimes called TC4, Ti64,[1] or ASTM Grade 5, is an alpha-beta titanium alloy with a high specific strength and excellent corrosion resistance. It is one of the most commonly used titanium alloys and is applied in a wide range of applications where low density and excellent corrosion resistance are necessary such as e.g. aerospace industry and biomechanical applications”.
Titanium is rarely used except as an alloy. “aerospace grade” aluminum is an alloy too. Almost every metal we use now is an alloy
By that definition, a chicken salad should be made entirely of chicken.
Dude, I own $15.000 carbon fibre sports equipment. And just what it said, it is 100% of the highest grade carbon fibre only that was used.
Apple is simply lying that it is a Titanium iPhone.
You know exactly what Apple is doing.
OP has a point because most people ( outside MR experts 
) won’t be thinking so hard about alloys and what they exactly said in the presentation. The picture in their mind has formed based on main marketing material that says Titanium 🤪 everywhere. Everything else is fineprint that is purely for disclaimer purposes. Same goes with camera improvements that many (even YouTubers) misunderstood and advertised bigger sensor stuff. Apple carefully planned it. They don’t leave this stuff to chanche. They never lied but they formed their presentation so that it’s easily misleadin. I mean that’s normal, Apple isn’t doing anything illegal, that’s just how marketing works. Nothing new here. But don’t think they didn’t do this on purpose.
) won’t be thinking so hard about alloys and what they exactly said in the presentation. The picture in their mind has formed based on main marketing material that says Titanium 🤪 everywhere. Everything else is fineprint that is purely for disclaimer purposes. Same goes with camera improvements that many (even YouTubers) misunderstood and advertised bigger sensor stuff. Apple carefully planned it. They don’t leave this stuff to chanche. They never lied but they formed their presentation so that it’s easily misleadin. I mean that’s normal, Apple isn’t doing anything illegal, that’s just how marketing works. Nothing new here. But don’t think they didn’t do this on purpose.
Are they lying? Or are people maybe kinda stupid?
They said in the keynote that it was a titanium band and aluminium midframe.
On the site, they also say it's a titanium band and aluminium midframe (see screenshot).
If you can't be bothered to even take a cursory glance at the details of the thing you're about to buy, maybe that's on you.
It's pretty clear that an army of trolls are sweeping over MR right now, with one dumb post after another
You expect a random person who walks in the Apple Store to rely on the internet to know it is not actually a Titanium phone?
You know Apple is trying to mislead their customers.
Would be interesting to see a poll (not on MacRumors ofcourse) to see how many people who bought an iPhone 15 Pro, thought it was a Titanium phone.
I think you greatly overestimate how much the median consumer cares about the precise material makeup of their phone, but considering that the exterior of the iPhone 15 Pro is “titanium” in the same sense that the exterior of the iPhone 14 Pro is “stainless steel” or that of the iPhone 15 is “aluminum” — all are alloys, predominantly but not purely that metal — I’m not sure why you weren’t on this crusade years and years ago.
Apple doesn’t go out of their way to inform customers about the aluminum inner structure because most simply do not care. For those who do, Apple’s made absolutely no attempt to hide or mislead about what they’re doing.
You’re not gonna like this. But there’s no such thing as equipment being made of 100% carbon fiber. Carbon fiber is used to reinforce materials, but on its own it’s a fabric. Your $15,000 sports equipment is made of plastic with some carbon in it.
Aluminum is used here as a heat sink inside the titanium outer frame. An all-titanium construction would overheat more easily. The current solution seams like sensible one.
The phone has titanium. Just because you have unrealistic or uninformed expectations oh what the percentage of titanium used should be doesn't mean the company is lying. For example, my Apple Watch is the aluminium model, but that doesn't mean it can't also contain other metals and materials. Ignorance is no one's fault but your own.
Eh. That’s exactly what I said. The frame in itself is a Titanium alloy. But the combination of aluminum mid plate with the Ti(alloy) frame, the combination is not called as an alloy as you originally meant. It is just a physical non homogeneous combination not an alloy.
I rather it's a mixture of both Al and Ti if it meant better heat conductivity.
Who cares what's inside the phone
Who cares what's inside the phone
If Apple wrote titanium + aluminum sandwich on all the posters, same people would whine that Apple is misleading by not indicating the exact thickness of the titanium rails, and that based on the on the ratio of the materials used it should be “aluminum + a-bit-less-than-you-would-expect-titanium composite frame”.
Can we discuss the actual issues instead please?
Can we discuss the actual issues instead please?
No, noone was tricked, since Apple explained during the keynote how they implemented titanium in the Pro. We are still awaiting confirmation from a third party that this actually is grade 5, though. But I don't think Apple would lie about that, since it is easy enough to assess. A wider question is why titanium is needed in the first place. It isn't, it's a selling point only. A Pro feature, of sorts, which must vary from time to time, otherwise buyers won't feel special. It is what it is. Personally, I'd prefer aluminium, since it is cheaper and conducts heat very efficiently. But then, I don't buy into Pro features, since I don't need them.
Psychologists hate this one trick! Only registered and certified mind readers can assess intent. Guy single-handedly bankrupted the entire field of human psychology in one fell-swoop!
It was my understanding from Apple’s presentation that Titanium is only applied for the frame. So, the product is what I expected.
Yes everybody was tricked by apple when they said they used titanium in the build of the iphone...oh wait they did use titanium in the build of the iphone......whats the point of this thread again?
Lighter weight, lower cost (the cost of using grade 5 titanium on the inside would absolutely exceed what Apple would be willing to eat, so the cost would be passed on to you), and likely improved durability due to the material properties of titanium.