iPad Pro Exchanged 12.9” for 11”

[sorgo †]

why do we need 20 threads about the same thing?

Because as much as you and others would prefer those who are honest and smart enough to point out what is obviously there not to say anything it’s still there and it’s still clearly bothering people who try the device themselves.

I wasn’t set against the 12.9”; as I said before I was intrigued by the technology and was hoping it would wow me to the point of keeping the device but the “downgrade” was an easy decision. Even considering the 1TB that may have been overkill the device was more expensive and I was enjoying it less especially because I spend the brunt of my time reading light text on darker backgrounds, probably a pretty common use case today.

My contacts weren’t actually dirty nor was I unfairly set against the 12.9” iPad to begin with—even if some of you had gotten that idea from my original thread it clearly wasn’t the case if I continued flip-flopping on my decision—nor am I an “Apple hater.” I usually have more respect and affinity for Apple than I do other tech giants but that doesn’t mean they’re immune from criticism or that I am a blind brand loyalist.

 

[satchmo]

Very true, but why do we need 20 threads about the same thing?

We don’t necessarily. But it’s a free forum and unless Mods come down and remove or merge similar threads, it’s difficult to keep track of the hundreds posts.

And frankly, if a topic is over done, and is ignored, it dies on it’s own.
Every time anyone complains in that thread simply bumps it back to the top and gives it more life.

 

[nStyle]

My biggest issue with 12.9 vs 11 is there’s already a lot of wasted space in most apps with the 11. I feel like iPads in general don’t take advantage of the larger sceen in iOS like they should. Also typing while holding the 12.9 is harder and holding it up in bed as you’re about to fall asleep may be a recipe for disaster lol.

 

[Surfman]

After having a 11" for 2.5 years my new 12.9" is a massive upgrade, no way going back to a 11", no point anyway same screen as the 2018 i had just a bit faster.
27" 5K iMac
12" pro max iPhone
12" iPad pro

Go big or go home lol.

 

[sorgo †]

 

[haruhiko]

My biggest issue with 12.9 vs 11 is there’s already a lot of wasted space in most apps with the 11. I feel like iPads in general don’t take advantage of the larger sceen in iOS like they should. Also typing while holding the 12.9 is harder and holding it up in bed as you’re about to fall asleep may be a recipe for disaster lol.

Even the phone can be a recipe for disaster if you drop it onto your face haha.

 

[NM08SRT8]

I swapped mine for a 11” and I’m extremely happy. 12.9 was too big for portability, plus I have a 13” MBP.

 

[SeanSpreadsRumors]

Wait, we're talking about the same company that released the disaster known as the butterfly keyboard on MBPs right? It was enough of a disaster that they tried to redesign it multiple times before finally giving up.

I enjoy a lot of Apple products as much as the next person, but Apple is not infallible.

Typing experiences are subjective, a typing experience that some people don't find satisfying is quiet a bit different than a completely unusable defective screen like what OP is alleging. It was a good effort though. And you are wrong when it comes to releasing completely unusable defective screens like OP suggested Apple is in fact infallible.

 

[SeanSpreadsRumors]

I have the iPad and these complaints about the screen are laughable. I have tried to produce these photos people have posted with this blooming. You need to have bright whites on pitch blacks, screen brightness all the way up and then it’s takes some fiddling to get the most clickbaity glow on the camera.

is it visible in real life? Yes. Will you notice it very often? No. Is it better than the LCD? Night and day.

And the shadow around the edges… I couldn’t care less about that. For the benefits of the rest of the screen. The blooming is distracting but ONLY because I’ve read all these forums. It is there. But it’s not a thing.

It's complete insanity.

 

[MrEcted]

Typing experiences are subjective, a typing experience that some people don't find satisfying is quiet a bit different than a completely unusable defective screen like what OP is alleging. It was a good effort though. And you are wrong when it comes to releasing completely unusable defective screens like OP suggested Apple is in fact infallible.

I wasn't talking about the typing experience, I was talking about the issue with them constantly breaking. Apple quietly tried to band-aid fix the problem, when that didn't work they tried again - when that didn't work they finally gave up and reverted back. You know things were bad because Apple launched a service program to cover their asses.

I honestly hope you're just someone who has nothing better to do than troll because I don't think I've ever seen someone that fanboys quite as hard as you do. Apple is certainly not infallible.

 

[jimmy_uk]

I wasn't talking about the typing experience, I was talking about the issue with them constantly breaking. Apple quietly tried to band-aid fix the problem, when that didn't work they tried again - when that didn't work they finally gave up and reverted back. You know things were bad because Apple launched a service program to cover their asses.

I honestly hope you're just someone who has nothing better to do than troll because I don't think I've ever seen someone that fanboys quite as hard as you do. Apple is certainly not infallible.

Coupled with the fact that Apple is usually forced to hold their hands up to issues once press coverage gets big enough.- even then they make statements like "a small number of users are affected". Bending iPhones and ipads, keyboards and screens failing on laptops, Airpods Pro rattle/buzzing......

That said I'm sure most manufacturers avoid admitting fault/errors for as long as possible to avoid costs and lawsuits.

 

[snipr125]

After having a 11" for 2.5 years my new 12.9" is a massive upgrade, no way going back to a 11", no point anyway same screen as the 2018 i had just a bit faster.
27" 5K iMac
12" pro max iPhone
12" iPad pro

Go big or go home lol.

Surfman, that is one big iphone you got there buddy! ?

 

[sorgo †]

And you are wrong when it comes to releasing completely unusable defective screens like OP suggested Apple is in fact infallible.

You wish, and you seem to have skimmed over the bit in my original ”essay” about Apple’s crappy pulse-width modulation implementation from the X/XS days, which had a pretty long thread on here if I recall correctly

 

[4pp13]

I swapped mine for a 11” and I’m extremely happy. 12.9 was too big for portability, plus I have a 13” MBP.

Did the same, although mine was a 12.9 2018 model I sold on. The 11" is the ticket personally. It's like a compact computer from back in the day. I'm living my palm pilot (iPhone mini 12) and toshiba libretto (11" iPad) dream.

Have to say though, I don't think the blooming is an issue from what I've seen - I don't know what else would be expected than some blooming given the technology involved? I guess if you are a professional artist always drawing contrasts this would be a huge deal, but otherwise I still am envious the tech didn't come to the 11".

 

[sorgo †]

Did the same, although mine was a 12.9 2018 model I sold on. The 11" is the ticket personally. It's like a compact computer from back in the day. I'm living my palm pilot (iPhone mini 12) and toshiba libretto (11" iPad) dream.

Have to say though, I don't think the blooming is an issue from what I've seen - I don't know what else would be expected than some blooming given the technology involved? I guess if you are a professional artist always drawing contrasts this would be a huge deal, but otherwise I still am envious the tech didn't come to the 11".

Glad you’re enjoying your “minis” (not that 11” is really miniature by any means). I really wanted the 12 mini as well but I got a little impatient…guess I’ll just have to wait for that potentially-less-notch-y 13 mini. Hard to complain, though—Apple truly nailed a sweet spot with the standard iPhone 12 in myriad ways for myriad people (aside from the somewhat high price point).

Although now, getting somewhat more back to the topic at hand, the device is feeling a tad sluggish compared to my new 11” M1 baby.

Also, in terms of other, future iPad models…even though hyper-speculation isn’t typically my game the Platonic ideal of a slim-bezeled, OLED-equipped iPad mini with Face ID and MX has me salivating.

 

[Nrwrit3r]

Thanks for this thread - I did the same thing! I had a 12.9 2018 before that was just barely light enough for me to comfortably use in bed (without any case on it). But this new one is too heavy for me, and when I went to the 11” it was so much lighter! Now it seems so powerful to have the power of the M1 chip in the most portable form factor possible. Very happy with it


Also like the user mentioned above - it does feel like a “mini” haha! Loving it.

 

[Matcha]

The vibrant colors and sharpness of everything including the app icons is enough for me to pass on the 11 inch even though I can’t use the 12.9 comfortably in bed or 1 handed the compromises are worth it for me.

 

[NM08SRT8]

Did the same, although mine was a 12.9 2018 model I sold on. The 11" is the ticket personally. It's like a compact computer from back in the day. I'm living my palm pilot (iPhone mini 12) and toshiba libretto (11" iPad) dream.

Have to say though, I don't think the blooming is an issue from what I've seen - I don't know what else would be expected than some blooming given the technology involved? I guess if you are a professional artist always drawing contrasts this would be a huge deal, but otherwise I still am envious the tech didn't come to the 11".

I too am using the 12 mini and IPP 11” and I’m enjoying the combo. You’re not alone here. Lol

 

[jtopp]

I’ll have to try the 12.9” out for myself when I get it from Best Buy on Tuesday, but I may be returning it as well. I never had a gripe with the LCD panels before, and I’m not sure if I will be able to deal with the blooming and whatnot. Plus, I got it to mainly watch anime and that’s not HDR enabled for the most part. Yes, I do watch movies too, but not on a regular basis. HDR is not that important to me in the end. I thought from the beginning that the screen’s max brightness would be 1,000 nits and not the same 600 as before. Not that I am complaining, but Apple didn’t make it abundantly clear in their marketing that was the case.

Fact is, I LOVED my iPad Air 4 so much. It did everything I wanted it to do except I couldn’t live with the two speaker set up. I knew the Pro was what I needed, but the 2020 wasn’t a viable option with the 2021’s on the horizon. So... I waited. The 11” would give me what I want that the Air 4 didn’t and more: better speakers, FaceID, slimmer bezels, ProMotion, 600 nits as opposed to 500, etc.

By returning the 12.9” I can save hundreds of dollars or just invest that money in a higher storage tier 11” Pro. I just don’t know if I should open and try the 12.9” to see if it’s viable or send it straight back for the 11”.

Does anyone know if you ordered something on Best Buy’s site if you can return it to a physical store? Because I don’t want to wait a week or longer for the 11”. I have a Best Buy about an hour away with the 11” in stock, so if they do that then I could just take the 12.9” back for an exchange right then and there.

They’ll return on exchange it for you no problem. I used to not like best buy’s customer service but yesterday they exchanged a canon r5 that was 2 weeks past the elite plus return policy and I still got an extra $95 in reward points.

 

[kave]

So here I am, three days in on the 12.9”, got the Magic keyboard yesterday, it really changed the experience for me. Using my old 10.5 pro feels really small now. I have the 11” on order too and will compare them side by side but as it is now, even for consuming information mostly the 12.9” is the best device if you can afford it.

 

[tazdevl]

I’ll have almost a week on the 12.9 tomorrow. Love the screen during the day, not so much at night. Really wanted to keep this, but blooming and shadows at night aside, I find myself propping it and 2 handing more than I like. Ordered a 11‘ 1 TB Cellular from the local the Apple store for pickup tomorrow. I thought about playing the iPad lottery, but with the supply constraints it will be challenging.

I did buy the 12.9 magic keyboard, which is really nice, but with the combined weight it’s basically a laptop and probably weighs more than the M1 MacBook Air.

 

[kp98077]

So here I am, three days in on the 12.9”, got the Magic keyboard yesterday, it really changed the experience for me. Using my old 10.5 pro feels really small now. I have the 11” on order too and will compare them side by side but as it is now, even for consuming information mostly the 12.9” is the best device if you can afford it.

if you don't even have the 11" how can you make such statement?

 

[Rafterman]

if you don't even have the 11" how can you make such statement?

Maybe...the most money = "the best"?

But in the end, the most expensive option isn't always the best for everyone.

 

[kp98077]

Maybe...the most money = "the best"?

But in the end, the most expensive option isn't always the best for everyone.

dont get me wrong love the 12.9, but the 11" really does it all (mostly) in my opinion, but then again, I am always on the go....

 

[rui no onna]

if you don't even have the 11" how can you make such statement?

Because the difference due to screen size is obvious. AR for video on the 11” might be slightly better but content still displays bigger on the 12.9”.

Websites as well. I use my iPads in landscape and I need to scroll less on the 12.9” than on the 10.5/10.9”. I doubt the experience on Pro 11” will be vastly different than the Air 4 10.9”.

Caveat, I do find the 10-11” easier to use in tablet mode. Also less painful when they fall on your nose while in bed.