I believe I’ve said this before. I think the ideal SE for me would be the iPhone X form factor complete with the telephoto lens and an LCD screen. Quite unlikely though
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Me too! Absolutely! …What will that be like: to get all excited for a phone that we’ll actually be able to keep?!
Yeah I’ve been debating that, too. Okay I’m not ready to take on that decision yet. I’ll do like Scarlett O’Hara said and “think about it tomorrow”
Do you think about trading it in (or selling it) and buying a refurbished 11 from Apple?
I've considered it but it's not worth the hassle for basically the same phone this late in the product's lifecycle. Plus, the value of the XR is so low these days it's not even worth selling. I would rather keep it as a backup or give it to a family member. So until a new phone is released that works for me or until the XR stops working, I'm sticking with the XR until support runs out. Crappy camera and all, haha.
I wonder if PWM sensitive people decided to hedge their bets or replace traded in phones because I’ve noticed all of the Apple refurbished 11s are gone. Only 11 pro models are available.
I never had issues with my SS Series 0 but then I didn't have to stare at it. Also most interface items are not bright so your not being blasted with light.
Same. I've been wearing a 42mm Series 3 since it was released and I've never had any issues. I look at the screen so briefly and most of the interface is dark, so there's not enough opportunity for it to bother me.
The 11 goes quick when it does show up in stock. I peruse the refurb store often just to see what's out there. I've seen it show up in stock a handful of times and, most recently, I believe it was $430 for the base model. That price tag matching the price of the SE is likely why it goes so quickly when it does appear. And I have to believe Apple is seeing this as well. The refurb 11 is almost like the unofficial SE Plus, haha.
Oh that’s a shame about it not having trade in value anymore. I was shocked at how much it had last year. It was $200 if I remember correctly.
I hope Apple releases an updated version of the SE that uses the iPhone 11 chassis. The 11 even now feels like a significant improvement over the Xr.
@MICHAELSD — I mean @Siamese_Dream — How is your second 14PM experience going? Notice any difference in the screens? Are you keeping or returning or still deciding?
And how’s your wife like her 13 mini?
And how’s your wife like her 13 mini?
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This has me excited. 
https://www.notebookcheck.net/iPhon...one-including-a-lack-of-Face-ID.658991.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/iPhon...one-including-a-lack-of-Face-ID.658991.0.html
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I really hope that it doesn’t have touch ID built into the power button. I would much rather have face ID.This has me excited.
Otherwise, looking forward to it
Me too. Face ID works better for me than Touch ID. Ugh. Giving up a camera from the 11 and now Face ID. Why, oh why, Apple do you make it so hard to love you?
I actually prefer Touch ID. I don’t want my phone scanning/blasting my irises thousands of times throughout the day. I turn attention awareness off as well.
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I’m sorry it didn’t work out but I’m glad you’re still able to rock the iPhone 11.Big day: I RETURNED THE 14 PRO....
...AND THE 11 FEELS SO GOOD.
Okay, I just needed to scream that. I feel so much better, thank you.
Logisitics: Returning the 14P to Apple was cake. Switching back the sim to the 11 was not. Two sessions of Verizon chat today, one 1 ½ hours, the other 2+hours and abruptly disconnected. Finally had to go to a real store. Long story a little shorter, I have an eSIM on my 11 and things are working.
Nice stuff to report:
1. Feels like I made the right decision, not the best or the funnest, but definitely the right decision. Chose my brain over cool technological upgrades.
2. I have worn down my boyfriend to a point that almost breaks him. I've done it through five years of OLED. If anybody has any advice on how not to drag loved ones through the torture with me, please share.
3. THANK YOU for all of the support. All of the sharing and all of the compassion. I almost held on to the 14 Pro, but after so much internal reflection and listening to my fellow support group members, I'm finding some peace. So...
@jimmy_uk: All of your posts are supportive, but one just really boosted me to try when I needed it.
@Chrispy: Your recent words sounded like the ones in my head.
@MICHAELSD: We sure keep trying to find clever ways to try to make our maybes work.
@AJTC: Your messages really helped. I hope you make it to "America" some day.
@GrumpyMom: So happy that you're enjoying the 14PM--we are all vicariously enjoying your delight (that you absolutely deserve)!
@sorgo: So many of your hearts all over this thread. <3
--Okay I'm gonna stop now that this is getting to be like a yearbook signing at the end of term. Just...thank you to everyone on here!
We all want to try, and I still believe it's good that we do try. It's good that we support each other, we listen, we understand, we let each other find our own individual way. I'm going to keep on this thread a bit longer in this iPhone season because I would like to not persuade or dissuade, but just listen and be here for support.
Long live LCD. 👑
And it’s kind of you to cheer me on with the 14 Pro Max.
Lol though to be fair if it’s making me sick right now, I’m not sure I’d know. What I thought was a cold is more like a flu. It’s going around the schools here. Kids have been sick for WEEKS with it. It’s not Covid but it sure is awful. Everyone is dizzy and coughing and still trying to get through SAT and Homecoming and work and everything else piled on by life.
I had been stuck with the 13 Pro anyway so it was good to get it out of here. My trade in value was honored and is being applied to my 14 Pro Max. Of course being the idiot who ordered a 1TB model, it still means this phone is $1000. So I damn well better be able to use it!
It will be interesting to see how I get along with the 14 Pro Max when this virus is over. I’m having some headaches, but I’m also having coughing fits that seem to be the cause. Or I will get dehydrated while napping. I haven’t noticed headaches just from using the phone where something else wasn’t also going bad for me.
"For one, the next-gen iPhone SE—or the iPhone SE 4 as it will be referred to henceforth—will debut as Apple's only compact phone after the company eschewed the release of an iPhone 14 Mini. According to prior reports, the iPhone SE 4 will adopt the design of the iPhone XR."This has me excited.
This may be the perfect iPhone... super excited!"For one, the next-gen iPhone SE—or the iPhone SE 4 as it will be referred to henceforth—will debut as Apple's only compact phone after the company eschewed the release of an iPhone 14 Mini. According to prior reports, the iPhone SE 4 will adopt the design of the iPhone XR."
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Haha, that's exactly what I was thinking. Unless they plan to make the standard line larger, the XR/11 has never been the compact phone in the lineup, even if you remove the SE and Minis from the mix."For one, the next-gen iPhone SE—or the iPhone SE 4 as it will be referred to henceforth—will debut as Apple's only compact phone after the company eschewed the release of an iPhone 14 Mini. According to prior reports, the iPhone SE 4 will adopt the design of the iPhone XR."
Be careful now, My Xr might see this and get upset. I can't have it turning against me now! 😄
Okay, it might be time to talk me off a ledge.
I'm starting to incessantly recheck 14 Pro Max availability.
Had it for two days because I have loved Maxes in the past, but traded it for Pro because I liked the 6.1 of my 11, and I returned the Pro Saturday night--I've been enjoying my 11, but yesterday my boyfriend took photos that I couldn't, and I miss the 14's bright screen outside, and omg I CAN TELL that the 11 is slower in everything compared to the 14P/PM. And I'm going back to the 'I go on a trip soon, fun to have upgraded phone'--------AHHHHHH!
I'm starting to incessantly recheck 14 Pro Max availability.
Had it for two days because I have loved Maxes in the past, but traded it for Pro because I liked the 6.1 of my 11, and I returned the Pro Saturday night--I've been enjoying my 11, but yesterday my boyfriend took photos that I couldn't, and I miss the 14's bright screen outside, and omg I CAN TELL that the 11 is slower in everything compared to the 14P/PM. And I'm going back to the 'I go on a trip soon, fun to have upgraded phone'--------AHHHHHH!
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Gotta be honest, if I were going on a trip with a significant other that clearly had the phone with the better camera, I would lean into that. Let your boyfriend be the one responsible for taking photos on the trip and you can just enjoy the scenery. 😄 Assuming he's going on the trip, that is.
IPhone 14 is in the hands of FedEx now. The iPhone 11 is a fine phone and I am comfortable on it and mostly enjoying it.
There's zero chance of me going back, but I have to say, I miss the 14.
The snappiness, the way better cellular modem, and even on just a vanilla 14, the cameras.
It's not too inspiring to take pictures with the 11. But I found myself looking for opportunities to use the 14 cameras.
I didn't have the 14 pro version long enough to really put those cameras to the test but I can only imagine how hard it is for some of you to give up that set of cameras and go back to the 11 or SE.
Just want a modern phone with an LCD screen.
Probably going to give Apple another year or two, and if they can't pull it off I might have to jump ship. I just don't know what I would get. I'm pretty deep in Apple ecosystem.
Just a little vent to the OLED support group.
There's zero chance of me going back, but I have to say, I miss the 14.
The snappiness, the way better cellular modem, and even on just a vanilla 14, the cameras.
It's not too inspiring to take pictures with the 11. But I found myself looking for opportunities to use the 14 cameras.
I didn't have the 14 pro version long enough to really put those cameras to the test but I can only imagine how hard it is for some of you to give up that set of cameras and go back to the 11 or SE.
Just want a modern phone with an LCD screen.
Probably going to give Apple another year or two, and if they can't pull it off I might have to jump ship. I just don't know what I would get. I'm pretty deep in Apple ecosystem.
Just a little vent to the OLED support group.