Other Eye-strain while using iPhone X and up

[ctjack]

Hi ctjack,
With that treatment were you able to solve the problem? I mean, you couldn't use iPhones with OLED screens before, and now they don't give you issues anymore?
What was your main symptom? Eye strain or migraine?
Thank you

Hi, treatment works a little bit different.

So people have eye ball shape and if it is perfect, then the vision is perfect due to light refractions inside of it.

If the eye ball is out of shape then the focus point shifts giving vision acuity issues.

Now with computers/phones, those eyeballs are squeezed/relaxed by muscles around the eye to correct the focus. In normal habitat, person doesn't have screens (invention of the past 30 years) so naturally eye muscles would be squeezing and unsqueezing the eyeball multiple times a day.

With the introduction of screens, one can sit still for hours reading the text and eyeball is left squished by muscles. One time or hundred time that is fine, but over the year or years, that muscle gets stuck in that squeezed form focused on your most used distance (think of camera with stuck focus ring). Those drops help to relax those muscles so one can work as intended.

I think it is called "fake myopia" when muscles are strained but uncured in the childhood leads to permanent one with the use of glasses.

I don't have PWM issues per se, but iphone/macbook makes my eyes strained and thus i can't read the small text from a distance. With the drops, eyes feel relieved and i start seeing small text again. But I don't use my phone more than 30 mins a day for this reason and I didn't know any better before buying 2 macbooks.

My next laptop will be matte ips screen from Windows.

 

[PwmMen]

I've been using the iPhone 16 Plus for over 3 weeks now,
and still haven't had any problems. Simply fantastic, I can hardly believe it.
What a difference to the iPhone SE 2022, I finally arrived in the future.

 

[500kilohertz]

Are there different display types for the 16 Plus? Notebookcheck wrote somything about a very low modulation and also several users here can use the device without a problem.
For me it's still not usable. The screenshots and the picture of the screen are in low light. But even with higher brightness the modulation is pretty bad.

 

[Uncohtwo]

Are there different display types for the 16 Plus? Notebookcheck wrote somything about a very low modulation and also several users here can use the device without a problem.
For me it's still not usable. The screenshots and the picture of the screen are in low light. But even with higher brightness the modulation is pretty bad.


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I’m in the same boat. I returned the 16 pro because it wasn’t perfect (and didn’t feel like a MAJOR improvement that justified the expense), and I’ve been using the 16 plus over the past 10 days. Unfortunately, it’s still causing me problems. I put a blue light screen protector on, which knocked the discomfort down from a 3 to a 2, but I still feel eye strain if I use it for extended periods (5-10 minutes?) of time.

Not sure where I’ll go from here. Perhaps back to the tolerable 14…

 

[MICHAELSD]

iPhone 16 Pro in hand.

 

[Uncohtwo]

iPhone 16 Pro in hand.

How’s it going?

 

[2mw2]

iPhone 16 Pro in hand.

Are you turning off auto brightness, cranking the brightness up and setting the reduced white point ? I found that these were not enough and I had to put a privacy screen on for the iphone 16. it's not great but will need to spend more time on it, but at the same time, i am trying to reduce my screen time.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

Last night I set up my sister-in-law’s new iPhone 16. It actually took a good while due to some hiccups and needing to swap e-sims. It didn’t bother me at all during that hour or so. Still, I’m holding out to see what the 17 offers. But that was promising.

 

[pwm away]

iPhone 16 Plus picked up

 

[MICHAELSD]

I’m not going to wax poetic about iPhone 16 Pro because I’m not sure I have the passion for it anymore: it’s a gradual progression as expected. Slightly more tolerable generation-after-generation. Still not a super comfortable display to even stare at in my opinion, and it is capable of inducing migraines and headaches.

Quite a bit better than iPhone X, still not usable/practical for daily use, and the fact that it continues to cause PWM sensitivity doesn’t bother me as much as it used to: I can return this without the sentimental feelings and longing for a PWM-free iPhone.

In fact, I have iPhone 16 Pro in the next room yet I’m still typing this on my iPhone SE third-generation which is perfectly suitable for now.

 

[MICHAELSD]

How’s it going?

There was some optimism in the beginning, as usual, but it’s really not all that dramatically improved. See above for more detailed thoughts.

 

[MICHAELSD]

Are you turning off auto brightness, cranking the brightness up and setting the reduced white point ? I found that these were not enough and I had to put a privacy screen on for the iphone 16. it's not great but will need to spend more time on it, but at the same time, i am trying to reduce my screen time.

I’ve tried that, and while it does make the display look better, it doesn’t seem to improve the PWM situation. Auto-brightness is the preferred setting, as there’s been less and less reason to use Reduce White Point for this purpose as it doesn’t seem to really reduce modulations.

I still believe the display looks better, clearer, purer the lower the modulations are. Reading text on iPhone 16 Pro is especially still uncomfortable.

 

[2mw2]

Thanks for the feedback. FYI I sat down to watch a bit of YouTube on my SE yesterday night in a hotel room and I noticed immediately my eyes were losing focus. I checked the settings and found that True Tone was on. Not sure how it got turned on but i turned it off and things were much better. Not sure if it was a combination of the hotel led lights as well but it was weird.