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Other Face ID is Actually Better a Than Touch ID
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Why is it so difficult for pro-FaceID people to understand that many of us don’t want our phones to unlock everytime we look at it? Maybe I just want to see what time it is by waking up my screen. I can do that on my 7 by touching the home button with a finger that is not set up for Touch-ID.
I keep hearing this nonsense that Face-ID is more secure. Well no it’s not if your phone is constantly unlocking whenever you glance at it with no intention of using it.
Face-ID is neither a want or a need for me.
I keep hearing this nonsense that Face-ID is more secure. Well no it’s not if your phone is constantly unlocking whenever you glance at it with no intention of using it.
Face-ID is neither a want or a need for me.
Laying face up on a desk or next to you on a nightstand, the X isn't going to unlock unless you move your face almost directly over the phone. As I am typing this, my X is 1 foot in front of me on my desk and about 10 inches below my chin. I tap, check the time, and my phone does not unlock. I also leave my phone on my bed next to my head so I can turn and check the time there. With my head on my pillow and the phone about a foot away, face up, I tap to check the time, and again the phone does not unlock.
So I don't understand why it is so difficult for Pro-TouchID people to realize the phone doesn't constantly unlock whenever we glance at it in these situations?
No need to be so defensive.
To address this point, you can tap the screen to check the time, & then, not do anything........within 10 seconds, your phone locks again.
You can do that on the X/Xs/Xs Max/Xr by tapping the screen with any finger. If you're not looking directly at the phone, it won't unlock. If you are looking at the phone, it'll unlock, but then lock automatically after 10 seconds.
Don't glance at it straight on then. Or just let it lock itself 10 seconds later.
You're being pedantic & over-dramatising something that's very easy to adapt to.
Face ID was the result of more usable screen space for users versus the bezels wasting space. And many people actually did ask for more screen space as the result of Samsung Notes.
I've grown to like Face ID a bit more as of now.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I'm always doing stuff and my touch never registers because my hands are wet or dirty, always.
I don't know about you but I take comfort in that.
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What does that mean? Matte?
Edit...by the way, what do you call a dude with no arms or legs laying in front of your door?
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The Touch ID sensor is currently a glossy surfaces which is a magnet for oil, moisture and water. The finger print sensor on my Pixel 2 is matte and slightly textured and repels oil and moisture much better.
Compared with the sensor on my iPad, I have never had to wipe the finger print sensor or my hand because of a failed unlock attempt.
Not following your argument. Besides, as others have already pointed out and more in line of what I was indicating, there are gloves that work for any climate for the touch screen without having to remove them as you would with Touch ID. Two different scenarios.
That matte sensor never met me and everything I'm into, I'm skeptical. Having said that I read about the Samsung ultrasonic fingerprint reader that actually sounds promising.
By the way, you call a dude with no arms or legs laying in front of your door Mat...get it? His name is Mat and you wipe your shoes on a mat. If Mat were lying in front of your door with no arm or legs he couldn't do anything about you mistaking him for a mat and wiping your shoes. Funny, isn't it?
I didn't remember that you had to swipe the screen after unlocking. It seems that defeats the point of just looking at the phone if an additional gesture is needed.
That's why I don't even bother using face unlock on my Pixel 2. The finger print reader is just quick.
No need to wake the phone up, I just touch the reader as I get the phone out of my pocket and voila! I'm in the app I last used. I don't see the lock screen at all.
Agreed. On my iPhone 8, Touch ID is instant. I notice NO lag.
Is the answer to the question of more screen real state. I’d much rather have that than Touch ID personally.
I like Face ID but the times when it fails are kind of funny.
If I’m yawning, sneezing, and sometimes when my mouth is full eating.
Also it’s weird if you’re not LOOKING at it it won’t unlock... but will wait until your eyes look at the camera. Kind of makes me feel like it’s trolling me sometimes.
But generally I like it better than Touch ID.
If I’m yawning, sneezing, and sometimes when my mouth is full eating.
Also it’s weird if you’re not LOOKING at it it won’t unlock... but will wait until your eyes look at the camera. Kind of makes me feel like it’s trolling me sometimes.
But generally I like it better than Touch ID.
You are looking at it wrong.
Kidding aside I wasn't aware that chewing could affect unlocking!
Have you actually tried to use said gloves? It’s not a great experience. Again, you and I are just arguing our preference. I’d way rather have Touch ID 100% of the time, than have Face ID for the winter months in which I might wear gloves getting in and out of my car.
My argument is that it's difficult to use a touch screen device with gloves anyhow, regardless of how it unlocks. I still took my gloves off to type on my iPhone X - and yes I've owned several types of capacitive touch gloves (which IMO don't do a great job of keeping my hands warm to begin with).
You and I have been arguing simply what we prefer - which is fine, its why these forums exist. I am Pro Apple. I have an iMac 5k, MacBook Pro Touch Bar, both iPad Pros 12.9 and 10.5, Apple Watch 3rd Gen, and now an iPhone 8+ (sold my X). I am completely invested in the Apple ecosystem. With that said, I'm not afraid to criticize them when they put out a clunky product - which I think Face ID is (so is the Touch Bar on my MacBook Pro, separate topic). Face ID did not work for me multiple times daily, and it was frustrating compared to how reliable Touch ID was for me. I am also not a huge fan of the gesture only controls. Swiping up, pausing, holding down to bring up the red X, then closing the app - I found it tedious compared to double click home button, swipe to close app. (Small gripe I know, I think its been addressed in iOS 12). The time it takes Face ID to register and pull up my passwords on Safari feels slower than Touch ID, same with Apple Pay. Which apparently is faster now on this batch of iPhones - which I think completely sucks for people who bought an X. Thats how the tech business works, I get it, still sucks for them.
I'm also not sure I completely agree with Apple's obsession to make their iOS devices have little to no bezel. Aesthetically, it looks cool. In daily usage, the bezels actually provide room for your hands to grip without covering the screen. It also brought about the notch, which I think looks hideous. It's impossible to ignore watching videos (then there's the aspect ratio...) Again these are just my opinions, it's ok if you disagree! Face ID has clearly worked well for you and others, but I'm not alone in saying that it was a great idea, but needs much improvement to be my preference over touch ID.
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You should buy those gloves, try to text with them when youre outside in the cold, and THEN comment.
Ill save you the trouble. Your text message will have about 10 autocorrected words and will be about 75% of what you intended to say.
Yes, as I already said, and many others have, it’s a _non_issue. Yet, we can both make the counter argument between why face ID and touch ID have direct advantages and disadvantages over each other. The argument goes both ways. That’s perfectly fine you’re content with touch ID, but don’t try to be dismissive of the of the fact that Face ID functions in plenty of situations where touch ID struggled. Both biometric forms of security are relevant, but it’s also the fact that touch ID is not a part of Apples future, so face ID clearly is the focus.
Cover part of your face so it will fail (covering my mouth and nose do it for me) and then try to unlock it. Repeat until you have your answer.
Then you have what happened at last years keynote - phone asks for your passcode to unlock.
I think it happens after 4 failed Face ID scans.