iPhone X Face ID is Preventing Me From Buying an iPhone X - Anyone Else?

[sactownbwoy]

Ok...so you choose not to use TouchID?

From what you wrote...it's because you want more security by having to enter the passcode.

Perfectly understandable.

Correct. I got the iPhone 8+, wanted the X but I can wait for next years version. FaceID is not a deal breaker for me.

Everyone has their own use cases and if faceID isn’t for you just get the i or wait until next years version of the X. Maybe then, Apple will have touchID figured out for a full screen phone.

 

[Naramis]

Speaking for myself, when you need to be wearing a surgical mask I hope you won’t be anywhere near your phone.

Mostly sitting around waiting for the patient to arrive or the room to be cleaned, it's not like I'm texting in the middle of an operation. I could lower the mask, sure, but it's annoying to have to do it every time I want to check my phone

 

[JCCL]

No. After using a Surface Pro 4 with awesome Windows Hello face recognition, I’m sure Face ID will be as good if not better. What is preventing me from do is the 999 price tag which is even more expensive in my country. Hard to justify with a mint iPhone 7 Plus.

 

[Nozuka]

Mostly sitting around waiting for the patient to arrive or the room to be cleaned, it's not like I'm texting in the middle of an operation. I could lower the mask, sure, but it's annoying to have to do it every time I want to check my phone

are you not wearing gloves?

 

[swedegirl]

Let me first say that I think Face ID will function as advertised. That's not my issue. My issue is that there are specific situations where the phone isn't in my hand and getting my face where it needs to be simply won't work. Some examples:

I'm in meetings all day and frequently need to quietly check an email or two; Face ID would require me to pick up the phone to look at it or lean forward in an obvious manner, tipping off the person speaking.

I commute by car each day and use a vent mount to hold my phone; Face ID would require me to do neck gymnastics to get my eyes oriented over the center console to unlock it if I'm getting gas or am parked in a queue to pick up my son after school.

At my desk, my iPhone lies flat about 8 inches away from the keyboard. To wake the phone I merely press the home button. To unlock it I keep pressing. With Face ID to wake the phone lying flat on the desk I need to use my whole hand to grip the phone and hit the side button with my thumb. If I then want to unlock it I need to pick it up and point it at my face.

I have a beach house and am full of sticky sunscreen and sand as I sit in my chair with my phone lying flat on the armrest. With Touch ID all I have to do is keep my pointer finger clean to unlock the phone. With Face ID I have to grab the entire phone with my dirty hand, get the case full of oily chemicals, and get the case full of gritty sand merely to check for a text message notification which I tend to do every 15 minutes.

I use Apple Pay constantly and the new behavior adds steps and complexity. With Touch ID all I have to do is slide my hand in my pocket, pull it out by the thumb, and before the phone hits the wireless terminal it's already unlocked and authenticated. With Face ID it takes twice as long to double click buttons, raise the phone to my face, etc.

I'm not afraid of the technology. I believe it will function as advertised. What I'm saying is that there is nothing convenient about Face ID except almost exclusively for situations where the phone is in your hand. And for my usecases at least 50% of the time my phone is not in my hand when I need to unlock it. So it will prevent me from buying a X. Which is a shame because I like the new screen and I like the new gestures and am bored of the 6/7/8 form factor.

All these are the reasons why I got the 8

 

[Technarchy]

Face ID is not a factor in my reasons for choosing an iPhone 8+ over an iPhone X.

 

[forecheck]

I have the same reservations about having to actually look at phone to unlock, instead of being able to do it with my finger while I am doing other things, but I am still going to order the X. I figure if it doesn't work well I can always re-sell the phone since it will be in high demand if I get an early ship date. Or if I get a later ship date, the reviews will already be in on how well it works and can cancel before it ships and decide if I will get an 8 or wait until next September.

 

[jbanning]

Agreed.

And that's what Apple is asking ipX buyers ...trust us.

I'm not good with that right now.

ipX == beta testers

Can’t wait to beta test. Bring it on!

 

[TruBleu]

Your comment above details what I'd call "sunglasses mode" where you can disable Face ID's need to see your eyes for authentication.

It does not address "flat on a table" mode where the sensors are pointed directly at the ceiling and one is sitting at a 90 degree angle to the sensors. I don't see how an iPhone X lying on a conference table is going to see my face from 3 feet away at a very sharp angle. From all I've seen of people using the X both at the keynote and at the postgame events, it has to be held up as if you're taking a selfie.

See from 21.15

I know no one has shown this in any of the many hands on demos yet. But it is right there in the keynote. So I would wait for trying it out myself once released instead of claiming it won’t, or for that matter, it will work.

 

[borntrouble]

Can anyone clarify this? I heard somewhere that when your X lies next to you on your desk, you just have to look at it --> display lights up and unlocks. Is this the case?

 

[44267547]

Can anyone clarify this? I heard somewhere that when your X lies next to you on your desk, you just have to look at it --> display lights up and unlocks. Is this the case?

If The iPhone X is laying on a flat surface, you just have to activate the display and it will unlock once you are looking at the device.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/09/15/face-id-overview/

 

[Daventry]

Will existing Touch ID apps work with Face ID? i.e. - Will iOS resolve API calls to Touch ID and bring up Face ID?

Having to wait for all apps to upgrade would be a bummer... I trust 1Password would be pretty quick to update their app but english banks may take ages. Also if Apple's actually working on a behind-the-screen Touch ID some developers might not bother implement Face ID at all?

 

[The Game 161]

As others have said, tap to wake helps to mitigate some of these issues, but I do agree with the gist of your post. I’m concerned that the iPhone X implementation of FaceID will be less convenient than TouchID. And I’m not sure about the gestures that will replace home button functionality.

Thought it only has rise to wake not tap to wake?

 

[maflynn]

I'm not sold on FaceID yet, but then I think its too early to tell how its successful its going to be in real world usage.

 

[Foogoofish]

I'm not sold on FaceID yet, but then I think its too early to tell how its successful its going to be in real world usage.

I'm with you on this, though for me it's pushing through the train / tube queues in rush hour at London. If anyone knows Brixton station in the morning, you have 10+ faces looking over your shoulder to get to the payment terminal. It's got to be pretty sharp to pick you out of that quick enough to hit apple pay. If it can deal with that I'm sold

 

[BeeGood]

Thought it only has rise to wake not tap to wake?

The X will have both. Federighi (or maybe Shiller) demo’d it during the announcement.

 

[Daventry]

Will existing Touch ID apps work with Face ID? i.e. - Will iOS resolve API calls to Touch ID and bring up Face ID?

Having to wait for all apps to upgrade would be a bummer... I trust 1Password would be pretty quick to update their app but english banks may take ages. Also if Apple's actually working on a behind-the-screen Touch ID some developers might not bother implement Face ID at all?

This seems to answer my question - https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/28/will-touch-id-apps-work-with-face-id/

 

[The Game 161]

The X will have both. Federighi (or maybe Shiller) demo’d it during the announcement.

That’s good then thought it was just rise

 

[boltjames]

Can anyone clarify this? I heard somewhere that when your X lies next to you on your desk, you just have to look at it --> display lights up and unlocks. Is this the case?

From what we have seen in Apple's official video, lying flat on a desk the display unlocks only if a) you tap it to wake up and then b) lurch your face forward and over the display in an unnatural manner.

 

[Red Queen]

Touch ID has already been disgusting, but Face ID is even worse. I don´t want my phone to treat me like a criminal. I don´t want my fingerprints and face being scanned. I claim, that these biometric "security" systems are intentionally introduced in order to playfully get us accustomed to the oncoming total surveillance state. And the "ears" on the iPhone X look like horns to me! So I have the horns of the devil on a device that scans my face. Thanks, but, no! Yes, Face ID is preventing me from buying the iPhone X.

 

[PeterRollback]

Let me first say that I think Face ID will function as advertised. That's not my issue. My issue is that there are specific situations where the phone isn't in my hand and getting my face where it needs to be simply won't work. Some examples:

I'm in meetings all day and frequently need to quietly check an email or two; Face ID would require me to pick up the phone to look at it or lean forward in an obvious manner, tipping off the person speaking.

I commute by car each day and use a vent mount to hold my phone; Face ID would require me to do neck gymnastics to get my eyes oriented over the center console to unlock it if I'm getting gas or am parked in a queue to pick up my son after school.

At my desk, my iPhone lies flat about 8 inches away from the keyboard. To wake the phone I merely press the home button. To unlock it I keep pressing. With Face ID to wake the phone lying flat on the desk I need to use my whole hand to grip the phone and hit the side button with my thumb. If I then want to unlock it I need to pick it up and point it at my face.

I have a beach house and am full of sticky sunscreen and sand as I sit in my chair with my phone lying flat on the armrest. With Touch ID all I have to do is keep my pointer finger clean to unlock the phone. With Face ID I have to grab the entire phone with my dirty hand, get the case full of oily chemicals, and get the case full of gritty sand merely to check for a text message notification which I tend to do every 15 minutes.

I use Apple Pay constantly and the new behavior adds steps and complexity. With Touch ID all I have to do is slide my hand in my pocket, pull it out by the thumb, and before the phone hits the wireless terminal it's already unlocked and authenticated. With Face ID it takes twice as long to double click buttons, raise the phone to my face, etc.

I'm not afraid of the technology. I believe it will function as advertised. What I'm saying is that there is nothing convenient about Face ID except almost exclusively for situations where the phone is in your hand. And for my usecases at least 50% of the time my phone is not in my hand when I need to unlock it. So it will prevent me from buying a X. Which is a shame because I like the new screen and I like the new gestures and am bored of the 6/7/8 form factor.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you do, what is your job? I'm actually just curious and I'd like to compare with my job. Thank you.

 

[ABC5S]

For me, I do not wish to become a guinea pig on the first year FaceID. I’m sure Apple will work out any kinks, but the iPhone 8+ is a winner for those that want to hold off one or two years until there is some data for the face ID. We know what happend with touch ID on the first year and the second year it was more responsive.

 

[C DM]

Touch ID has already been disgusting, but Face ID is even worse. I don´t want my phone to treat me like a criminal. I don´t want my fingerprints and face being scanned. I claim, that these biometric "security" systems are intentionally introduced in order to playfully get us accustomed to the oncoming total surveillance state. And the "ears" on the iPhone X look like horns to me! So I have the horns of the devil on a device that scans my face. Thanks, but, no! Yes, Face ID is preventing me from buying the iPhone X.

Kind of like the internet is there to get us used to reading information and just going along with anything we read (even though it seems that most don't even really need any getting used to that).

 

[bob24]

For me, I do not wish to become a guinea pig on the first year FaceID. I’m sure Apple will work out any kinks, but the iPhone 8+ is a winner for those that want to hold off one or two years until there is some data for the face ID. We know what happend with touch ID on the first year and the second year it was more responsive.

Actually first and second year Touch ID were pretty much the same, the iPhone 6 wasn’t really more responsive than the 5S. It is from the third year that it got better. But having said that the first generation was perfectly adequate and I don’t think anyone who used it thought they made a mistake doing so and should have waited for gen 2.

 

[phillytim]

Actually first and second year Touch ID were pretty much the same, the iPhone 6 wasn’t really more responsive than the 5S. It is from the third year that it got better. But having said that the first generation was perfectly adequate and I don’t think anyone who used it thought they made a mistake doing so and should have waited for gen 2.

I was a fan of the TouchID from when I got the 5S on 2013 launch day. It worked great, and I always believe that Apple wouldn't provide technology unless it was proven. I'd expect no less from FaceID.