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I'm with you on this, though for me it's pushing through the train / tube queues in rush hour at London. If anyone knows Brixton station in the morning, you have 10+ faces looking over your shoulder to get to the payment terminal. It's got to be pretty sharp to pick you out of that quick enough to hit apple pay. If it can deal with that I'm sold

I can't see Face ID working in that scenario. This feature is setting up to be very problematic in many realworld use cases.

Facegate is surely going to make December very entertaining.
 
As an anesthesiologist I'm wearing a surgical mask a lot of the time when at work, and I assume Face ID won't work with that since it covers my nose and mouth. It would be annoying to have to remove the mask every time I want to unlock the phone. I don't want to go to Android, but if Touch ID doesn't come back next year, I might have to..

Legit concern for me too for similar reasons.

Speaking for myself, when you need to be wearing a surgical mask I hope you won’t be anywhere near your phone.

Sorry, but you do not understand how things work in these settings.

are you not wearing gloves?

Should he be wearing gloves to use his phone?
 
I am confused OP. Don’t like a feature, than don’t use it/ turn it off. You don’t have to use Touch ID or Face ID just because it’s there. you can use the regular 4/6 digit or an alphanumeric passcode sure it’s slower but still works for locking the device, Apple Pay etc.
 
Should he be wearing gloves to use his phone?

he's complaining that he can't use FaceID while wearing a surgical mask.
and in my mind he'll most likely be wearing gloves in these situations too, which would make it impossible to use touchID.
 
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Thank you for that clarification, tapping to wake the phone while it lies flat is a step in the right direction.
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This is a good option but the local Apple store has the 8 256GB Space Grey in stock and waiting another month or two to upgrade from my three year old 6 is a challenge.
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Thank you for the clarifications and tap to wake helps, but if I have a device flat on a conference table and tap to see that I have a text I need to respond to, I still am in the awkward position of either picking it up or leaning my face over the table in order to engage Face ID. This will tip off the rest of the people in the meeting that I'm not entirely paying attention, and this happens to me several times a day.

Then you have a PIN so you can use that instead.
 
I would actually like you to be the first guinea pigs with this new FaceID. I’ll wait until next year to be on the safer side I hope
lol I don’t see how not getting a new phone this year to just get it this year is different. It’s same technology. Maybe faster but oh well
 
All the cases you posted are valid concerns.

At best, FaceID will require little more than an additional 1 second delay to do its work. But it may prove that FaceID will impose more of an imposition than TouchID to unlock your phone.

We don't know.

But I believe Apple blundered by choosing not to support TouchID in the ipX.

As I said countless times before...TouchID is a proven and convenient means to unlock your phone.

It was irresponsible of Apple to not include it. We don't know if TouchID will be replaced by FaceID at some point in the future.

ipX users are beta testers of this new technology.

I don't beta test. End of story.
Hate to burst your bubble, but FaceId has replaced TouchID. Do you actually believe Apple is on,y doing it for 1 year.
Nobody has been able to get any type of TouchID Working underneath a glass display and Apple chose not to put an ugly eye sore on the back where it can be accidentally accessed by the simple process of holding the phone.
 
Why would anyone ever "want" this feature? This is more of a we did it, and you WILL adapt thing.
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Your wife isn't a "conspiracy theorist" considering this was all proven recently they are doing this to us.
They still can do it using the front facing camera anyway. They can do this this using the iPhone 8 just as easily as the X.
 
Hate to burst your bubble, but FaceId has replaced TouchID. Do you actually believe Apple is on,y doing it for 1 year.
Nobody has been able to get any type of TouchID Working underneath a glass display and Apple chose not to put an ugly eye sore on the back where it can be accidentally accessed by the simple process of holding the phone.

You aren't bursting my bubble. And of course, Apple will do what they want to do.

But I value TouchID. That's not to say FaceID is a success or a failure...too early to say.

But if FaceId doesn't pass muster, I will buy a phone that still has TouchID. Even if FaceID is the future, TouchID models abound.

My options are open...
 
Oh, okay.

So today, right now, disable Touch ID on your phone and use a PIN for the week, let me know how you like it.

I do it all the time, I have been disabled touchID to unlock my phone over a month ago. Hasn’t slowed me down one bit
 
Thank you for the clarifications and tap to wake helps, but if I have a device flat on a conference table and tap to see that I have a text I need to respond to, I still am in the awkward position of either picking it up or leaning my face over the table in order to engage Face ID. This will tip off the rest of the people in the meeting that I'm not entirely paying attention, and this happens to me several times a day.

If you think placing your finger on your TouchID and then looking at your phone is not noticed by your colleagues then you're probably mistaken. You're making a bigger deal about it than it is. Checking important notifications for a second during a meeting is just part of modern life.
 
I'm with you on this, though for me it's pushing through the train / tube queues in rush hour at London. If anyone knows Brixton station in the morning, you have 10+ faces looking over your shoulder to get to the payment terminal. It's got to be pretty sharp to pick you out of that quick enough to hit apple pay. If it can deal with that I'm sold :)

I get caught behind people all the time trying to activate their phone when TouchID doesn't work properly. It's a pain in the proverbial. If FaceID is more reliable then 'hooray!'
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.......How is this different than using TouchID? One way or another you're typing on your phone when you should be paying attention to the meeting. How you unlock the phone seems like the least of the issue in that situation.
This is my question, it is a locking mechanism that even with typing in the long passcode is maybe 2 seconds.
Would you buy a different house if the lock on the door changed?
Good analogy or not. Unlocking the phone, even prior to TouchID being implemented, 100 times over the course of a day is 3-4 minutes of interaction.
Personally I am hoping everyone is concerned with FaceID and do not order one, higher chance for me to get mine on day 1. Now I wonder why am I making any kind of case for it.

Yeah FaceID is going to be terrible, just terrible. Get a 7s.
 
I can't see Face ID working in that scenario. This feature is setting up to be very problematic in many realworld use cases.

Facegate is surely going to make December very entertaining.

I would think that background faces would be a pretty obvious scenario that Apple would account for. I would think that as long as the other faces aren’t closer to the scanner than yours is, it will probably work.
 
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Hate to burst your bubble, but FaceId has replaced TouchID. Do you actually believe Apple is on,y doing it for 1 year.
Nobody has been able to get any type of TouchID Working underneath a glass display and Apple chose not to put an ugly eye sore on the back where it can be accidentally accessed by the simple process of holding the phone.

Qualcomm got it working. But it seems to be rather slow at the moment and is not yet ready for high volume production.
Also no information on accuracy at the moment. (that i know of)

But i suspect it won't get a long lifetime. Something that only serves one purpose is just not very practical in a device with limited space.
 
These posts are HILARIOUS to me.

It’s so true that people don’t like change. At all. So much so that they invent reasons to dislike something new. TouchID is proven - therefore anything else is not worth it? How will we ever advance as a species if we live in the past? TouchID is the past, now. Welcome to the future.

Best part of your post, though? One less person to fight on the Internets to get my iPhone X preorder in on October 27.
Face ID may be the future but right now we don't know how accurately unlocks or how easy it works with out hold to face.

Can't really stoutly defend when haven't even hit the streets.
 
Face ID may be the future but right now we don't know how accurately unlocks or how easy it works with out hold to face.

Can't really stoutly defend when haven't even hit the streets.

I’m only defending the fact that its detractors have declared it dead in the water before using it. So you know. Touché.
 
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