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rawCpoppa

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Agreed. Game over for Intel indeed. Super happy that my MBA is arriving Nov 17th.

If it’s one thing I’ve learned in the tech industry is to never count a company out prematurely. Apple was near death at one point now look at it. I swore AMD couldn’t last yet they came back roaring. Intel has problems but these are early days yet. Competition is good. Maybe intel will compete....in 2026.
 

Ethosik

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I was on the fence getting a new Mac mini to replace my 2019 i9 iMac and I am wondering if these tests prove it will be worth it. If it can beat the iMac Pro, it will certainly beat my iMac. I deal with 1080p 60 footage 95% of the time. Honestly, going from my 2010 Mac Pro to my 2019 i9 iMac has not been a major improvement and has been a serious disappointment.
 

PeterTheGreat17

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I was on the fence getting a new Mac mini to replace my 2019 i9 iMac and I am wondering if these tests prove it will be worth it. If it can beat the iMac Pro, it will certainly beat my iMac. I deal with 1080p 60 footage 95% of the time. Honestly, going from my 2010 Mac Pro to my 2019 i9 iMac has not been a major improvement and has been a serious disappointment.
I too own a 2019 i9 iMac, and I feel like it kinda struggles after two luts and subtitles to render. However it has been shutting off on itself while rendering for a couple of times. If the M1 MacBook Pro beats i9 iMac, I’m definitely getting it. And so far, it’s looking pretty promising
 
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SeattleMoose

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Apple has just put a gray "granny wig" on all Intel machines.......M1 INCOMING!!!

In response, Intel is coming out with CPU lipstick....to try and doll up those obsolete pigs!!!
 

rafark

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You can use this site to translate the images: (I was curious about the metaphor the OP didn’t want to translate)

 

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I was on the fence getting a new Mac mini to replace my 2019 i9 iMac and I am wondering if these tests prove it will be worth it. If it can beat the iMac Pro, it will certainly beat my iMac. I deal with 1080p 60 footage 95% of the time. Honestly, going from my 2010 Mac Pro to my 2019 i9 iMac has not been a major improvement and has been a serious disappointment.

I too own a 2019 i9 iMac, and I feel like it kinda struggles after two luts and subtitles to render. However it has been shutting off on itself while rendering for a couple of times. If the M1 MacBook Pro beats i9 iMac, I’m definitely getting it. And so far, it’s looking pretty promising
I'd caution you to wait for a more direct comparison. The question of codecs and hardware acceleration might affect performance

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/jvlhk7/_/gckvjmx
 
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fiatlux

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I'd caution you to wait for a more direct comparison. The question of codecs and hardware acceleration might affect performance

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/jvlhk7/_/gckvjmx
That what I was wondering as well. Hardware encoding is usually much faster but limited in terms of settings. Probably good enough for a YouTube exports but, for a high-quality master copy, I guess you’d prefer a software encoding (which could still be hardware accelerated) with tuned quality settings.
 
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ian87w

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8gb RAM.

Maybe 16gb of RAM on an M1 is enough.
I think RAM will play a more important factor when the user has multiple apps running and/or working on multiple/larger files.

Current ipads have no problem in encoding. But once you add more layers during the edit process, that's where it starts to choke due to RAM.
 

anshuvorty

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If it’s one thing I’ve learned in the tech industry is to never count a company out prematurely. Apple was near death at one point now look at it. I swore AMD couldn’t last yet they came back roaring. Intel has problems but these are early days yet. Competition is good. Maybe intel will compete....in 2026.
Trust me when I say this but until Intel fixes its issues with its corporate and management structure, they will continue to play second fiddle to AMD and now Apple.

In other words, they need an engineer at helm as its CEO not a finance guy like Swan. Until they realize this, they will continue to lose dominance and quickly will become irrelevant by the end of this decade.
 

ArPe

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For those using FCPX this is great, but bear in mind Apple controls how the app runs on both pieces of hardware in this test. They can optimize better for their own GPU and video encoders. Apple’s support for Radeon encoding is notoriously bad compared to the same GPU on Windows.

Reliable comparison tests would come from Premiere and Resolve. But even in those cases the drivers are controlled by Apple, so people will compare the performance of those apps against Wintel. Hope it looks good.
 

ArPe

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I'd caution you to wait for a more direct comparison. The question of codecs and hardware acceleration might affect performance

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/jvlhk7/_/gckvjmx
Yes this is exactly the problem that Mac Pro users have been talking about for ages. The Mac drivers for Radeon cards really lack full support for what the GPU is capable of. So these comparisons only look impressive to people lacking knowledge. The Radeon GPUs are obviously more capable than the M1 GPU. The drivers just aren’t there and never will be.
 

yoak

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Yes this is exactly the problem that Mac Pro users have been talking about for ages. The Mac drivers for Radeon cards really lack full support for what the GPU is capable of. So these comparisons only look impressive to people lacking knowledge. The Radeon GPUs are obviously more capable than the M1 GPU. The drivers just aren’t there and never will be.
Weil, it’s how it works in real life that counts. How is my workflow affected? If it’s a driver issue and it won’t improve, then it’s a lot better to be on a M1 Mac when I run Fcpx
 
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