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Apple needs to investigate this ASAP.
It is starting to look really bad...
they are.. they most definitely are.


(speculation mode follows)
however, if there's a problem with the 8 that Apple knows about, i highly doubt they're going to publicly recognize it until after the X is out for a while.. if ever.. (unless, of course, so many explode that they don't have to publicly recognize it because the public will recognize it on their own)

exploding 8 will be very bad news towards potential X buyers..


literally millions of buyers will re-consider buying an X if the latest iPhone 8 is an exploder.

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it sucks to be a consumer in this position.. you can pretty much know Apple will need to keep this under wraps if at all possible.. or, you can't 100% trust Apple to come out tomorrow and recall the 8, even if there were a problem.

they could, i suppose, stop production and recall all the yet to be sold phones.. make the production fix.. and keep going..
without us knowing about it. (which, to me, is an ok solution btw assuming an explosion with the existing phones is found to be extremely unlikely.. i wouldn't be surprised at all if something similar has happened with other past products)


but at the same time, there's sooo much money at stake regarding iphoneX sales and competing products.. like- billions of dollars.. that it would be entirely worth it for a shady competitor to try to sabotage Apple in this way.


there's no way any of us know the truth about any of this.. we can speculate all we like but it's simply speculation.. (well, an incredibly keen forum detective may show up soon and give a bit more insight one way or the other.. but for now, speculation ;) )



idk, i hate to be country_ist but, until i see an iPhone 8 explode in Nancy Jones' suburbia American kitchen, i'm going to lean towards taking this explosion report very lightly.
 
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A Taiwan Bloggers has been questioned about this case https://mrmad.com.tw/china-iphone-8-combustion

Analysis of the world's first "China iPhone 8 charging spontaneous combustion incident" is accidental or artificial?
List a few questions:
1. Charge in kitchen?
2. No scorched marks
3. Border is abnormally broken
4. Abnormal bending
5. Abnormal back cover broken
 
Regardless what happened with this iPhone or any other exploding iPhone, these issues have to be investigated one way or the other. But there are so many variables and contributing factors that can cause a phone to explode. But this is nowhere near on the level or in the same realm of what the Note 7 was, and shouldn't be compared To it.
 
The screen would sooner pop of if the batter expands, and it is still (mostly) in place without bending.
And without any burn marks at all, makes this very questionable.

It looks more like problems with the charging coil, and might have overheated and cracked the glass, after cold water was poured over it.
Guess the wattage of the wireless charger was a bit too high ?
 
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A Taiwan Bloggers has been questioned about this case https://mrmad.com.tw/china-iphone-8-combustion

Analysis of the world's first "China iPhone 8 charging spontaneous combustion incident" is accidental or artificial?
List a few questions:
1. Charge in kitchen?
2. No scorched marks
3. Border is abnormally broken
4. Abnormal bending
5. Abnormal back cover broken

thanks for posting this. the taiwanese blogger(s) really did a good analysis of the case etc.

seems to have been case tampering or something like that.

i myself have been thinking that it is a chinese battery competitor staging these incidents.
 
How long do you think it will be before we have some clarity on these incidents? Specifically official word from Apple and results from investigating these issues that may or may not be real.
 
Swollen batteries are nothing new. Search this forum. It goes all the way back to the iPhone 5. Maybe earlier. The denial back then was stupid as well. Blaming the individuals for misuse.

The only new twist is the wireless charger. New tech, new components, first model year. Not impossible that Apple or a component supplier got it wrong. If not for all, then a batch.

It’s a few units. Has happened for years. Until it reaches the hundreds, I don’t think anyone needs to be concerned about a widespread problem/recall.
 
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Swollen batteries are nothing new. Search this forum. It goes all the way back to the iPhone 5. Maybe earlier. The denial back then was stupid as well. Blaming the individuals for misuse.

The only new twist is the wireless charger. New tech, new components, first model year. Not impossible that Apple or a component supplier got it wrong. If not for all, then a batch.

It’s a few units. Has happened for years. Until it reaches the hundreds, I don’t think anyone needs to be concerned about a widespread problem/recall.

i think you're confusing swollen batteries with exploding phones..
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I am very amused by the fact that people think Greece is in China

edit: Canada too apparently
i think you're confusing swollen batteries with exploding phones..
 
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Not relevant to this thread, but I'm skeptical about where the issues are occurring, having purchased (for fun) a fake iPhone to see what it was made of (spoiler alert - garbage/dangerous components).
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I am very amused by the fact that people think Greece is in China

edit: Canada too apparently

Yeah, Greece is in such better (financial) shape that there can't POSSIBLY be fake iPhones roaming around Athens.

Ever been to the 2004 Olympic stadium?
 
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I don’t see this as a reason to worry. I’m sure every model of every phone has exploded at some point. Hell I had an iPod Nano I think it was. The short, wide ones with the click wheel. Anyways, it was sitting on my bedside table one day, not being charged or anything, and all of a sudden started smoking and shot off the table. After it cooled down I picked it up and checked it out. Appeared the battery exploded. I just threw it away. Only  product...any product for that matter that has ever exploded on me. It happens, it’s definitely not ideal, but it happens. I’ll be more concerned if there’s mass reports of it.
 
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Actually it is the same thing. This is starting exactly how the Note 7 started.

Not really, the first explosion reported was 5 days after launch in the US... Then the hits kept on coming.

It took about 2 weeks for one in China to explode. Where they have counterfeit iPhones and charging devices. Also these pictures are Vastly different then the first Note 7.
 
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Not really, the first explosion reported was 5 days after launch in the US... Then the hits kept on coming.

It took about 2 weeks for one in China to explode. Where they have counterfeit iPhones and charging devices. Also these pictures are Vastly different then the first Note 7.
Yes really. Iphone 8 first week had 2 reports. And they are growing. That's inside a case. There are videos of it smoking. Again it's happening the same way as the notes and will get worse.
 
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Yes really. Iphone 8 first week had 2 reports. And they are growing. That's inside a case. There are videos of it smoking. Again it's happening the same way as the notes and will get worse.


The notes had scorch marks... This iPhone does not. The notes had an explosion in 5 days, the iPhone had expansion.

Now this is not a good thing. It remains to be seen what the outcome will be. It is not as bad as the Note situation (yet). In the end it could be worse, we don't know.

PS: you mentioned a video of an 8 smoking, do you have a link?
 
The final report on the Note battery issue showed that the metal chassis was creating a dead short and causing the batteries to explode. In the Apple case I doubt the it's the same issue. Perhaps a charger/battery issue. I'd be surprised if Apple would allow the design to allow metal in close contact with the battery terminal leads.
 
I wouldn’t publicly report my apple blown battery for fear the iHitmen would put out an iHit on me.

But seriously this thread made me laugh out loud. Theres such a panic on here, an energy that ripples through the whole thread of absolute horror that this could have happened. I mean, some of you are actually refusing to beleive it and sound actual “hurt” by the whole debacle.

Not one poster here has shown any concern for the poor sod who carried this phone but instead are so focused on Apples welfare and reputation. I know most of you are hardcore loyal to the company but come on, no ones accusing or pointing fingers, it is what it is, a phone that exploded.

It happened, its not the first time, wont be the last and happens to most smartphone manufacturers. Get over it. Get some perspective. Go and talk to a friend or a loved one about something that really matters.

I mean, i’m not trying to sound rude or dismissive but its just sometimes these fan wars for electronic devices become all consuming where all folks end up doing is argue and defend one way or the other. Just relax, enjoy your purchases. Enjoy your folks. Enjoy each other. We’re here for a good time not a long time.
 
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The notes had scorch marks... This iPhone does not. The notes had an explosion in 5 days, the iPhone had expansion.

Now this is not a good thing. It remains to be seen what the outcome will be. It is not as bad as the Note situation (yet). In the end it could be worse, we don't know.

PS: you mentioned a video of an 8 smoking, do you have a link?

Last I checked, I owned the Note 7 and followed all the threads. Note 7 smoking yes, I never said the 8. Expansion and smoke is what the iPhone is doing, same as the Note 7.


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The final report on the Note battery issue showed that the metal chassis was creating a dead short and causing the batteries to explode. In the Apple case I doubt the it's the same issue. Perhaps a charger/battery issue. I'd be surprised if Apple would allow the design to allow metal in close contact with the battery terminal leads.

Remember, there were two issues. 1st set and second set. Second set acted more like the iPhone issues.

The first problem affected the first batch of Note 7 phones that launched last fall. In those phones, the battery was too large for its casing, causing some devices to overheat, according to Samsung's report.

Recalling the initial batch of Note 7 phones, Samsung manufactured the phone with a battery from a different supplier. But Samsung was in a rush to get the new phones out, and the new battery produced by the supplier had a defect that also caused it to overheat, the report said.

http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-issues-galaxy-note-7-battery-report-2017-1
 
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