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If it was fire/explosion, why there isn’t any burn or charring marks around the hole? And it looked like the phone was bent. When the battery wells, it would just pop out the screen, not bend the aluminum frame.

Just asking.
And not stereotyping or anything, but I would believe more about the swelling issues in Japan and Canada, vs these explosion from Chinese sites.
 
Depends what country you buy it in. It still has the regulatory symbols on the back if bought in Europe.
That is why I asked the question. I knew Europe required them but did not know if China required anything like that.

i did not know that.. i assumed everywhere was the same regarding this.

fwiw, here's how it went in the U.S..

6, 6s, 7, 8
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Nice try fraudster, pour gasoline on your phone and troll for attention? I hope Apple sues you out of existence.
 
You should probably report them to the SEC.

This is straight up fraud, probably not securities fraud. Not sure what your point is.

I'm sure Apple's legal team is already on it. So many things about this story don't make sense, it's 99.99% chance a lie.
 
This is straight up fraud, probably not securities fraud. Not sure what your point is.

I'm sure Apple's legal team is already on it. So many things about this story don't make sense, it's 99.99% chance a lie.

How did you come to the determination that this is fraud?
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It's coming from . Anything from their should looked at with suspicion

*there.

Care to clarify what you mean by this? You do realize that most of your Apple components are manufactured in China.
 
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Care to clarify what you mean by this? You do realize that most of your Apple components are manufactured in China.
right.
there are far more people with a ve$ted interest in sabotaging a phone in eastern Asia.

like, if someone were wanting to try to put a huge dent in iPhone X sales, that person/organization would most likely be based in China.. or nearby.
 
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right.
there are far more people with a ve$ted interest in sabotaging a phone in eastern Asia.

like, if someone were wanting to try to put a huge dent in iPhone X sales, that person/organization would most likely be based in China.. or nearby.

This is by far, the stupidest conspiracy theory I have heard.
 
This is by far, the stupidest conspiracy theory I have heard.
really?

which part?
that a company may want to financially harm another through product/image sabotage?

or that if a company were to do something like that regarding electronic devices, it's likely they'd be based in eastern Asia?

or both of those are fine, it's just combining them that makes it so stupid to you?
 
really?

which part?
that a company may want to financially harm another through product/image sabotage?
or that if a company were to do something like that, it's likely they'd be based in eastern Asia?

or both of those are fine, it's just combining them that makes it so stupid to you?

That you, and so many people have reached this conspiracy theory conclusion, based on a few reports of defective units.

The confidence in your conclusion, with zero evidence besides that it happened in Asia. It is ABSURD.

Let me boil down your argument:

Defective iPhones-->

reported in Asia (actually, according to OP, in Canada and other European countries as well) -->

CONSPIRACY THEORY. This is sabotage/fraud.

See how stupid that is?
 
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That you, and so many people have reached this conspiracy theory conclusion, based on a few reports of defective units.

The confidence in your conclusion, with zero evidence besides that it happened in Asia. It is ABSURD.

Let me boil down your argument:

Defective iPhones-->

reported in Asia (actually, according to OP, in Canada and other European countries as well) -->

CONSPIRACY THEORY. This is sabotage/fraud.

See how stupid that is?

it's stupid if you read it through your filter that everybody is being racist conspiracy theorists..

while meanwhile, seeing a picture of a single instance showing an exploded phone with no actual signs of an explosion.. with very sketchy details (like, even the people in this thread who can read the language it was originally reported in can't seem to tell the actual story as written).. virtually no proof whatsoever that this single phone has exploded.. OP registered the acct and first post was this story.. etc

and if someone questions the validity of whether or not this is an actual manufacturing defect, they're racist conspiracy theorists?

if this happened in the U.S, do you think the story would be different right now?


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i don't know man.. you're reading what you want to read.. you're looking for bad or stupidity in people and even if you don't find it, you're thinking you have..
not really sure what to say about that.
 
it's stupid if you read it through your filter that everybody is being racist conspiracy theorists..

while meanwhile, seeing a picture of a single instance showing an exploded phone with no actual signs of an explosion.. with very sketchy details (like, even the people in this thread who can read the language it was originally reported in can't seem to tell the actual story as written).. virtually no proof whatsoever that this single phone has exploded.. OP registered the acct and first post was this story.. etc

and if someone questions the validity of whether or not this is an actual manufacturing defect, they're racist conspiracy theorists?

if this happened in the U.S, do you think the story would be different right now?


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i don't know man.. you're reading what you want to read.. you're looking for bad or stupidity in people and even if you don't find it, you're thinking you have..
not really sure what to say about that.

lol. Maybe you missed Juan007's gem regarding someone pouring gasoline on their phone to commit fraud.

You should probably go back through this thread and go through the logic. It does not start off with: "let me be an armchair forensic scientist, pretending like I know what I am talking about..."

It starts with "I don't trust it because it came from China"
"Ok, maybe I believe the reports from Japan, or anywhere else, but not China"
"Never trust anything coming from China"

You admitted yourself that you believe this to be a conspiracy theory involving someone who wants to damage Apple's X sales.

Not to mention the moderator deleted comments.

What do you mean there is no proof? There are pics of defective iPhones. How it really happened is anyone's guess, but your automatic denial and movement to a conspiracy theory based on the fact that it happened in Asia/China is ABSURD.

Don't try to back it up with your phony forensic science. It's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. This is as bad as the Boston Marathon Reddit thread. Armchair experts letting their bias lead to absurdity.

Here's the reasonable conclusion: "a few units were defective. Either through misuse (chargers, drops, etc.) or legitimate defects. Probably nothing to worry about until we start hearing a steady stream of reports that gets into the hundreds. I'll keep an eye on it"

It is absolutely amazing that so many people on here are espousing this conspiracy theory.
 
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lol. Maybe you missed Juan007's gem regarding someone pouring gasoline on their phone to commit fraud.

You should probably go back through this thread and go through the logic. It does not start off with: "let me be an armchair forensic scientist, pretending like I know what I am talking about..."

It starts with "I don't trust it because it came from China"
"Ok, maybe I believe the reports from Japan, or anywhere else, but not China"
"Never trust anything coming from China"
cool.. seems like you take anybody that's mentioned 'China' and lumped them all into one group of racist conspiracy theorists.. that's just great.

You admitted yourself that you believe this to be a conspiracy theory involving someone who wants to damage Apple's X sales.
what?
where?
post #77 ?

if so, maybe you should take your own advice and go re-read that.
you think my conclusion in that post was that this is a conspiracy theory?

because i felt like my point was a lot different than that.. if anything, there was a lot of finger pointing at Apple in there about conspiring to keep a situation like this out of the eye of the public..

idk, again.. you're reading what you want to read.. why ignoring most of what's being said?

What do you mean there is no proof? There are pics of defective iPhones.

either you're being dense on purpose (which i hope is the case.. because then you have a chance at un-densing and being more objective and less opinionated)... or something else.

the title of this thread is "First iPhone 8 Exploded" ... there is no "iPhones" plural.. it's one phone.. an exploding phone is entirely different than some other type of defect.. do you agree? or no?

why keep talking about swelling batteries when the topic is about a phone that exploded??

fyi, here's what i had to say about the reports of battery swelling last week:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...battery-failures.2074373/page-2#post-25156373

...which sounds not too dissimilar of what you describe a 'reasonable conclusion' later in your post..

can you understand that people might be seeing differently than you.. you seem to think this is a single issue.. others might think these are two separate issues -- one is swelling batteries.. and one is exploding batteries..
if you refuse to make this separation then any further conversation with you is going to be incredibly difficult since i'm very likely going to just keep repeating the above.


How it really happened is anyone's guess, but your automatic denial and movement to a conspiracy theory based on the fact that it happened in Asia/China is ABSURD.

again-- re-read my 'conspiracy theory' post..
i'm pretty sure i said nobody knows what happened.. in fact, that was my entire point.. we don't know..

how you're taking that then coming back to me with "you think Apple can't be at fault here.. this is the work of a shiesty Chinese person" ... is borderline ridiculous.

regarding countries-- if this happened in the U.S and got out in the public, we would have a helluvalot more info as to what the problem is.. we might actually be able to know what happened and to what degree we need to be concerned.

i think you think i'm in defense of Apple here.. like, that's one of your filters.. that i'm a fanboi or smthng..

but reality is, i want to know if there's a problem with these phones or not.. my child has an 8+.. i plan on buying an X.. if there's a chance that these things will swell.. fine.. let it swell and i'll switch it out for a new one.. there's an Apple store in my exact neighborhood.. it's not a problem.

if the things may potentially explode then that's a problem.. a big problem and demands much more concern.





phony forensic science....It's the stupidest thing I have ever heard...Armchair experts.... bias...absurdity.
if i could make any suggestion to you, i would say you should seriously tone down on worrying about who is absurd and who is stupid etc.. or at least, make sure you're including yourself in the pool of people that you're psychoanalysing over there.. because i'm not quite convinced you're exuding heaps of intelligence and logic in these posts.. or, at least, there seem to be some reading comprehension issues going on.
 
No. They were probably using a cheap knock off charger.

And so many people don't know that they shouldn't use cheaply made chargers. Third-party charges are certainly acceptable to use, as long as the state MFI or Made for iPhone. Reputable brands like Belkin and Anker. I agree that third-party charges can be problematic, which I'm not saying is the case in this specific situation.
 
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And so many people don't know that they shouldn't use cheaply made chargers. Third-party charges are certainly acceptable to use, as long as the state MFI or Made for iPhone. Reputable brands like Belkin and Anker. I agree that third-party charges can be problematic, which I'm not saying is the case in this specific situation.
Wasn’t there a scandal about this is in China a few years ago. iPhones catching fire because users were buying cheap knock off cables which were unsafe. Apple had a programme where you could trade in your third party cable for an official one.

Yes here it is

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/apple...harger-exchange-valid-uk-australia-and-canada
 
Wasn’t there a scandal about this is in China a few years ago. iPhones catching fire because users were buying cheap knock off cables which were unsafe. Apple had a programme where you could trade in your third party cable for an official one.

I don't recall. But you might be correct with that. I know Amazon last year was investigating a lot of retailers selling charging cables and bricks that were claiming were made by Apple, which ended up being counterfeit.
 
Not impossible to be a major issue, but I don't buy it. I don't think this will be anything more than an issue that happens to a handful of unfortunate consumers who likely use cheap chargers that overheat the device.

Time will tell, but I'm not afraid of my phone exploding. I have never had it get too hot and I've used a wireless charge base on it almost exclusively.
 
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Not trying to add fuel to the fire here, but I picked up a iPhone 8 yesterday. While I had it plugged in to restore/upgrade the phone to the MBP, the right side of the phone was HOT! The phone was not in a case but man was it warmer than I recall any phone being. Anyone else experienced this?
 
And so many people don't know that they shouldn't use cheaply made chargers. Third-party charges are certainly acceptable to use, as long as the state MFI or Made for iPhone. Reputable brands like Belkin and Anker. I agree that third-party charges can be problematic, which I'm not saying is the case in this specific situation.
Stop with the excuses. When it's Samsung you guys were all over them. Now that Apple is having the issue it's all excuses.

Many articles have said it was the original chargers.
 
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Not trying to add fuel to the fire here, but I picked up a iPhone 8 yesterday. While I had it plugged in to restore/upgrade the phone to the MBP, the right side of the phone was HOT! The phone was not in a case but man was it warmer than I recall any phone being. Anyone else experienced this?
I don't have the iPhone 8 but I remember last year when I first got my 7 plus and was setting it up it got really hot and I was a bit concerned as I'd never experienced this before with any of my previous iPhones. However after I finished setting it up I didn't experience it again.
 
Stop with the excuses. When it's Samsung you guys were all over them. Now that Apple is having the issue it's all excuses.

Many articles have said it was the original chargers.

Apple's few phones with a problem do not even get close to what happened to Samsung devices.

You can see a difference can't you?

Looks like you are going out of YOUR way to trash Apple. If they have a problem they will take care of it but comparing them to what happened at Samsung, this early, well, no excuse needed!
 
Apple's few phones with a problem do not even get close to what happened to Samsung devices.

You can see a difference can't you?

Looks like you are going out of YOUR way to trash Apple. If they have a problem they will take care of it but comparing them to what happened at Samsung, this early, well, no excuse needed!

When iPhones start getting banned from airlines, then I'll start worrying. :D
 
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