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First Metroid Prime 3 review...ZOMG.

I played Metroid Prime 1 and pretty much was upset. This was Nothing like Super Metroid, which was possibly the greatest game for SNES. Yes, ever better than Zelda 3.
 
iBunny said:
I played Metroid Prime 1 and pretty much was upset. This was Nothing like Super Metroid, which was possibly the greatest game for SNES. Yes, ever better than Zelda 3.
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How much of Prime 1 did you play? They're extremely similar; you explore vast environments, friendless and alone, finding items that can then enable you to reach new areas, where you can find even better items, that let you reach even more new areas, with bosses in between.

Prime 1 is pretty near perfection in game form :p

And Super Metroid is awesome; I downloaded it off the Virtual Console and am playing through it now. A LOT of similarities between it and Prime.
 
GFLPraxis said:
How much of Prime 1 did you play? They're extremely similar; you explore vast environments, friendless and alone, finding items that can then enable you to reach new areas, where you can find even better items, that let you reach even more new areas, with bosses in between.

Prime 1 is pretty near perfection in game form :p

And Super Metroid is awesome; I downloaded it off the Virtual Console and am playing through it now. A LOT of similarities between it and Prime.
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Don't miss the original NES Metroid either. There's a very good reason why it spawned a million sequels over the past 20+ years.
 
I've always been told that Prime 1 is just some kind of 3D reincarnation of Super Metroid.
 
iBunny said:
I played Metroid Prime 1 and pretty much was upset. This was Nothing like Super Metroid, which was possibly the greatest game for SNES. Yes, ever better than Zelda 3.
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ummm, upset? Prime is the perfect recreation of metroid style gameplay in 3d; just as Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 were for their respective franchises. Did either of those game "upset" you because they weren't the same as A Link to the Past and Mario World? Second, if you find it different from Super Metroid (obviously its going to be since its 3d), SO WHAT!? Is it not possible to enjoy the game for what it is instead of saying you don't like it because it's not Super Metroid? Look, your free to not like the game for what it is, but you need to give it a chance on its own merits.
 
motulist said:
Don't miss the original NES Metroid either. There's a very good reason why it spawned a million sequels over the past 20+ years.
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I own the original Metroid on the NES, but I never got anywhere (probably because of the lack of map and save points).

And I'd hardly consider 5 games to be a million sequels ;) (Metroid 2, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Prime 1 and 2). Wonder why Metroid disappeared during the N64 era?
 
GFLPraxis said:
And I'd hardly consider 5 games to be a million sequels ;) (Metroid 2, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Prime 1 and 2). Wonder why Metroid disappeared during the N64 era?
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You forgot Zero Mission, Hunters (well, do we really need to count that?), and Pinball. Hehe. I think Gametrailer's retrospective had something to say about the lack of a Metroid 64.
 
GFLPraxis said:
And I'd hardly consider 5 games to be a million sequels ;) (Metroid 2, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Prime 1 and 2).
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According to wikipedia, here's the full list of metroid games. But to be fair, some are cheap capitalizations on the popularity of the metroid brand.

Metroid (1986)
Metroid II: Return of Samus (1991)
Super Metroid (1994)
Metroid Fusion (2002)
Metroid Prime (2002)
Metroid: Zero Mission (2004)
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (2004)
Metroid Prime Pinball (2005)
Metroid Prime: Hunters (2006)
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (2007)
 
GFLPraxis said:
I own the original Metroid on the NES, but I never got anywhere (probably because of the lack of map and save points).
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I know what you mean; plus the only way to gather health is to keep killing enemies forever, or get an energy tank(assuming you haven't gotten all of them already). It is seriously hard. I just recently played through it and beat it for the first time on GBA. You can easily find maps on google, and make sure you save one energy tank to get until right when your ready to fight mother brain. If you die, make sure you kept the password from before you got the last energy tank so you can try again.
 
raggedjimmi said:
I'd be all for that if it wasn't piracy/illegal. Are you supporting it?
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If you own the cartridge then it's not piracy. It's the same as taking a CD you own and putting the songs on your iPod.

And if it's a game that you couldn't otherwise purchase legally then it is likewise not piracy.

(although a very small minority would disagree with both of those definitions)
 
motulist said:
If you own the cartridge then it's not piracy. It's the same as taking a CD you own and putting the songs on your iPod.

And if it's a game that you couldn't otherwise purchase legally then it is likewise not piracy.

(although a very small minority would disagree with both of those definitions)
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Very stupid definitions.

Metroid is on eBay, there's a remake on the GBA, it's in shops, it's on the VC. Sorry that your excuse doesn't fly.

Owning the cartridge isn't an excuse either.

People Making Nintendo Emulators and Nintendo ROMs are Helping Publishers by Making Old Games Available that are No Longer Being Sold by the Copyright Owner. This Does Not Hurt Anyone and Allows Gamers to Play Old Favorites. What's the Problem?

The problem is that it's illegal. Copyrights and trademarks of games are corporate assets. If these vintage titles are available far and wide, it undermines the value of this intellectual property and adversely affects the right owner. In addition, the assumption that the games involved are vintage or nostalgia games is incorrect. Nintendo is famous for bringing back to life its popular characters for its newer systems, for example, Mario and Donkey Kong have enjoyed their adventures on all Nintendo platforms, going from coin-op machines to our latest hardware platforms. As a copyright owner, and creator of such famous characters, only Nintendo has the right to benefit from such valuable assets.
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raggedjimmi said:
Very stupid definitions.

Metroid is on eBay, there's a remake on the GBA, it's in shops, it's on the VC. Sorry that your excuse doesn't fly.

Owning the cartridge isn't an excuse either.
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You're wrong. Nintendo can put in their documentation that breathing is illegal, that doesn't make it so. Many of the major music labels claim that ripping CDs to your computer or iPod is illegal. Ripping your DVDs to your hard disk is truly illegal, as in it is expressly on the books as being against the law, but that doesn't make it piracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_ripping#Legal_problems_and_status

I defy you to present one single legitimate and significant way that playing a console game from a cartridge you own on your computer, is different than playing songs from a CD you own on your iPod.
 
Ok, the last thing we need here is another debate on the legality of emulators and roms. (how many thousands of those have we had in the past?) This thread is about Metroid Prime 3, lets keep it that way.
 
motulist said:
You're wrong. Nintendo can put in their documentation that breathing is illegal, that doesn't make it so. Many of the major music labels claim that ripping CDs to your computer or iPod is illegal. Ripping your DVDs to your hard disk is truly illegal, as in it is expressly on the books as being against the law, but that doesn't make it piracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_ripping#Legal_problems_and_status

I defy you to present one single legitimate and significant way that playing a console game from a cartridge you own on your computer, is different than playing songs from a CD you own on your iPod.
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I'ts not illegal to rip CD's that's why it's in iTunes. Unless there's a hidden pref setting with a ¨rip Gamecube disc¨ tab.
Breaking DVD encryption is illegal, which is why Mac The Ripper is a little more illegal than Mediafork (or so the forums say).
 
You evaded responding to my arguments. And it's just as well, as plinkoman said, this is a well worn debate that doesn't need to be rehashed.
 
motulist said:
If you own the cartridge then it's not piracy. It's the same as taking a CD you own and putting the songs on your iPod.

And if it's a game that you couldn't otherwise purchase legally then it is likewise not piracy.

(although a very small minority would disagree with both of those definitions)
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Legally, actually, you are allowed to back up your own media (you can rip your own CD) but it is illegal to transfer that backup to others.

It's legal to rip your own rom, but it's illegal (technically) to DOWNLOAD a rom, even of one you own, because it's not your copy.

So downloading roms is legally, well, illegal. Only ripping them yourself is legal. (for reference, I rip most of my own GBA roms using a Flash2Advance cable).

Nintendo's right that the downloading of roms is illegal, but they also imply that ripping devices are illegal due to their nature, and they're not because the devices used for ripping are also used for homebrew. Nintendo's page is not 100% correct as to the legal interpretation.

Still, Jimmi, it's rude to accuse people of supporting piracy, especially when they're just downloading games they own. It's fine to correct them on the legal status, but don't call them a pirate.

And considering that downloading a rom you own is an illegal technicality with no penalty or court precedent, I don't know if anyone cares...let's just drop the topic.
 
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