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Other First phone "ever"with 10 bit HDR DV @59Mbps 4.2.0... am I missing something?
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What’s this ten bit two bit thing. All I care about getting the biggest battery and biggest screen. Camera is just the icing to take nice car pics in the sunset.
Source, please? The iPhone 12 intro specifically stated that they were using “custom Apple sensors”.
https://9to5mac.com/2019/08/20/triple-lens-cameras/ most of the 12 series is using last year ones. Also judging by this analogy, lg has the first chance in making it for the pro max...
What most of users don't understand is that Sony only makes the sensor. That sensor need optics, chips and software to be driven. Here's where LG Innotek comes in action.
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I could post more, but I could not find any positive posts by the OP mentioning Apple products. No problem that he enjoys his LG phone, but they feel the need to post to a Mac rumors forum, I think we know the answer.
Whilst not the main consideration in my upgrading to a 12 Pro, I'm looking forward on seeing how the video capture and subsequent playback via Apple TV 4K & my DV capable Sony TV goes.
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Its still Dolby Vision even if not full 12 bit. I watch 10 bit Dolby Vision all the time on my LG oled. Much better than normal 10bit HDR10
It’s a great addition to video recording on the iPhone and I can’t wait to see stuff I capture in full 10 bit Dolby Vision glory !!!
Anyone bashing this needs to get a life, a few years ago you’d need a massive pro camera to record this kind of footage and now your phone can do it.....
It’s a great addition to video recording on the iPhone and I can’t wait to see stuff I capture in full 10 bit Dolby Vision glory !!!
Anyone bashing this needs to get a life, a few years ago you’d need a massive pro camera to record this kind of footage and now your phone can do it.....
Reason why iPhone 12 will shoot 10bit with "only" 700mil instead of 1bil colors is the ProRes 422 HEVC 10bit codec which uses chroma subsampling.
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Not really, few years ago you also needed just a phone that could take 10bit HDR video. This will be no different except that it has Dolby Vision licensing. Mobile stuff and pro stuff is whole another ball game, don't confuse it with proper movie on set workflow which phones will never ever replace or even replicate.
OK basically what iPhone will do here is record 10bit ProRes 422 and then apply DV Profile 5 to it. The only way to view it on any other device other than iPhone you used to record it is to stream it either via Apple TV or AirDrop 2. You will not be able to extract the native file with DVp5 metadata without a hack.
Wait, you’re saying if I shoot video on the iPhone 12, and I take the hevc file off the phone and put it on a hdd, when I play back on a tv it won’t be Dolby vision or even HDR?? Wow, that would be real disappointing and kind of what’s the point if it’s only Dolby vision when played back on the iPhone???
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OK basically what iPhone will do here is record 10bit ProRes 422 and then apply DV Profile 5 to it. The only way to view it on any other device other than iPhone you used to record it is to stream it either via Apple TV or AirDrop 2. You will not be able to extract the native file with DVp5 metadata without a hack.
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This 4:2:2 raises another question. What would be the bitrate? 1Gbps? 0.5? These are the bare minimum...
OK basically what iPhone will do here is record 10bit ProRes 422 and then apply DV Profile 5 to it. The only way to view it on any other device other than iPhone you used to record it is to stream it either via Apple TV or AirDrop 2. You will not be able to extract the native file with DVp5 metadata without a hack.
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This 4:2:2 raises another question. What would be the bitrate? 1Gbps? 0.5? These are the bare minimum...
I’ll wager I’ve spent more years in hardware and software R&D than you have.
First you said it was an LG sensor. Now, you say it is a Sony sensor. Apple says it is a “custom Apple sensor”. I suspect they know more about it than some random kid posting on the Internet.
And now you’re claiming that LG developed the camera software, too?
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Presumably this would also include the video backed up to iCloud Photo Library from the iPhone it was shot on would also lose DV? I tend to view photos on my TV using Apple TV 4K and browsing my library on the ATV itself, rather than AirPlaying from my iPhone to ATV.
Not without a hack, you need to extract all the DV metadata and then recompile it into a container. Ripping DV BluRays has been a challenge for a very long time, it works now but for a very long time it wasn't possible.
If you take out the file off your iPhone you will get a 10bit HEVC file without DV curve.
Oh well, this was rather disappointing. Somehow I knew if phone was able to record in ProRes they would advertise that all over the place but I really did want to believe 
Format remains HEVC but with 10bit output. Nothing fancy and nothing that iPhone 11 can't do, it sure can but they won't port the feature. iPhone 11 already stacks 10bit images when shooting video but outputs it to 8bit only.
Format remains HEVC but with 10bit output. Nothing fancy and nothing that iPhone 11 can't do, it sure can but they won't port the feature. iPhone 11 already stacks 10bit images when shooting video but outputs it to 8bit only.
Ok, guys! It seems that we need to wait and see what this is all about. We certainly miss some information. I've read that an 300 MHz dedicated chip can do 10 bit HDR 4.2.2, therefore this has nothing to do with processing power. It seems that it has to do more with the sensor, BUS data transfer rate between sensor, cpu, ram, storage and licensing of codecs...
To me it kind of seems similar to the HDR photos, when you view them on your phone it has all the dynamic range but not when you transfer them off device. I guess this will be the same, the video quality will still be better though right, due to the better sensors etc
I have a question about storage space of filming in HDR DV.
What storage size would you suggest to order if you are planning on filming some videos, not a lot and not all, in DV HDR 10Bit 30fps (12 Mini)? 128GB, which is normally more than enough for me, or 256GB just because of filming short vids in HDR DV from time to time? I wouldn't use it very often, don't do that much filming on my phone, but from time to time certainly.
Thx.
What storage size would you suggest to order if you are planning on filming some videos, not a lot and not all, in DV HDR 10Bit 30fps (12 Mini)? 128GB, which is normally more than enough for me, or 256GB just because of filming short vids in HDR DV from time to time? I wouldn't use it very often, don't do that much filming on my phone, but from time to time certainly.
Thx.
You are more than fine even with 64GB unless you go crazy with other apps. This should not take more space than what current video does.