Fix for broken HTTPS / TLS / Certificates in Leopard-Webkit

[Macbookprodude]

i plan to install Ubuntu or Lubuntu remix on my PB G4, at least with that I can somewhat use my machine more comfortably. Leopard was nice and I like the idea of the ones trying to get Snow Leopard to work, but I think it’s time for all of us to end MAC OS X on PowerPC and go Linux or BSD. That will be our future, unless Leopard can be reversed engineered.

 

[Amethyst1]

Leopard can be reversed engineered.

What would that give us?

 

[Macbookprodude]

What would that give us?

It’s just a thought - a more modern platform with updated security and other things. As I said, it was only a thought if we could reverse engineer Leopard.

 

[Amethyst1]

It’s just a thought - a more modern platform with updated security and other things.

This rather sounds like getting a more modern version of OS X running on PPC. Not gonna happen unless we get access to the full source code and even then it would be a massive endeavour.

 

[Imixmuan]

I have decided to destroy my PB G4 out of anger due to this app.. I have come to the concliusion that PPC is worthless, garbage that just doesn't work anymore for internet. It was a waste of 80 dollars, but I will never go back to PPC ever again after this.

We've heard this all before. The definition of insanity is to repeat the same mistakes over and over again, and expect a different outcome. Here is what I did with a PowerPC G4 Powerbook this am on the internet:

I watched Leeds vs Fulham highlights in tenfivetube.

I casually surfed the web. Emphasis on casual. I went to low resource news sites like text.npr.org, and lite.cnn.com and read some news.

I listened to some music and watched some videos I downloaded from back in the day (2009).

I didn't expect my Powerbook G4 to be a Macbook or Macbook Pro. I treated my aging PowerPC machine with the respect and dignity it deserves. I enjoyed the nostalgic feeling I got hitting these old keys. Is it just me or do they just feel....better?

The bonus of destroying your PB G4 is that you won't ever have to come back here and experience the frustration you feel currently.

 

[retta283]

I enjoyed the nostalgic feeling I got hitting these old keys. Is it just me or do they just feel....better?

You're not alone on this one. I love the Aluminum PBG4 and MBP keyboard. It's much much better than the unibody keyboard to me. I wish I could find a 2007-2008 MBP with fixed GPU so I could run a much newer OS while keeping this classic design. My 2006 17" on Mavericks is overall pretty good though, but it would definitely be nice.

 

[Macbookprodude]

We've heard this all before. The definition of insanity is to repeat the same mistakes over and over again, and expect a different outcome. Here is what I did with a PowerPC G4 Powerbook this am on the internet:

I watched Leeds vs Fulham highlights in tenfivetube.

I casually surfed the web. Emphasis on casual. I went to low resource news sites like text.npr.org, and lite.cnn.com and read some news.

I listened to some music and watched some videos I downloaded from back in the day (2009).

I didn't expect my Powerbook G4 to be a Macbook or Macbook Pro. I treated my aging PowerPC machine with the respect and dignity it deserves. I enjoyed the nostalgic feeling I got hitting these old keys. Is it just me or do they just feel....better?

The bonus of destroying your PB G4 is that you won't ever have to come back here and experience the frustration you feel currently.

Relax, my Tiranium 1Ghz PB G4 is fine, I just won’t use LWK anymore because squidworth won’t work.. but who needz Wikipedia !

 

[wicknix]

I've actually tried this on my G5 running Leopard, and I can't find any evidence it's working. "Safari can’t connect to the proxy server" isn't much of a useful error message but it's all I've got.

Sounds like you may have forgetten to "trust" the certificate, or have the wrong proxy setting. They should look like this:

It's also possible squid didn't start. Check activity monitor. If you are trying to connect a PPC to another "newer" machine running squid, you need to copy the certificate from that machine to your PPC, import it, trust it, then switch the proxy IP to that machines IP port 3128. PPC Leopard support is still experimental, but it is known to work for some. @Wowfunhappy and i both recommend going the route of using anothing machine to run squid, and keep the load off the PPC machine.

watched Leeds vs Fulham highlights in tenfivetube.

Glad you still find TFT useful. Just curious why you still use the older v3 when v5 has been out for awhile now with tons more features. Unless of course you just prefer v3 for its simplicity.

Cheers

 

[Macbookprodude]

We've heard this all before. The definition of insanity is to repeat the same mistakes over and over again, and expect a different outcome. Here is what I did with a PowerPC G4 Powerbook this am on the internet:

I watched Leeds vs Fulham highlights in tenfivetube.

I casually surfed the web. Emphasis on casual. I went to low resource news sites like text.npr.org, and lite.cnn.com and read some news.

I listened to some music and watched some videos I downloaded from back in the day (2009).

I didn't expect my Powerbook G4 to be a Macbook or Macbook Pro. I treated my aging PowerPC machine with the respect and dignity it deserves. I enjoyed the nostalgic feeling I got hitting these old keys. Is it just me or do they just feel....better?

The bonus of destroying your PB G4 is that you won't ever have to come back here and experience the frustration you feel currently.

But one thing your PB aluminum dues not have is L3 cache, though I am assuming you are using the 7447a chip.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

I've actually tried this on my G5 running Leopard, and I can't find any evidence it's working. "Safari can’t connect to the proxy server" isn't much of a useful error message but it's all I've got.

No, that is useful, actually! So (1) the installer worked, and (2) you've enabled the proxy in System Preferences, but the Mac can't connect to the proxy server. Most likely because the proxy isn't running for some reason.

What happens if you run this in the terminal? /Library/Squid/squid -d 0

This will (attempt to) start Squid manually, and output debug messages to the Terminal, which will hopefully give a clue as to why it didn't start in the first place.

 

[Macbookprodude]

We've heard this all before. The definition of insanity is to repeat the same mistakes over and over again, and expect a different outcome. Here is what I did with a PowerPC G4 Powerbook this am on the internet:

I watched Leeds vs Fulham highlights in tenfivetube.

I casually surfed the web. Emphasis on casual. I went to low resource news sites like text.npr.org, and lite.cnn.com and read some news.

I listened to some music and watched some videos I downloaded from back in the day (2009).

I didn't expect my Powerbook G4 to be a Macbook or Macbook Pro. I treated my aging PowerPC machine with the respect and dignity it deserves. I enjoyed the nostalgic feeling I got hitting these old keys. Is it just me or do they just feel....better?

The bonus of destroying your PB G4 is that you won't ever have to come back here and experience the frustration you feel currently.

how does one optimize iceweasel to speed up loading macrumors or eBay ? On my PB G4 titanium 1Ghz I get a lot of beach balls and it has an M2 sata SSD ? I know SSD doesn’t make web pages load faster, but what could I do to speed it up ?

 

[Wowfunhappy]

@Macbookprodude Could you please move the off-topic discussion to a separate thread? This thread is for https proxy servers. Thank you!

 

[Macbookprodude]

Sounds like you may have forgetten to "trust" the certificate, or have the wrong proxy setting. They should look like this:
View attachment 1746608
It's also possible squid didn't start. Check activity monitor. If you are trying to connect a PPC to another "newer" machine running squid, you need to copy the certificate from that machine to your PPC, import it, trust it, then switch the IP to that machines IP port 3128. PPC Leopard support is still experimental, but it is known to work for some. @Wowfunhappy and i both recommend going the route of using anothing machine to run squid, and keep the load off the PPC machine.


Glad you still find TFT useful. Just curious why you still use the older v3 when v5 has been out for awhile now with tons more features. Unless of course you just prefer v3 for its simplicity.

Cheers

I can answer this - version 5 seems much slower than 3 for some reason, since all G4’s can only view videos at 360 at least - maybe 480p, version 5 seems to drop a lot of frames. But under Lununtu remix, YouTube runs flawless.

 

[repairedCheese]

No, that is useful, actually! So (1) the installer worked, and (2) the proxy is enabled in System Preferences. But the Mac can't connect to the proxy, most likely because it isn't running for some reason.

What happens if you run this in the terminal? /Library/Squid/squid -d 0 This should start Squid manually, and output debug messages (which will hopefully give a clue as to why it didn't start in the first place).

Oh hey that did it! Thanks! Wikipedia is working and everything!

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Oh hey that did it! Thanks! Wikipedia is working and everything!

...that's interesting, I was actually expecting Squid to crash (but hopefully with a useful error message). If it can be started manually, why didn't the LaunchAgent start it automatically?

What's the output of launchctl list | grep squid?

 

[repairedCheese]

Oh, hey, that's interesting, I was actually expecting Squid to crash (but hopefully with a useful error message). So if it can be started manually, why didn't the LaunchAgent start it automatically?

What's the output of launchctl list | grep squid?

37587 - 0x1105e0.squid
37585 - 0x1103c0.squid

Running it did give me quite a few errors, despite running.

2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| Service Name: squid
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_ACCESS_DENIED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_ACCESS_DENIED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_CACHE_ACCESS_DENIED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_CACHE_ACCESS_DENIED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_CACHE_MGR_ACCESS_DENIED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_CACHE_MGR_ACCESS_DENIED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FORWARDING_DENIED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FORWARDING_DENIED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_NO_RELAY': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_NO_RELAY
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_READ_TIMEOUT': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_READ_TIMEOUT
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_LIFETIME_EXP': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_LIFETIME_EXP
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_READ_ERROR': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_READ_ERROR
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_WRITE_ERROR': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_WRITE_ERROR
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_CONNECT_FAIL': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_CONNECT_FAIL
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_SECURE_CONNECT_FAIL': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_SECURE_CONNECT_FAIL
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_SOCKET_FAILURE': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_SOCKET_FAILURE
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_DNS_FAIL': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_DNS_FAIL
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_URN_RESOLVE': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_URN_RESOLVE
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_ONLY_IF_CACHED_MISS': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_ONLY_IF_CACHED_MISS
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_TOO_BIG': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_TOO_BIG
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_INVALID_RESP': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_INVALID_RESP
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_UNSUP_HTTPVERSION': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_UNSUP_HTTPVERSION
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_INVALID_REQ': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_INVALID_REQ
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_UNSUP_REQ': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_UNSUP_REQ
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_INVALID_URL': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_INVALID_URL
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_PRECONDITION_FAILED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_PRECONDITION_FAILED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_CONFLICT_HOST': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_CONFLICT_HOST
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_DISABLED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_DISABLED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_UNAVAILABLE': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_UNAVAILABLE
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_FAILURE': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_FAILURE
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_PUT_ERROR': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_PUT_ERROR
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_NOT_FOUND': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_NOT_FOUND
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_FORBIDDEN': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_FORBIDDEN
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_PUT_CREATED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_PUT_CREATED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_FTP_PUT_MODIFIED': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_FTP_PUT_MODIFIED
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_ESI': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_ESI
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_ICAP_FAILURE': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_ICAP_FAILURE
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_GATEWAY_FAILURE': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_GATEWAY_FAILURE
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_DIR_LISTING': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_DIR_LISTING
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_SHUTTING_DOWN': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_SHUTTING_DOWN
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/ERR_PROTOCOL_UNKNOWN': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file ERR_PROTOCOL_UNKNOWN
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| ERROR: loading file '/Library/Squid/errors/templates/error-details.txt': (2) No such file or directory
2021/03/20 15:20:32 kid1| WARNING: failed to find or read error text file error-details.txt

But it's hard to argue with the results.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Running it did give me quite a few errors, despite running.

Thanks—those errors are normal and always show up, so nothing helpful there. But...

37587 - 0x1105e0.squid
37585 - 0x1103c0.squid

Now that makes it look like the LaunchAgent never got installed, somehow. Does the file ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.wowfunhappy.squid.plist exist?

But it's hard to argue with the results.

Yep, I'm just trying to make it so you don't have to manually start the proxy each time you reboot. It should run invisibly in the background and "just work".

 

[repairedCheese]

@Wowfunhappy and i both recommend going the route of using anothing machine to run squid, and keep the load off the PPC machine.

I think I can see why, it's a very demanding piece of software, and not the most stable on PowePC Mac.

Now that makes it look like the LaunchAgent never got installed, somehow. Does the file ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.wowfunhappy.squid.plist exist?

It does, and I wish I knew more about this stuff.

 

[Imixmuan]

Glad you still find TFT useful. Just curious why you still use the older v3 when v5 has been out for awhile now with tons more features. Unless of course you just prefer v3 for its simplicity.

Cheers

Yes I prefer the simplicity of v3 over the Flock based TFT, but that is just me. I use tenfivetube for one purpose only, and that's to watch 360p youtube, as long as v3 works as well as it does, I will keep using it.

 

[Imixmuan]

But one thing your PB aluminum dues not have is L3 cache, though I am assuming you are using the 7447a chip.

Yeah, no L3 cache, it's the 1.67 ghz so yes, 7447a chip. Only thing that could make this faster would be a SSD, which I am now seriously contemplating. I might be crack smoking but the newest Tenfourfox FPR 31 feels...ever so slightly faster to me. Probably just my brain making it up.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

It does

🙄

Sigh. I really hate launchd sometimes.

Is there by any chance a message in the console (search for it) that reads:
launchctl: Dubious ownership on file (skipping): /Library/LaunchAgents/com.wowfunhappy.squid.plist

And, what is the output of: ls -l /Library/LaunchAgents/?

Edit: to be clear, that eyeroll was directed at launchd.

 

[repairedCheese]

There are no errors even remotely related to launchctl in that mess, unfortunately. And as for output:

total 56
-rwxr-xr-x@ 1 root wheel 456 Sep 3 2009 com.bjango.istatlocal.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 696 Jun 19 2008 com.hp.launchurlagent.plist
-rwxr--r-- 1 root wheel 1375 Jan 26 2020 com.redstonesoftware.VineServer.plist
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 722 Feb 11 2016 com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 786 Feb 11 2016 com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 502 Mar 6 12:22 com.wowfunhappy.squid.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 949 Jan 16 2020 org.glimmerblocker.updater.plist

The thing of it is, this software, even when it's working, really seems to like crashing a lot, which is an absolute shame. Yes, I know, it was recommended that it be run on another device, but it was worth a shot. I just wish it crashed cleanly, and didn't try to take up as much of the cpu as possible.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

The thing of it is, this software, even when it's working, really seems to like crashing a lot, which is an absolute shame.

Oh. Well that would explain why it wasn't running initially (although I would have thought the job would still show up in launchctl list).

@wicknix Was Squid actually stable for you in PPC Leopard? It was crashing for me on Intel Leopard too (and Intel Tiger), which is why I set the installer to require 10.6 minimum on Intel. But I figured MacPorts's Leopard toolchain was probably better tested on PPC, for obvious reasons.

 

[repairedCheese]

Oh. Well that would explain why it wasn't running initially (although I would have thought the job would still show up in launchctl list).

@wicknix Was Squid actually stable for you in PPC Leopard? It was crashing for me on Intel Leopard too (and Intel Tiger), which is why I set the installer to require 10.6 minimum on Intel. But I figured MacPorts's Leopard toolchain was probably better tested on PPC.

The command does start it, and it works for a bit, but eventually it seems to get stuck while trying to max the cpu. It doesn't seem to get started automatically, and given the way it's unstable, that's probably a good thing at the moment.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

It doesn't seem to get started automatically

Or, it does get started automatically, but crashes quickly enough that launchd kills the job. I saw this happen on Intel Leopard (and Intel Tiger).